How do you guys do stairs?

catzeye21138 · 02-13-2013, 07:43 PM

I play 1 hand 3 fingers on levels <30 and spread on everything else.

Rolls? Good.
Streams? Good.
Bursts? Awesome.
Staircases? No way in hell.

Any advice? Ideally I'd like good examples of slower staircases that I could practice on.

What I'm talking about:

It's keeping me from FCing a lot of songs, and the closest I can get right now is keymashing miserably.

edit: An example of stairs I can't do is MASCARADA under Dance 2. It's level 46. Everything else is a piece of cake but 'dem stairs.

icontrolyourworld · 02-13-2013, 07:46 PM

Binary Fission can answer this best since he's dah best 1 hander eva

From a regular guy like me, switch to spread, it makes everything easy

**Fluvs** · 02-13-2013, 07:47 PM

I love staircases

**Kibblre** · 02-13-2013, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icontrolyourworld

From a regular guy like me, switch to spread, it makes everything easy

Quote:

Originally Posted by catzeye21138

and spread on everything else.

I can't think of any tips that could help other than to practice songs with patterns like that. You'll eventually get more comfortable hitting the pattern.

.Rarity · 02-13-2013, 07:49 PM

If you want a really simplified answer...

1) Just use spread, staircases will be nothing.
2) Should you be playing one hand three fingers, use the middle finger to hit the up/downs and the other two for left/right respectively. Although this could be a trouble when it's at a faster speed.
3) Try to emulate it with two of your most strongest/well-coordinated fingers, good luck.

I'm just gonna let another better one-hander to have a say in this, though...

**PaperclipGames** · 02-13-2013, 07:55 PM

I tend to read staircases as "triplets" (212 // 343 // 212 etc.) otherwise I tend to drop boos. This is primarily because the pattern basically consists of 6 notes while they are (usually) 16ths instead of 12ths or 24ths. So I try to think of them as alternating one handed triplets.

That probably won't help at all, though, but this is just my two cents.

**Razor** · 02-13-2013, 08:10 PM

asklksa

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MinaciousGrace · 02-13-2013, 08:32 PM

stairmasters bro

Xx{Midnight}xX · 02-13-2013, 08:35 PM

**xVaLoRx** · 02-13-2013, 08:43 PM

Am I the only person who immediately thought about this?

**SKG_Scintill** · 02-13-2013, 08:47 PM

By pausing balls

ddr_f4n · 02-13-2013, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xVaLoRx

Am I the only person who immediately thought about this?

It keeps happening

**Reincarnate** · 02-13-2013, 08:48 PM

one finger

true skill

MinaciousGrace · 02-13-2013, 08:52 PM

do u bind asdf and just drag your finger back and forth

**alloyus** · 02-13-2013, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Rarity

If you want a really simplified answer...

1) Just use spread, staircases will be nothing.
2) Should you be playing one hand three fingers, use the middle finger to hit the up/downs and the other two for left/right respectively. Although this could be a trouble when it's at a faster speed.
3) Try to emulate it with two of your most strongest/well-coordinated fingers, good luck.

I'm just gonna let another better one-hander to have a say in this, though...

Number two's a winner. slide down the up/down arrows on the wat to the left and it makes it easier

**TC_Halogen** · 02-13-2013, 09:04 PM

When it comes to staircases that occur for longer than seven notes, you'll have an accenting point. 16th notes staircases would be accented on the first note of every six-note sequence, because you would be repeating the same tap over and over again. In the image you showed:

The left arrow repeats every beat and a half. The accent point should always be the first arrow you start at -- if you start on a right arrow, you're going to want to accent the right arrow repeatedly. For MASCARADA, the staircases are relatively easy to hold rhythm on, because the accenting point is every single beat. All you have to do is make sure you keep even intervals in between your steps that aren't accented. This is mostly a rhythmic guide -- doing staircases on one-hand involves a lot of discipline because it is -extremely- tempting to slide. Practice the motion of a staircase at a slower level so that you slide at all; I find it most comfortable to do a 1234321 one-handed using index-middle-index-ring-index-middle-index (etc).

**JohnRedWolf87** · 02-13-2013, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddr_f4n

It keeps happening

I warned you about stairs bro.

**SC_coolguy44** · 02-13-2013, 09:33 PM

I use spread and look at it like a slower version of a roll.

**DossarLX ODI** · 02-13-2013, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaperclipGames

I tend to read staircases as "triplets" (212 // 343 // 212 etc.) otherwise I tend to drop boos. This is primarily because the pattern basically consists of 6 notes while they are (usually) 16ths instead of 12ths or 24ths. So I try to think of them as alternating one handed triplets.

That probably won't help at all, though, but this is just my two cents.

I picture them as "24ths" too in terms of how I hit them.

**Garquillex** · 02-13-2013, 10:09 PM

Is anyone else not able to do staircases on the keyboard unless they're playing to a chart?

02-13-2013, 07:43 PM	#1
catzeye21138 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: On an island way out in the sea Age: 32 Posts: 164	How do you guys do stairs? I play 1 hand 3 fingers on levels <30 and spread on everything else. Rolls? Good. Streams? Good. Bursts? Awesome. Staircases? No way in hell. Any advice? Ideally I'd like good examples of slower staircases that I could practice on. What I'm talking about: It's keeping me from FCing a lot of songs, and the closest I can get right now is keymashing miserably. edit: An example of stairs I can't do is MASCARADA under Dance 2. It's level 46. Everything else is a piece of cake but 'dem stairs. __________________ 2nd Place in D2 in ScarletSky's Tournament 3rd Place in the 5th Official FFR Photo Scavenger Hunt 2nd Place LB FFR Multiplayer Tourny '13 Last edited by catzeye21138; 02-13-2013 at 07:46 PM..

02-13-2013, 07:46 PM	#2
icontrolyourworld Enjoy life! Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 4,192	Re: How do you guys do stairs? Binary Fission can answer this best since he's dah best 1 hander eva From a regular guy like me, switch to spread, it makes everything easy

02-13-2013, 07:47 PM	#3
Fluvs FFR Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 33 Posts: 674	Re: How do you guys do stairs? I love staircases __________________

02-13-2013, 07:49 PM	#5
.Rarity FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oahu Age: 30 Posts: 509	Re: How do you guys do stairs? If you want a really simplified answer... 1) Just use spread, staircases will be nothing. 2) Should you be playing one hand three fingers, use the middle finger to hit the up/downs and the other two for left/right respectively. Although this could be a trouble when it's at a faster speed. 3) Try to emulate it with two of your most strongest/well-coordinated fingers, good luck. I'm just gonna let another better one-hander to have a say in this, though... __________________

02-13-2013, 07:55 PM	#6
PaperclipGames Mrow~ Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Age: 33 Posts: 648	Re: How do you guys do stairs? I tend to read staircases as "triplets" (212 // 343 // 212 etc.) otherwise I tend to drop boos. This is primarily because the pattern basically consists of 6 notes while they are (usually) 16ths instead of 12ths or 24ths. So I try to think of them as alternating one handed triplets. That probably won't help at all, though, but this is just my two cents. __________________ 948 AAAs \| 1461 FCs \| 549 TPs \| 7 FMO AAAs Best AAAs: Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star (69), Nous (69), Pure Ruby (68), Heavenly Spores (68), Ambient Angels (66), Within Life (66), Defection (66) Southern Cross (65)

02-13-2013, 08:32 PM	#8
MinaciousGrace FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: nima Posts: 4,278	Re: How do you guys do stairs? stairmasters bro

02-13-2013, 08:35 PM	#9
Xx{Midnight}xX FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 8,548	Re: How do you guys do stairs?

02-13-2013, 08:43 PM	#10
xVaLoRx MYFUCKINGSOUND Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NJ Age: 30 Posts: 1,427	Re: How do you guys do stairs? Am I the only person who immediately thought about this? __________________

02-13-2013, 08:48 PM	#13
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: How do you guys do stairs? one finger true skill

02-13-2013, 08:52 PM	#14
MinaciousGrace FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: nima Posts: 4,278	Re: How do you guys do stairs? do u bind asdf and just drag your finger back and forth

02-13-2013, 09:04 PM	#16
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 34 Posts: 19,376	Re: How do you guys do stairs? When it comes to staircases that occur for longer than seven notes, you'll have an accenting point. 16th notes staircases would be accented on the first note of every six-note sequence, because you would be repeating the same tap over and over again. In the image you showed: The left arrow repeats every beat and a half. The accent point should always be the first arrow you start at -- if you start on a right arrow, you're going to want to accent the right arrow repeatedly. For MASCARADA, the staircases are relatively easy to hold rhythm on, because the accenting point is every single beat. All you have to do is make sure you keep even intervals in between your steps that aren't accented. This is mostly a rhythmic guide -- doing staircases on one-hand involves a lot of discipline because it is -extremely- tempting to slide. Practice the motion of a staircase at a slower level so that you slide at all; I find it most comfortable to do a 1234321 one-handed using index-middle-index-ring-index-middle-index (etc).

02-13-2013, 09:33 PM	#18
SC_coolguy44 Harmonoize Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In a house Age: 34 Posts: 1,041	Re: How do you guys do stairs? I use spread and look at it like a slower version of a roll.

02-13-2013, 10:09 PM	#20
Garquillex FFR Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 35 Posts: 965	Re: How do you guys do stairs? Is anyone else not able to do staircases on the keyboard unless they're playing to a chart? __________________

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