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Old 12-16-2004, 07:56 PM   #21
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TIS TEH SEESON

For rude customers.

Yes, sir, it IS indeed true that we no longer carry the item you wanted. No, we do not have more. If we had more, would I hold it from you and drain from company profits?

Why do people get so bitter over the most trivial things around this time?

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Old 12-16-2004, 10:52 PM   #22
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I have always had a love-hate relantionship with Christmas
I love the presents and the break and the family togetherness.
But, I hate how cheery everyone gets this time of year, it just
gets on my nerves.

I HATE christmas Carols but I went to a chatholic skool and
was forced to learn almost all of them for stupid pageants

and I think that the north pole is in international waters, and thus
cannot be colonized by any one country
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:57 PM   #23
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Christmas sucks here because everyone goes psycho on christmas. Example from, 2 hours ago: My brother wanted a cold coke and asked my dad because my dad keeps cold cokes in a little fridge back in his room. But my dad only had 2 cokes left and my dad likes to drink them in the morning so my dad said no. My brother got pissed off and told my dad to "Fuck off you fucking piece of shit asshole." So now tomorrow after my dad has his 2 cokes in the morning (around 6AM and will most likely wake everyone up) he is going to kick my 27yr old brother and his disgusting 17yr old girlfriend out. (THANK GOD.) But this shit happens every time around christmas.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:12 PM   #24
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:24 PM   #25
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Default RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: I hate Christmas.

I don't do Christmas, period.
Nor any of the other december holidays.

Catholicism wanted to christianize the pegans, and so adopted the Pegan drinking and fornicating around bonfires ritual called Saturnalia, altered the main subject to Christ, and just organized the festivities. The pegans get to keep their festival, and the Catholics get some converts.

I refuse to celebrate something that:
One, has such pegan roots.
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Two, was re-created by the pegan entity that calls themself the Catholic church.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:35 PM   #26
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Ouch, Cen.

So something that may have had pagan roots can't be meaningful despite having cast off all original pagan association?

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Old 12-16-2004, 11:42 PM   #27
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You can't polish a terd. Sure, put it in a nice paper box with decoration and perfume, but it is still a terd. Christmas is a lie that was started by the Catholic church. I don't need Christmas to get presents. Isn't it sad that people are compelled to give presents, just because "its christmas"? Besides, what do presents have to do with Christ's birth? Yes, the wise men gave gifts, but how does your Nintendo DS remind you of Christ? It doesn't. There is no religious basis behind this holiday (which came from holy day). There is nothing holy about pegans. There is nothing holy about the catholic church. Are church inquisitions holy?

It is just a pack of lies, polished with presents, so that you forget the true meaning. Some of you people (only some) would gut the bible, say that god is an atheist, and that jesus was a liberal. Yet you dont look into christmas? It was a religious blunder that turned secular for some pretty lights and a lot of capitolism.


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Ouch, Cen.

So something that may have had pagan roots can't be meaningful despite having cast off all original pagan association?
And the bonfires. Catholicism changed the idea to candles, which in time were symbolized as lights. Where else do you think the christmas lights came from?

There is no religion in this somehow "holy day" and so as someone who looks towards the bible, I wont be part of it.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:05 AM   #28
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Dont forget the fact that there is no possible way Jesus Christ was born in a manger...in the middle east, at night during winter, tempuratures can reach below 0 degrees. Baby Jesus would have frozen to death if he were born on the 25th of December.

Though I do celebrate the Winter Solstice.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:11 AM   #29
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Dont forget the fact that there is no possible way Jesus Christ was born in a manger...in the middle east, at night during winter, tempuratures can reach below 0 degrees. Baby Jesus would have frozen to death if he were born on the 25th of December.

Though I do celebrate the Winter Solstice.
He was born some time in the fall. And winter starts the 21st.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:13 AM   #30
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Your radical, resentment-filled arguments would have more strength if they were presented with a) evidence and b) less righteous vigor.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:16 AM   #31
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I'm not telling you to convert, just why I am not doing Christmas. Look it up yourself if you want the truth, this isn't critical thinking.

But Jewpin knows some of it, so I am obviously not making things up. Go ahead. Google "Saturnalia".
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:21 AM   #32
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I'm guessing a bunch of people in this topic want razor blades for Christmas.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:24 AM   #33
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I'm guessing a bunch of people in this topic want razor blades for Christmas.
Who needs razor blades when I can slit my wrist with my broken heart?
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:23 AM   #34
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Born August 15th or something. That's what I heard.
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Catholics are strange. Jesus being a native American makes more sense. Psshhh I give up on religion, right now....
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But Jewpin knows some of it, so I am obviously not making things up. Go ahead. Google "Saturnalia".
I don't think anyone's actually suggesting that Christ was actually born on December twenty-fifth of the first year... The fact that the Church adopted the day of lo Saturnalia as Christmas isn't the best kept secret or anything.

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There are many things from which I might have derived good by which I have not profited, Christmas among the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas-time, when it has come round-apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that-as a good time; a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time;the only time I know of,in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me good; and I say God bless it!
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I love Christmas time.. you all are a bunch of Scrooges.
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I must agree there are things about chirstmas I hate myself...like the music and all...but I do like the fact that we get school off and I spend time with my family...and my grandma making turkey *drools* mmm...Turkey I really could care less about presents
I hate christmas music because I have to play it every year on my violin
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TIS TEH SEESON

For rude customers.

Yes, sir, it IS indeed true that we no longer carry the item you wanted. No, we do not have more. If we had more, would I hold it from you and drain from company profits?

Why do people get so bitter over the most trivial things around this time?

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I hate that kind of crap.

And it's even worse where I work (Toys'R'Us is an absolute nightmare during season).

However, I've always kind of liked Christmas. When I was younger it was for the presents, but now it's a nice chance to see some of my older siblings who I almost never get to see anymore.

Aside from presents, Christmas has never been a big deal at my house anyway. Yeah, we get the family together and have a nice meal, but thats about it. We don't play Christmas music, we don't have Christmas lights or decorations anywhere besides the tree, and religion has never been a part of it at all (practically everyone in the house has different beliefs anyway, since my parents never pushed any upon us). And since my mom drastically cut back on the amount of gift giving that goes on, there has been very little stress for anyone.

The only bad part about Christmas is that once dinner is done and everyone leaves, it is the most boring night of the year.
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