Suicide

[alainbryden]

I grow so frustrated of people like Meteor858 who broadcast their so-called depression as a means of getting attention or feeling special. To them I say -_-.

As for suicide, the illegality of it is out-dated. It was done in a time when religious beliefs were at a high, and to prevent people who believed breaking the law would sent them to hell from killing themselves. It is now a useless law, badly inforced (no one has ever been convicted, lol) and is wasting space in the rule book.

But to digress, I have to say that having it stated as officially illigal demonstrates an understood immorality in the action. The fact that it is a crime is not that you actually killed yourself, but that you imposed trauma on those around you.

[Moogy]

Halfway through reading this topic, I said, out loud, "This topic is LOL." Yes, I said LOL out loud. That's how bad this topic is.

[stretchypanda]

To deviate a little bit from the topic, Meteor is a good example for those of us who are pro-censoring. Everything he says completely loses credibility when it is littered with all those little symbols.

To go back ON topic, I agree that depression can be beaten with willpower. Willpower ALONE I'm not so sure. Just like any curable mental illness (Alzheimer's involves the actual irreparable deterioration of brain tissue, so that doesn't count, hataki), one needs the will to get over it (I don't mean for that to sound harsh). Most of the time, though, a person is so deeply rooted in his illness that enough willpower is almost impossible to find. This is where support from loved ones, help from trained professionals, and sometimes the use of drugs (although I dislike the use of prescriptions -- Donnie Darko, anyone?) come in.

So, I still think that some of you are being a little harsh in your judgements, but at the same time, I have little doubt that, should someone you love come to you as depressed and suicidal, you would offer nothing but help.

[jujo07]

In my opinion suicide shouldn't be illegal because like some of you have said it would only motivate people to do it more and get it done right the first time. This also brings up the issue of cutting and burning. People do it, but I think that's one of the only ways people that have depression can feel in control.

It's kind of crazy because from my couple years at high school there's been at least 5 suiciders and I've known at least 3 of them. Also like someone else said it puts a lot of depression in the friends of the people that committed suicide, and let me tell you it's hard. My worst experience was one guy who asked me out about a week before he committed suicide. The whole rest of the year I felt so guilty like it was all my fault.

One of the other guys I knew was a cutter and at the time I didn't know it. He asked me to go for a drive one night and he showed me his arms in the parking lot that night. It was so horrible, all up and down his arms there a checker board pattern on them. Ever since I had a talk with him that night, to this day he hasn't cut himself, he's replaced it with mountain biking.

My point is depression and suicide are crazy things that only the person doing it to themselves can explain. I think people that don't have depression will never understand the true pain behind it all, even I don't understand it, with all the people I've been around that have it.

[QreepyBORIS]

Originally Posted by Meteor858

dude ive seen psycologists and taken meds and nothing worked ive tried to be optimistic until i though i would break outta stress

maybe i was meant to be this way or somthin...

You're like a Marvin that tries not to be depressed!


Remember, there is no problem that can't be solved through serial killing.

And pills. Take more of them. Keep taking them. That's good.







And also, never listen to me.

[Meteor858]

And pills. Take more of them. Keep taking them. That's good.







And also, never listen to me.


thats apparent
lol

[QreepyBORIS]

But no, seriously, what types of Meds (and in what quantity) did you take?

There's probably something better on the market. :P And it's definitely worth a try. Maybe.

[FlashStinger]

*bad joke*
Suicide is your way of telling god, "you can't fire me, I quit".

[Meteor858]

boris i took the meds when i was even younger than i am now and it was a while ago so i dont remember much cept they didnt work at all

No flash i think its a good joke it made me lol *it also made me think of donald trump*

[hatakikakashi]

I don't see anything wrong with taking medication if it's helping. If it's not doing you any good then ask your doctor to let you try something else. Then again I'm only talking about clinical depression, where you have a chemical imbalace that medication can help even out. I wouldn't refuse to take the medicine just because I don't like pills.

You can be severely depressed and not have clinical depression. When I say clinically depressed versus just depressed I'm not comparing your level of depression, I'm comparing the cause.

[Meteor858]

Clinical here

and i dont BROADCAST it for attention i tell others in a hope that people will try to help me but i guess i overestimated the people of this world.

maybe the ones in hell will understand more....

[sleeplessdragn]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the first step toward correcting any form of mental illness acceptance of the illness? If this is true, than isn't this acceptance in itself a form of mental overcoming? I agree with stretchy; willpower can beat depression, albeit not always alone. I mean if the first step toward finding relief is a mental step in itself, that has to be saying a lot about the source, and treatment, of any form of mental disease.

Originally Posted by Meteor858

maybe the ones in hell will understand more....

O, and a statement like this, if your not broadcasting your depression, is unnecessary. Unless of course you want to broadcast your depression.

[hatakikakashi]

I think you have a good point, in so far as to say that willpower and a determination to beat the illness would definatly help, and that willpower alone isn't enough. Knowing you have a problem with anything is the first step in overcoming it. The thing about depression that makes it so difficult to do without the aid of medication is that you don't want to do anything, even if you know it will help. It sort of saps all of your energy and desire to get better. Kinda like your really hungry but your so lazy you won't get up and make something to eat.I've done that before

[FlashStinger]

Well, it does do the exact opposite to some people. Some people it gives more energy and they feel like they are alive again. They feel better than they ever have before. That's why it is so hard to say what is right for all people.

[hatakikakashi]

Depression doesn't make you hyper. It doesn't make anyone hyper. If your all happy and never felt better then why would you think you had depression. WTF are you talking about? We were talking about how it's hard to be motivated when your depressed, not the effects of medication.

[Meteor858]

lol yeah stinger maybe your thinkin of mania, cuz therez bipolar where its like a mix of depression and mania

[stratforddrums]

My belief is that there is no hell. Hell is what we creat for ourselves here on earth. When you die, I believe you go to the ultimite bliss (Heaven). So when someone committs suicide, there only saying there done here on earth and are ready to go on to bliss.

[Layla-Day]

I think is and it should remain illegal because it is the goverment's job to do whatever they can to keep you safe.

[Meteor858]

hmmm thats a very optimistic way of thinkin bout it.

it may be true but ya dont know till you die.

and who knows if there is anything after this life?

it could be an eternal void of darkness and stupidity but it could also be the blissful paradise your thinkin of strat

who knows?

[hatakikakashi]

That's why you should wait and find out when your supposed to. I wouldn't be too quick to jump the gun, just incase being dead sucks.