Suspicious Scores thread (Formerly Hacked Scores)

[psychoangel691]

If you want to run it go for it, I just hopped on it cause it wasn't being done at all. I don't have as much time as I used to anymore.

[psychoangel691]

That's fine I'll put it up.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Originally Posted by qqwref

Sure, just need to have the first post provide a big link to a post of mine in this thread, and then I can start updating every once in a while.

Opt for this thread to be locked and make a new one. Seems plausible.

[psychoangel691]

Oh, yea, lol I'm like half asleep today I thought that was what was meant, a new thread with a link to the new one in here. I really need to start sleeping at night x.x

[leonid]

Wait so.
Mina AAA'd RATO?
Game over guys.

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by leonid

Wait so.
Mina AAA'd RATO?
Game over guys.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=903

lol nah

[Velocity]

I can pass thread ownership over to qqwref I believe by merging his post with the first one.

[psychoangel691]

If you can please do, I just haven't been able to keep up lately.

[DossarLX ODI]

I took the time to break down MrRubix's Only replay data, Gigadelic.

Before I start, I'd like to point out that this isn't the first time we've seen something like this. It's been mentioned before.

This may not be in chronological order, but it shows how consistent this occurs throughout - 1 frame minijacks and unnatural hits being a consistent aspect of the replay. Sure, someone can hit a 1-framer a couple of times, maybe by accident too, but the amount it's happening here and how it's being done is a completely unnatural way to hit the patterns (especially since this file is essentially a 13). This is not something you'd ever expect to see from an AAA.

Some of the images might be duplicates of a part, but the point is that it is expected for a bot to be consistent about its mistakes. Like I've also said above, this is not the first time we've seen something like this. Unnatural hits and how some patterns are hit barely reflect the stepfile itself.

What's also irregular about the one frame hits is that they were cohesive.


Another 1 frame minijack, but the worst part here is how the second half of the picture is hit. It barely even resembles the file at all.


This also bears very little resemblance to the file.


Like previously seen in the RATO replay, there were many 2 frame intervals hit as jumps and more unnatural 1 frame hits.


The one framers here are just ludicrous. He'd have to have been ridiculously lucky to not get a lot of goods here hitting it that way.


Another case of bearing very little resemblance to the actual file.


Another case of bearing very little resemblance to the actual file.


Another case of bearing very little resemblance to the actual file.


More unnecessary 1 frame hits.


The 12th jack leading into the 24th trill was hit as 2 frame minijacks and awkward gaps, and after that you also see 4 frame intervals having 2 frame interval hits in between. Another case that he'd have to have been ridiculously lucky to not get a lot of goods here.


More unnatural one handed 1 frame hits.


More unnatural one handed 1 frame hits.


More unnatural one handed 1 frame hits.


More unnatural one handed 1 frame hits and weird frame intervals.


Again, weird abuse of frame intervals.


More interval abuse, bearing little resemblance to the file.


More interval abuse, bearing little resemblance to the file.


Irregular One handed minijacks.


This pattern was hit in a very different way than the actual file, very unnaturally and nothing you'd expect from an AAA on a song of this difficulty.


Before the 1 frame minijack hit, that jump/trill is hit in a very unnatural way.


The way this part is hit is just ridiculous.


Unnatural patterns with another 1 frame minijack.


This part is just amazing.

If any of you wanted to know the real purpose of my Challenge for MrRubix thread, it was to get some new replays from him since the old ones are almost all gone. This Gigadelic replay is literally the only replay he had remaining since basically every other replay is botted. It had nothing to do with worsening Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, christ. Velocity has tried to find older replays and been unable to. MrRubix is essentially a really, REALLY horrible case on FFR because of all the lost shit. With his Death Piano replay gone, we don't have physical evidence showing more unnatural 1 frame minijacks being hit, etc. and this certainly makes a huge gray area.

The replay overall is not reasonable. I even have the frame hits for it:

0,0,0,949,745,228,0,0

Look familiar? Go to the link to the post I provided at the top.

MrRubix's RATO AAA: 0,0,583,789,227,0,0

Very few late frame perfect hits, most of it is concentrated in the middle and early frames. And the distribution of frame hits is absurd. A strong player would be aiming for the middle frame, but having trouble hitting it.

[One Winged Angel]

well I'll be damned O_O

edit: lmfao, the whole thing, not just the circled area

[Throwaway]

bitches aint shat but tricks and arrowz

[samurai7694]

who plays legit nowadays?

[DossarLX ODI]

Describes Rubix's case pretty well

[samurai7694]

actually says "KHAN" not "gone"

but

lmfao.....

[iironiic]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

Describes Rubix's case pretty well

Did you really make a video of this? That was unnecessary and uncalled for...

Oh well. Good job on Rubix's case anyways.

[DossarLX ODI]

That video actually gives the painful truth that's existed within this community for basically the past 5 years

Rubix is a cruel case because of how too much shit is gone that could've been used against him. The tools we have now didn't exist back then.

[popsicle_3000]

So what's the verdict on his dp?

And come on stickly...... Not needed

[DossarLX ODI]

Originally Posted by sticklydude

Everyone still dislikes you though.

This is also true

Originally Posted by popsicle_3000

So what's the verdict on his dp?

I really don't know what's going to happen, because honestly, this is the only replay of a score he's claimed to be legitimate. With the DP replay gone, there's no real way to prove it like this Gigadelic replay.

[iironiic]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

That video actually gives the painful truth that's existed within this community for basically the past 5 years

Rubix is a cruel case because of how too much shit is gone that could've been used against him. The tools we have now didn't exist back then.

I understand that... I just don't see any reason to dedicate an entire video highlighting that when you've already provided reasoning against him.

[DossarLX ODI]

Some more additions.

Alt accounts and admitted/obvious hacks
samurai7694: Crowdpleaser and 11ELEVEN AAA (I'd rather not get into this, but he didn't actually AAA the file from the replay)
Bigpapa100: Replay analysis shows evidence of botting. Basically frame perfect runs.
MasterOfTheTaco: Replay analysis shows evidence of botting. St. Scarhand having absurd frame distribution, and unnatural hits and frame distribution on Reality.
ssbmchamp: Zeroframe syndrome on files like Kirby and Death Piano, suggesting evidence of botplay with taps going over which explain the boocounts

Players to look into
OpTic NaDeShoT: 0-2-0-18 on Kidney Stone. No replay data to work off of, but score suggests more "boo syndrome" bot play.
percussion15: No replay data to work off of, but scores look like they suffer from "boo syndrome" bot play.
MrRubix: Pretty much an impossible case in terms of physical evidence, but Gigadelic has been analyzed.