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Old 06-7-2008, 01:18 PM   #21
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Default Re: Have you ever felt suicidal? If so, how did you get over it? If not, how would yo

I've thought about suicide, or rather, thought about being dead, but I've never sought any means to commit suicide.

My only advice would be: don't kill yourself. Suicide is a very permanent solution to temporary problems.
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Old 06-7-2008, 01:39 PM   #22
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I think about it whenever mom is mad at me, whenever someone at school picks on me, or when my teachers are being jerks. I don't know why, but talking to a friend helps a lot. Haku and Fant talked me out of it quite a few times. It is the easy way out, but it's a bad way. Live on, make friends, and try to be happy. Don't force yourself to live a life of solitude.

PS - Don't do it, if you feel like you are going to, talk to someone about what is bugging you. I suggest a close friend in which you trust.
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Old 06-7-2008, 07:51 PM   #23
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Thanks to Midday and Sarajane for your lengthy contributions that I learned stuff from. I am especially appreciative Midday for sharing some of your reasons. And thanks to everyone else who made a thoughtful statement.

And to the person who said something along the lines of "if you can think about killing yourself and then laugh at yourself at how silly and stupid that would be, you're probably fine.": I have done that before, but it didn't always guarantee my safety. In the past, I've felt myself both laugh at myself and pity myself for being so stupid. Other times, I felt like I really needed to carry through with it.

And I'll admit that at one point last year I was a wimp and threatened a person or two with no intention of actually killing myself. It was a cowardly thing to do that was only for attention. Earlier this year, though, I did it again, but I was actually serious about it. And I discussed it with several of my friends who tried to help counsel me through it. I bargained with them and didn't find their arguments as compelling as mine. I ended up scheduling it the day after a major dance in order to give myself one more opportunity to change my mind, but instead I called it off about a month earlier. So I didn't actually come that close in time, because I made sure I scheduled it way off in the distance so as to give myself more time to think, but I had researched it online and had planned it out exactly.

I won't share my reasons for wanting to do it, other than the fact that I believe some of my crucial weaknesses are malignant and can never be solved, but here are reasons why I failed:
-gaining admission to a good college. I didn't feel it would be right to waste the great opportunity at a good career that I had been given. Had that university not admitted me, I'd probably be dead today.
-eurobeat and some other music. They symbolize for me how amazing life can be and how the realm of opportunities is virtually endless for the average person.

...which means that a gain in self esteem had little to do with my overturning of my decision, and self esteem is something I will really have to work hard to gain in college in order to stay emotionally healthy.
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Old 06-8-2008, 07:16 PM   #24
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I Listen to some optimistic music or music that empowers you like Behemoth although that may be too extreme for some their lyrics make you feel like if your a god something especially their song conquer all
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Old 06-8-2008, 07:36 PM   #25
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Your welcome. You used to be in my top16 in my previous account. 3-4 years ago.

Unfortunately, I won't get into a good college. That's one reason nullified for me. =/
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Old 06-8-2008, 07:51 PM   #26
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Basiclly most people who talk about it do it for sympathy and attention.
Bottom line.

If you are going to suicide, do it. If you can't do it, then turn around and move on.
Those who endorse that they are going to suicide are just putting up a show.
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Old 06-8-2008, 07:53 PM   #27
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It does depend on the person. I had a friend of mine nearly go for it but then he would. He's afraid he might screw up and live. That's why he don't try.
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Old 06-8-2008, 07:58 PM   #28
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Bottom line.

If you are going to suicide, do it. If you can't do it, then turn around and move on.
Those who endorse that they are going to suicide are just putting up a show.
Meh, I, as a self-classified lonely person, think that attention is necessary to deal with things sometimes. I, as a self-classified weak person, can't just turn around and move on. =l
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Old 06-8-2008, 08:06 PM   #29
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Disdaining oneself is one thing, but begging for attention after some "pitiful" self proclamation is a whole new load of injustice.

This is only a matter of opinions, seeing how the internet is saturated by people who find merit receiving the condolences of others.

No offense intended.
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Old 06-8-2008, 08:47 PM   #30
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Suicide isn't something anyone should do. It's like euthanasia, but you're doing it to yourself. There might be some kind of turning point in your life that might change your mind on suicide. If you ever feel pain, there are many solutions, such as optimism.

I'm pretty sure everyone here felt suicidal at least once in their life. I did as well, but I gave myself a second chance. Also, because of my own fear of death.

For me, my main reason why I may feel suicidal is because of reality and corruption in this world that avoids perfection in this world. It's what everyone wants, and would love to reject reality and stay in their own utopia. We have to understand that this will never happen. We have to deal with our emotions and think of other solutions based on our morals.
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Old 06-8-2008, 09:35 PM   #31
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Sorry if I'm late but I would like to have some input on this. Happiness is relative, this is why the elite still kill themselves but starving Ethiopian orphans don't. We live in a world with our own standards and if your suicidal just take a look at people worse off than you. Just being alive is a miracle and something to embrace.

We all go through bad pages in our life and others have dark chapters and I for one have had one. Through grades 4-7 my life sucked, I had no friends I liked due to I wasted my younger years playing games and doing nothing but that...I developed no social skills. In grade 8 (new school) I was so used to being a loaner I still didn't have any friends. Through those times I was depressed and I look back now and I should have been depressed according to my current standards but I'm happy now.

Things change but that isn't even whats important. The thing most important to keep in mind is happiness is relative and no matter how ****ed up you think your life is it's just your standards. Look at just what life is and understand what it is.

Another helpful thing is to try your best to surround yourself with happy things. I have a friend who cuts himself and he listens to a lot of depressing emo screamo trash garbage. I can see that it is a catalyst in his depression. I find listening to Euro Trance really does make me happy. It takes a lot to anger me but one day two guys pushed me over the limit and it turned into two separate fights with the both of them. When I'm angry I'm REALLY angry but after only about 10 minutes of listening to nice happy music I was calm enough to calmly talk to the principle and I felt like as if nothing has happened at all. If you want to see what I listen to (or just want to ask me anything else) give me a PM or contact me any other way.

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Old 06-9-2008, 12:11 AM   #32
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Old 06-9-2008, 12:23 AM   #33
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I think everyone, at some point, experiences a low that is so stressful and depressing that they consider suicide in some form. Those who actually do it can sometimes seem like the happiest people you know, however. It's a very counterintuitive thing.

Actually hearing about a suicide though always breaks my heart. There's just so much help out there and so many people who are willing to listen and truly be sympathetic. Nobody should be alone in this world, really. Suicide is a really selfish thing to do, since it doesn't only affect YOU. You leave behind so much damage to those who love you. There's always help... if you're ever contemplating suicide, always seek help. Most problems are temporary -- even the ones you may feel are permanent. Sometimes people just don't know what to do or what questions to ask, which is why seeking professional help, or even just talking to a good, trusted friend can do wonders.

There was a short period where I contemplated suicide myself. But then I learned to love myself. Perhaps I overcompensated. But hot damn, I'm staying here as long as my body is willing.






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I guess I should share something. I have only told one person about this before in my life, but I hope this story helps at least one other out there. There was a time when I actually attempted suicide. It was shortly after my own father died. It was during the most awful time -- I had a family to keep together emotionally, 15 colleges to apply to, a valedictorian status to uphold, a dwindling money supply, diminished health, frequent breakdowns, a feeling of loneliness, strained relationships... things were really hard. I felt that what had happened was so permanent... and in a way, it was. I felt that the difficulties that arose were insurmountable. I went out on the back balcony at my house on the upper level, and positioned myself on the outside of the wooden frame, and was ready to just let go and fall like 3 stories.

I was extremely close to actually letting go about 10 or 11 times while I was up there. My heart starts racing when I think about how close I was. I had to remember that killing myself would result in yet another loss to my family, and I know my father would have not wanted for us to self-destruct and fall apart as a family like that. I also had to remind myself about my positive attributes, friends, and the fact that I'd probably have a bright future ahead of me. All of this struggled against thoughts of hopelessness, failure, and irrevocable damage to the family. There was indeed a long period of depression, but sometimes you have to let logic overtake pure emotion as best you can.

Even though my father's death is permanent (he's never going to come back no matter how much I wish for it), it doesn't mean I can't live a good life. I've since come to learn that although my family has forever changed, and that we've all changed as individuals, we're still capable of being healthy emotionally. I managed to stick with school, get admitted to most of my colleges (all but one what the fsck), emerge valedictorian, make some great friends, and I had a ton of fun getting out more and experiencing the world. I traveled, made memories, worked hard, partied hard, tried new things... I don't regret any of it for a second. I am so grateful that I chose not to take my own life that day because so many good things have happened as a result of a better attitude. You're in control of your life, and if something isn't going your way, do what you can do change it. If you don't know how, ask. There are so many options out there -- you just need to reach out for them.

Even though I still mourn my losses and feel sadness for what has happened, and oftentimes feel stressed out, it's always useful to remember that life's a gift, and there's no guarantee that we have anything more than that. I just heard this from Kung Fu Panda today, but I thought it was a brilliant quote: "The past is history, the future is a mystery, but today is a gift -- that's why they call it the present." Take some time to really just relax and look at the sky sometime. We're alive in a very exciting era in history, and there's so much beauty around us in so many different forms. Why would we ever choose to remove ourselves from it? There are always problems, but there are always ways to change and adapt as well.

So many people hold an incredible amount power over their own lives and don't even really understand how to harness it. It's just that nobody's really ever told them how.

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Old 06-9-2008, 12:32 AM   #34
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My respect for you has gone up Rubix. I'm glad people here are being sympathetic to one another.
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Old 06-9-2008, 12:38 AM   #35
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If only the internet were real. If only living on the internet meant living reality.

Is what I usually wish for. I don't find sympathy outside my house. Ever.
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Ah, thanks for the insight, MrRubix. And I'm sorry to hear about your tough situation back then.
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This is going to sound harsh, but most of the kids on here dont really know anything about living life yet and they are already willing to kill themselves.

Im sorry, but if you think that having no friends in school, having stupid teachers, thinking that life sucks before your 20 since it's boring, and realizing that your first 4 girlfriends didnt really love you are reasons to kill yourselve then you need to grow up and taste LIFE before you think about DEATH.
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Just curious. Does anyone think someone has committed suicide on a whim. Just decided then and there to do it and then did it?
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Something that always helps me whenever I am feeling lonely or suicidal is the thought that other people have felt this way, too. There is probably someone in the world feeling the same way at this exact moment. It helps me to not feel alone when I know that there are others in the same boat, and if they can get through it, I can too.
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