****ing really - Page 2

**psychoangel691** · 12-19-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rushyrulz

whore 5 minute generic dimrain song on thirdstyle all day long for a chance at a token on FFR.

Nice.

Yes the point was to get FFR players to play TS and there should be something coming up that you play on FFR for a prize on TS. Otherwise what incentive does one have to play one game or the other if they don't already?

**bmah** · 12-19-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691

What if I added it to the prizes of the official tourney? Would that make you a little less upset? I could do like top 12 or something.

This could be a temporary appeal, but most people are probably eyeing for the next site-wide chance that anyone can reasonably get. What and when that next chance may be gets people anxious because this is currently the only way of obtaining the token. The incentive for people to play TS more backfires because not many people would end up playing a single song the whole day.

I'm at work myself, so no chance of me getting this (nor would I have tried more than 10 plays or so anyhow).

**psychoangel691** · 12-19-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bmah

This could be a temporary appeal, but most people are probably eyeing for the next site-wide chance that anyone can reasonably get. What and when that next chance may be gets people anxious because this is currently the only way of obtaining the token. The incentive for people to play TS more backfires because not many people would end up playing a single song the whole day.

I'm at work myself, so no chance of me getting this (nor would I have tried more than 10 plays or so anyhow).

Yea I know, I just figured it could at least give it out to a few more people and maybe make hi19 a little less upset. There's other events being planned.

**rushyrulz** · 12-19-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Yes the point was to get FFR players to play TS and there should be something coming up that you play on FFR for a prize on TS. Otherwise what incentive does one have to play one game or the other if they don't already?

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Originally Posted by me

whore 5 minute generic dimrain song

I was mainly taking issue with this part x.x

**hi19hi19** · 12-19-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Emithith

While I don't enjoy V4N's stepping, and don't agree with his syncing, you're starting shit by saying this. I know you're quite pissed off about this, but watch how you word things. :C

Fair enough.
After playing it again I'll settle for, "extremely long, inconsistently stepped file with numerous technical and sync-related errors"
While my personal opinion on the file still stands, hopefully that's a little bit more concrete reasoning as to why.

At the very least TS could have used AJ's recently released file for Mirage Garden. It got great reviews as far as I can tell (as opposed to that Dimrain file lmfao) and it would fit in really well with the token also being a xi song.

Overall I just feel absolutely no thought goes into token requirements, which is something that really has to change considering something around 15% of all FFR files are tokens at this point.

Xx{Midnight}xX · 12-19-2011, 04:16 PM

I like the idea of a token like this.

I just wish the song/chart was slightly more bearable. But eh. Great idea though

Emithith · 12-19-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Yes the point was to get FFR players to play TS and there should be something coming up that you play on FFR for a prize on TS. Otherwise what incentive does one have to play one game or the other if they don't already?

This just causes temporary hype for it. I for one feel with such a requirement that I have played enough TS for my FFR life.

**jimerax** · 12-19-2011, 04:47 PM

Isn't this honorable, and most of your other files are regular releases.

ps this file is 222 BPM dense jumpstream one, I think it's the highst TPS-file in the queue.

**yo man im awesome** · 12-19-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimerax

Isn't this honorable, and most of your other files are regular releases.

ps this file is 222 BPM dense jumpstream one, I think it's the highst TPS-file in the queue.

I personally would find having a file in at all is an honor (then again I have none, hi19 has a buttload) in itself. Most people want their files seen and played, not kept quiet, secretive and exclusive.

EDIT: yea 222 bpm dense js sounds really fun. I'd like to play THAT file, not some (apparently) not-so-good file for hours (not to mention 5 min file? -.-) just to find out it may hve been for nothing (not ending up in top 10), would be a waste of whoring hours.

**remedy1502** · 12-19-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimerax

ps this file is 222 BPM dense jumpstream one, I think it's the highst TPS-file in the queue.

sounds like fun :c
too bad I only just got home and don't have the time to even attempt top 10

**YoshL** · 12-19-2011, 04:54 PM

lol wh0red till i was guaranteed a top 10 spot :3

**igotrhythm** · 12-19-2011, 04:57 PM

I think the argument about making good files into tokens was because it would be a bit of an added incentive to try for them.

Then again, isn't Oni one of your more evil creations?

Thread in a nutshell: Not signing up for TS just to play that one song for that one token. (Plus, I'd be so far behind it'd be pointless to try.)

**ninjaKIWI** · 12-19-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by igotrhythm

Thread in a nutshell: Not signing up for TS just to play that one song for that one token. (Plus, I'd be so far behind it'd be pointless to try.)

Well, again, I think it's a really really cool idea to have a token that requires you to play TS, just that the requirement itself was really poorly chosen. The entire event is a really neat idea.

Maybe even a tournament that involves playing between the two websites someday (and maybe even KBO?). Maybe that's just wishful thinking. >:3

**hi19hi19** · 12-19-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimerax

Isn't this honorable, and most of your other files are regular releases.

I was curious, so I went through all the hard files I've stepped for FFR:

lolharp5000- VC- skill token with gimmicky but easy req
Otaku Speedvibe [Heavy]- VC- skill token with a restrictive but sensible req
Kyuin- VC- skill token with a restrictive req, but I'm okay with that honestly
M.A.M.A.- VC- public but should have been a skill token

Midnight Dragon- FMO- secret with quite a high credit requirement
Otaku Speedvibe [Oni]- FMO- skill token with a restrictive but sensible req
Melonman's OP- FMO- skill token with a difficult and annoying req
PianoCore- FMO- skill token with a very grindy req
Piano Etude (Demon Fire)- FMO- public

St. Scarhand- FGO- skill token with an incredibly restrictive req
FREEDOM DiVE- event token
Reality- FGO- public

As you can see I only actually have three public VC+ files out of the twelve I have stepped.

Let's compare this to two other prolific steppers:
JX- Twenty nine VC+ files, of which twenty one are public
bmah- Twenty six VC+ files, of which twenty are public

Perhaps that puts it in perspective why I get a little annoyed?
In the end I make files because I want to have people enjoy them... and hiding them away as tokens the great majority will never get sort of kills that incentive for me.

**YoshL** · 12-19-2011, 05:08 PM

oh geez. M.A.M.A., demon fire, and Reality. that's....oh geez.

**hi19hi19** · 12-19-2011, 05:10 PM

I'm really not making shit up when I say nearly all my hard files get turned into tokens :/

**lumphoboextreme** · 12-19-2011, 05:15 PM

Lol I just realized out of those I've played less than half your files. Have to say I absolutely hate M.A.M.A. though, SO AWKWARD CAN'T AAA. :'(

Xx{Midnight}xX · 12-19-2011, 05:23 PM

I have a solution! Make MAMA the token and the new chart replace MAMA! GO GO GO GO GO. It's Gimmicky and belongs outside normal ranks anyways!

lol

**jimerax** · 12-19-2011, 05:27 PM

Even though it's limited to higher difficulty songs, interesting statistics hi19.

I'll consider "token percentage" more anyways, especially for steppers who care about this.

Like others said, this is not the only chance to get this token so don't worry.

**hi19hi19** · 12-19-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jimerax

Even though it's limited to higher difficulty songs, interesting statistics hi19.

I'll consider "token percentage" more anyways, especially for steppers who care about this.

Like others said, this is not the only chance to get this token so don't worry.

I only bring up hard files because those tend to be the ones I have put the most effort into.
(Not saying I don't try my best to make easier files as amazing as possible either, it's just that hard files take a lot more time due to simply having more arrows)

And thanks for promising to take it into consideration more...

12-19-2011, 04:16 PM	#26
Xx{Midnight}xX FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 8,548	Re: ing really I like the idea of a token like this. I just wish the song/chart was slightly more bearable. But eh. Great idea though

12-19-2011, 04:47 PM	#28
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: ing really Isn't this honorable, and most of your other files are regular releases. ps this file is 222 BPM dense jumpstream one, I think it's the highst TPS-file in the queue.

12-19-2011, 05:10 PM	#36
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 35 Posts: 12,194	Re: ing really I'm really not making shit up when I say nearly all my hard files get turned into tokens :/ __________________

12-19-2011, 05:15 PM	#37
lumphoboextreme FFR Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 35 Posts: 8,592	Re: ing really Lol I just realized out of those I've played less than half your files. Have to say I absolutely hate M.A.M.A. though, SO AWKWARD CAN'T AAA. :'( __________________

12-19-2011, 05:23 PM	#38
Xx{Midnight}xX FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 8,548	Re: ing really I have a solution! Make MAMA the token and the new chart replace MAMA! GO GO GO GO GO. It's Gimmicky and belongs outside normal ranks anyways! lol

12-19-2011, 05:27 PM	#39
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: ing really Even though it's limited to higher difficulty songs, interesting statistics hi19. I'll consider "token percentage" more anyways, especially for steppers who care about this. Like others said, this is not the only chance to get this token so don't worry.

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