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Old 06-10-2008, 11:49 AM   #61
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I don't know if this was posted before in this thread, nor do I care. I'm posting it because it gives some insight to those posting on a whim.

Critical Thinking : Acceptable Suicide?
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Read entirely before even thinking of posting in this thread. We do not appreciate people stating the obvious in Critical Thinking and bumping a relatively old thread.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:34 PM   #62
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Hmmmm, Depends on what you mean.
Like have I ever put a gun to my forehead,
Or have I ever thought about putting a gun to my head.

No & no, I love my life. It'd be wise not to forget that you only get 1 trip to this world.

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That's pretty ****ed up. And what isn't the point of surviving?
Exactly, Unless something is really messed up with you [Mentally], You should not commit suicide. There are alternatives for suicide. If your friend is actually stupid enough to kill himself over emotional problems, then he deserves to die. If everybody was like your friend, then the USA wouldn't be the land of the free, it would be the land of emotional problems. I myself am just happy to be alive, I feel fortunate to be here, the best country in the whole world.

Here's a video of an interview on Marilyn Manson, it includes him talking about his thoughts on suicide, I think it's worth the watch.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=47TWt3vi9hc&amp

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Old 06-10-2008, 03:38 PM   #63
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I have never felt suicidal, but if you have to question it then you know you should not do it. You can do so much with your life, but people take that for granted. I'm sorry that I do not know how it feels so I cannot give that great of advice, but find the real problems and talk to someone about it. I am sure a lot of people have already posted great advice, but I wanted to put my 2 cents in.

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Old 06-10-2008, 03:41 PM   #64
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lol.. idk what to say..
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I've felt severely depressed at a point or two in my life, but never suicidal. Given how difficult that alone was to deal with, I can imagine what it would be like to have suicidal thoughts. I've helped a couple friends that were potentially suicidal through some rough patches, and getting help is definitely the key. The problem with many people that are depressed or have negative life attitudes is that the negativity often ends up becoming the source of the problem, and that continues to grow. Our thoughts of failure or inadequacy end up making the situation worse. It's a slippery slope - once you start getting pulled into the maelstrom of depression it's often incredibly difficult to get out without someone else to come to your aid, whether we want to admit that to ourselves or not. Many people do not, and in the process end up taking things into their own hands , and sometimes they go too far.
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:55 PM   #66
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I have never felt suicidal, but if you have to question it then you know you should not do it. You can do so much with your life, but people take that for granted. I'm sorry that I do not know how it feels so I cannot give that great of advice, but find the real problems and talk to someone about it. I am sure a lot of people have already posted great advice, but I wanted to put my 2 cents in.
I agree with this, and slightly disagree. I think that talking with friends helps a lot, but some people don't always have that many friends to talk to/or just won't understand. I think that making new friends is a big step away from suicidal thoughts. really, just making new friends, does help out a lot with not only suicidal problems, but any emotional problem.

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lol.. idk what to say..
Then why post?

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I've felt severely depressed at a point or two in my life, but never suicidal. Given how difficult that alone was to deal with, I can imagine what it would be like to have suicidal thoughts. I've helped a couple friends that were potentially suicidal through some rough patches, and getting help is definitely the key. The problem with many people that are depressed or have negative life attitudes is that the negativity often ends up becoming the source of the problem, and that continues to grow. Our thoughts of failure or inadequacy end up making the situation worse. It's a slippery slope - once you start getting pulled into the maelstrom of depression it's often incredibly difficult to get out without someone else to come to your aid, whether we want to admit that to ourselves or not. Many people do not, and in the process end up taking things into their own hands , and sometimes they go too far.
I completely agree with your post. This is the best example of how depression and suicide relate, and how it works. You speak with experience and intelligence, two key logical ingredients. Not only that but I was able to relate your post with my life, and how I think.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:53 PM   #67
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"If everybody was like your friend, then the USA wouldn't be the land of the free, it would be the land of emotional problems. I myself am just happy to be alive, I feel fortunate to be here, the best country in the whole world."

Nice post, but I have an objection to this point. If the everyone in the world was like ANY single person you can think of, it wouldn't be able to function at all; not just if everyone was like a suicidal person you know. There is such a perfect bell curve in terms of our interests, attitudes, abilities, etc. that we stay in balance. If everyone was Emeril Lagassi, we might have great food but terrible crumbling infrastructure and poor resource allocation among a lot of products, along with millions of other problems. If everyone was Albert Einstein, we'd have great advances all the time in our undestanding of physics but have mental problems at the same time and get lost too much to function efficiently. If everyone was me, no one would want to do the working class jobs. We need people who are good, bad, and in the middle of every spectrum and metric, always.
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:22 AM   #68
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pillz...takes lots of them and just wait it out
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pillz...takes lots of them and just wait it out
Dont do this no matter what. Unless the reason why you want to kill yourself is medical to begim with.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:32 AM   #70
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theres not really any point to suicide.
Ive had plenty of times when i have wanted to kill myself, and i realized, what would ending my life bring? Really, what would it bring to everyone else? What are you going to prove? Nothing, it might bring some attention to yourself and your family on the local news for a few days like some people on here said, but then what? I mean, im not saying that life isnt bad enough to want to kill yourself, but there really isnt any point to it. Lots of people love you and want you to live on, just think about that.
And like a lot of other people on here said, the people who tell everyone they know "ahhh oh my gosshh im gonna kill myself so you will all know what its like!" you just want attention, and thats what we call, an attention whore.
just think about the people whos lives youd completely screw over. There isnt any point to suicide, its just a way for people to get attention.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:01 PM   #71
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pillz...takes lots of them and just wait it out
Any pills that are strong enough to kill you without any pain are strong enough to keep you high to the point where you dont care about anything at all. Things like aspering; you will throw up before you OD while others will make you suffer, then die.


If you are gonna use pills though, anything else other than intoxicating drugs are retarded. It will be painful; mine as well jump off a cliff or something if you are going to do that. And if you do have anything strong enough to make yourself OD and hardly feel any pain, it would make more sense just to stay high, not care, and live on.

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theres not really any point to suicide.
Ive had plenty of times when i have wanted to kill myself, and i realized, what would ending my life bring? Really, what would it bring to everyone else? What are you going to prove? Nothing, it might bring some attention to yourself and your family on the local news for a few days like some people on here said, but then what? I mean, im not saying that life isnt bad enough to want to kill yourself, but there really isnt any point to it. Lots of people love you and want you to live on, just think about that.
And like a lot of other people on here said, the people who tell everyone they know "ahhh oh my gosshh im gonna kill myself so you will all know what its like!" you just want attention, and thats what we call, an attention whore.
just think about the people whos lives youd completely screw over.
Yes, there is to some. When it gets to the point that you have no other way to cope, thats, then thats when most turn to suicide. If you were to sit alone in a room, in a depressed state, for days on end, with nothing to turn your mind to: you would probably try to kill yourself.

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No, suicide is the act of killing yourself. What you are talking about is a suicide threat.

How can you benefit from attention when you are too dead to recognise it?

I had an assumption, as I started reading your post; that you were under the mindset of "Suicide is for attention whores!" No. Suicide threats are for attention whores, and most of the time, they want attention so they can have somebody to help them cope.

Its easier to raise an alarm by saying "Man ive been thinking about killing myself." than to let your guard down than asking whoever you are crying out to; "Hey I need help.".

Obviously, those who are depressed have no one else to turn to or they find it hard to turn to someone else. If they could open up to someone, there is a good chance they wouldnt be depressed in the first place.

By stating you want to kill yourself, its testing the waters. The person is seeing if you really do care, and at the same time, is protecting him/herself. Its easier to jump right off and make an attention getting statement than to be confrontational and ask for help, when the person may just laugh at you and call you weak. Sure, you may think its a silly mindset; but such is the mindset of those who are in a depression.




Yes and... a bit off topic but:

Sadly; FFR is perfect breeding ground for depressed people.

The game just caters depression. From personal experience; while depressed -
anything that takes effort to do, even if you like doing it, you won't.


With FFR; you can open up a page, get in a few games, stop for a bit,
stare at things with a blank expression on your face, and repeat.

The game takes a LOT concentration so you think less (About the things you mind is usually focused on during depression..),
and due to the ammount of concentration it takes; the games go by really fast.
Whhile depressed, all you are looking to do is pass the time by until you can fall asleep
and get to the next day so you can, yet again, find something to do so you can get to the next day (Yep, paradox...).
FFR's time consuming gameplay helps A LOT.

On top of that, and the worst of all; FFR is an ego driven game. A mega trait of many who are depressed -
is the lack of self-confidence/ having low self-esteem altogether. Due to the time and effort it takes to become
skilled at this game, high scores are looked upon quite highly. The game is an ego booster. Anyone who is depressed is looking
for a boost in their already low ego.

Mix that with the fact that a lot those who are dedicated the most time to this game are people who have low self-esteem and/or are depressed in the first place, and
you have a perfect circle. They will get better because they play non stop to pass the time away, and they will keep coming back because they like the attention they
get as a top player.

Seriously, people wonder why this place has a bunch of nut jobs. Besides the 4Chan wannabes who act like the rest of the meme world, this place has a lot of
fked up people (This ones for you smitty! ).

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Old 06-11-2008, 09:48 PM   #72
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Suicide isn't something to take lightly, and it's not just something you should do to get out of petty problems or disputes. Not only will suicide (obviously) hurt you, it will hurt everyone in your family, your friends, and your boyfriend or girlfriend if you have one.
There are alternatives to wanting to kill yourself. Such as- As I've seen below- therapy, medication if required, or simply just finding someone to talk to. Should you try to talk about it through FFR forums? If that is the way that you need to find someone to talk to, then by all means- do it this way. But, it's important to have someone to talk to in real life, also. As easy as it may be to find online, having someone to be with and comfort you is important.
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:41 PM   #73
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This is my reality. I find comfort almost nowhere else.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:36 PM   #74
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Ah Suicide, the easiest way out. Being one who is going throught a depressive/suicidal state right now (but slowly getting out of it) let me offer you my limited advice.

1. Really consider what your thinking. Basically, your'e considering ending your life, and that is the single biggest desicison you can possibly make. Consider all the people that will miss you, that love and cherish you. One thing that really helped me was someone saying to me "If you were gone i would kill myself" and that is exactly the kind of thing you need to start boosting yourself up. You need to start living for someone else before you start living for yourself

2. Ask yourself why you are killing yourself. What has driven you the point where self-destruction seems to be the only option? For me, I had found my girlfriend making out with another guy, this is the third girl in a row who has cheated on me. Afterwards, I started taking a very deep look at myself. Am i really that ugly that no girl wants to be with me except for the excuse of sucking money? Am I dumb? Am I werid? Am I failure? Am I wrong in every single way? I kept on answering yes to all of these questions and i kept getting more and more miserable (silently of course, i figured no one wanted to listen to me bitch and moan about how much my life sucks.) I started watching all the beautiful girls and the "hottie" boys, and wondering why they get to be so happy when I am so pathetically sad. That when suicide became an option to me. I figured that I was a mistake and didn't deserve to live. I cried alot (I know guys aren't aloud to cry, say what you want i don't care) and I got sick and tired of everyday being called all the things I called myself eveyday, and slowly it got to my head. I wrote out a plan, and as a matter of fact i still have it but i never acted it out. I'm not scared, i just started wondering "what if things get better"? Which brings me to my final peice of advice

3. Look at your memories. Do you have any photos, scrapbooks, really important objects that remind you of something? If so (I highly doubt you don't) go find them. Start looking at them and think back to all those happy, adventerous times and you know what you'll get/see. A smiling face and that is exactly what you need to remeber. That if you do keep working at it you will become happy again (not that can really speak, i have yet to get to this stage)

And that's my two cents. Live for someone else, work at what makes you happy and get your life back on track. Me personally, slowly I'm building my trust back in the female gender (no offence ladies, but ive been hurt and it isnt getting any better, nor have i have ever had a good experince). But my friends and family keep me happy and one day, I'll find a girl that really does love me, and you too will find your true happiness if you work hard enough.

That said, if you do really think that you can't handle anymore, I wont tell you not to but please, think about the fact that a huge amount of people have posted (that you probably dont even know) with there advice to get you through this difficult time, and your friends and family care 2378384797 times more for you. So in conclusion, think about it, really, really think about it

Peace N love

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Nostalgic memories can be depressing. I'd rather look more at the future then at the past. But really i think you should just look at now and what to do.
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:/. If this is your reality, then talk to someone online.
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You can't always trust people online, you don't know if they're crazy. You might even say that they're Psychotik.
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You can't always trust people online, you don't know if they're crazy. You might even say that they're Psychotik.
Out of the variety of people I've met on the internet, none of them are crazy. Nor 'psychotic.' They're all pretty nice people. You'll always have your genuine assholes, but they're easily picked out of the bunch.
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It doesn't matter how they are irl. I have two completely different personalities on the internet and irl. As long as what I see on the internet stays as is on the internet, what the people truly are really don't matter. I've done so-called "roleing" before. It's popular to role a human that you really aren't on the internet. I know a lot of people that do.

It's better to role an inexistent figure on the internet than to stick with who you are irl, if you can improve who you are by roleing. It can only help yourself and the internet community. No one would like me at all if I stuck with my original personality.
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It's better to role an inexistent figure on the internet than to stick with who you are irl, if you can improve who you are by roleing. It can only help yourself and the internet community. No one would like me at all if I stuck with my original personality.
I would rather share who I am than to hide it. Why would you pretend to be someone else? So that they aren't freaked out when they try to talk to you or befriend you? Even if they end up likeing who you are with a so called "roleing" personality they aren't really a friend are they...

EDIT: I get what you're trying to say, but isn't it better to just let up on it than to just role someone totally else? I'm a heavily sarcastic person but the internet isn't a place for sarcasm. I don't change my personality, I just don't be sarcastic as much as I would normally be.

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