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These things have been happening all too frequently. And it happens in two parts: Take away as many lives as possible then kill yourself. It's so strange and sudden.
What could drive one to such a thought and choice? Where does such a thing begin? Where has the illness formed? Is this act the product of someone just overly bored with society? Is this the result of bullying? Is this just the result of someone who may have had an IQ of 200 yet couldn't control themselves to become productive and instead they let their genius lead them to madness? There are so many unknown factors because of how sudden these things are. I heard someone was going to pull off such a deed at my campus as well. I will not reveal any info. But this is such a dangerous and somewhat widespread thing. Any thoughts on this? (Am I crossing some line I may have overlooked with this thread?)
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My thoughts are to watch for any signs that these campus shootings are going to happen. If there is anything, warn some authority figure about it; even if they don't listen, you've got to pound it into their heads. That's how it happened with Columbine. They posted blogs and everything. Parents tried to go to the sheriff about it, but he assured them all was fine.
The truth of it is, campus shootings are usually a result of bullying, as the student has specific targets, but kills other people that get in the way trying to get to their target. Or maybe they were hated by everyone, and just shot randomly at people. Mainly, if they were bullied to the point where they felt as if they had no choice, then this might happen. Cho Seung-Hui at Virginia Tech killed because they "backed him into a corner". All these signs are given around to tell what will happen, but no one wants to stop it, making it seem like they are egging them on telling them: "Go ahead, I'd like to see you try." As you can see, that didn't end out so well for them. And about taking away as many lives as possible, that is because of the pain they feel. They are trying to release it on all those people that ruined his life before they take their own. They want to take their own life to put themselves out of their misery before they will get more in prison. Human nature is normally to take out what you believe is right for your life. These people believe that they have to get revenge on all of those that have hurt them. I believe that it has gone like: "You ripped out my soul, now I will let you walk in yours!" My guess is them taking out their emotions on the people that brought them up. And then as soon as it is done, they kill themselves, and then have a great life down in the dark realm. |
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There's always a reason behind an action. No matter how unreasonable it may be to the general public, it's all completely worked out in the criminal's head. Hence they can commit the action. It's really dependent on the individual.
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I don't find events such as this amusing. It's basically a dead wolf howling its final cry. Humans who are too weak to confront bullying etc. run away from their problems. Campus shooting is an erratic form of running away.
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Towards some of my more serious problems, I'd say "I'd rather die then confront it." The people mentioned in the first post brought it to "I'd rather die then confront it. I'll take the problem starters with me." They do such acts because they don't care about life. Hence as my quote said: People would only go this far to enact the perfect death only under extreme circumstances where their desire to change the past outweighs the amount of lives needed to be sacrificed for it. They also have to be intelligent enough to commit such an act, strong enough to withstand the impact of committing such an act, and most of all, ready to commit suicide. Life is meaningless in their sense of thinking. I can probably tell, because I follow the same thought process. What are humans weak in comparison to? I don't seem to be able to find an existence that is stronger. Humans can't do many things, but the term weak is a comparative adjective. There has to be a stronger entity for humans to be called weak. I believe everything from nonliving to living things are all equal in that respect. They follow the same rules of situation and consequence, parameters and possibilities, and cause and effect.
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Never rule out pathological insanity..
Another view, out of many, is that the types of people who commit these murders are often found to have been avid fantasy fans. A lot of them get caught up in a world they want to bring alive but can't. That brings them to hate the world around them, and the people around them who like the world they live in. Also, being engulfed in video games or literature may lead these people to give life a much lighter weight than most of society does. They may think "well this is all part of history, history needs an interesting story, I could create that.." or something along the line. Really,it all depends on the person's psyche.
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What I said. =)
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Haha..music is the same way for me. Harder to explain though..
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I can't explain either. Only those who experience it can understand. Much like how "normal" people can't understand "insane" people. (Yes I did post 4 times on this page. I'll stop now.)
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yea why do people always refer to human as a weak race/ the problem race/ etc? and school shootings are always because of bullying to the point of psychological stability. there was a kid at my high school who I've known since I was in 5th grade and he was in 2nd grade. He has a cochlear implant thing and talks kind of funny, not sure if it's a result of the hearing aid. but anyway, he's been made fun of all his life, and when he got to his sophomore year in college, he made a post on myspace on how he was gonna put a bomb in the school but kill himself first. all his friends got worried about it and tried to talk him out of it so he wouldn't get busted, but some parent found out about it and the kid went to jail and still is. another kid at my high school who was also 3 grades below me always got made fun of because he was slightly mentally retarded but not enough to be in special ed. classes. when he was a junior someone made fun of him and he pulled a knife on him. got kicked out of school. life isn't fair, and it isn't fair that these kids get harrassed to the point where they contemplate using violence on other kids their own age. but that's basically the cause. any other "theory" will get too specific and exclude some killers. like if you talk about "playing violent video game" there'll always be exceptions. harrassing to the point of instability is the only common cause of shootings
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I've thought about doing it a couple of times. When people hate their lives, they tend to blame it on others. It's just easier that way, and sometimes it is other peoples' faults. They just want to die, but they want those people to have to suffer the same fate as themselves, so they indiscriminately kill everyone.... unless they're just crazy.
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Yes, it is based psychologically.
If a person is repeatedly bullied over a large span of their life they are bound to lash out. It's unavoidable to not have pent up frustration. Now, there's a different standard of having common sense and having intelligence. If a person has common sense they can tell themselves "I don't want to kill people. Even if I'm mad." The people who have intelligence can say "I don't want to kill people. But I might." In all honesty, there've been plenty of times where I've pondered it. There just needs to be that little guy on your shoulder telling you not to do it. It's not a matter of thinking critically when it comes to something like that. Perhaps morality. And your post here does not violate any rule that I can think of. |
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I believe that these are the type of people who feel excluded for what ever reason (I share a certain belief that no one around me does yet, which annoys me greatly but I don't go killing people because of that). I guess you could say that they feel more included with those who they have killed by having everyone die. Some people have split personalities (you might have seen the silly comments on my profile, but I probably will never do anything drastically violent) at times and rarely express their true emotions that when their dark side emerges, it becomes devastating. Of course, I'm stating these things because if I didn't have a purpose in life, I might do something crazy like a school/campus shooting.
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LAshing out is exactly what it is. these people can't take the current situation in their life, and they want to make everyone else in their life suffer immensely. After, they either
A) Can't take the consequences of what they did or B) Hate themselves and want to die. |
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Edgar Allen Poe once wrote about something called the Imp of the Perverse. The idea behind it is that sometimes, we can do things that are very dark and evil with curiosity as a motivation. In the back of our minds, we are always asking ourselves, what will happen if I do this or that until the point where we actually do commit the act for the sake of committing the act.
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Humans are weak compared to the visionaries that they view themselves to be. Humans ascribe themselves to what they wish to be, and not what they really are. By this simple bravado, humans continue to confide baselessly in themselves , in the dream that they put themselves in. Take the fish out of the water and it will die within the hour. |
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The things they would have to blame would be teachers, students, or home life. I'm sure they just have a weak mind and don't know what else to do when they are frustrated with people. I could be wrong, I'm no shooter, just my theory. |
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the people who do the shooting are waedk minded individuals. so what people bully you thats life it happens to everyone get over it.
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