Japanese

[SethSquall]

Yea I'm doing GCSE Japanese and I have the test in like 2 months. I need to revise a lot more.

[jimerax]

Originally Posted by Nyokou

D. カーテん = kaaten = cotton

wrong

[Gameo]

Konichiwa is used mostly in the afternoon, yes, but in the morning you would say "Ohaio", or "Ohaio koseimas" to be polite.

[SethSquall]

Originally Posted by Gameo

Konichiwa is used mostly in the afternoon, yes, but in the morning you would say "Ohaio", or "Ohaio koseimas" to be polite.

Ohayou gozaimasu*

おはようございます

[Relambrien]

This is going to be a really stupid question, but what do you guys use to type Japanese characters? I can see them correctly, so it's not like I don't have the proper language packs or anything. I'm just curious to know how you actually go about inputting the characters.

I'm assuming you're using something similar to how most Japanese computers work, where you type in Western characters and a program converts them to their hiragana equivalent.

[SethSquall]

Eeerrrm. Like, you have to add it. If you can see the characters then I guess you have what you need.

Go to control panel > Regional and Language Settings > Keyboard and Languages > Keyboard > Add > Then select Japanese.

This is for Vista now mind. If you have XP or whatnot it should be similar anyway, you go into control panel.

[omgitznpv]

Originally Posted by Relambrien

This is going to be a really stupid question, but what do you guys use to type Japanese characters? I can see them correctly, so it's not like I don't have the proper language packs or anything. I'm just curious to know how you actually go about inputting the characters.

I'm assuming you're using something similar to how most Japanese computers work, where you type in Western characters and a program converts them to their hiragana equivalent.

If you're using Windows XP or something, go to control panel, go to date, time, language whatever, go to add other languages, click details under the text services and input languages, click the add button, and select Japanese.

i think~

I type the western characters and it automatically converts to Hiragana; Katakana characters have assigned keys for me

[Relambrien]

Hmm. Wow, for once Windows actually pulls through; I never expected they would have bothered to put anything like this in there automatically.

EDIT: lol figures. Japanese wasn't selectable so I checked the box for East Asian languages in the previous dialog, and turns out I need my XP installation disk. Well, whatever, I'll do that later. But what I really found interesting was this: one of the selectable languages was "Afrikaans."

[Nyokou]

Originally Posted by jimerax

wrong

Yeah, thanks for correcting me.

Originally Posted by dag12

looks good except for this one... should be エレベーター

Thanks. :3

[Dimitri13]

Originally Posted by Gameo

Konichiwa is used mostly in the afternoon, yes, but in the morning you would say "Ohaio", or "Ohaio koseimas" to be polite.

Konnichiwa*

Ohayoo*

Ohayoo gozaimasu*

[Silvuh]

If カ一テン is wrong for "cotton", what is it supposed to be, then? コットン?
They go by the spelling instead of the pronunciation sometimes...
Oh, and are there Japanese words for those words on Nyokou's list back there, and are they more or less common than the imported word?

Originally Posted by Dimitri13

Konnichiwa*

Kon'nichiwa* Without the apostrophe in the transliteration, it would be こっにちは instead of こんにちは, right?

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Silvuh

If カ一テン is wrong for "cotton", what is it supposed to be, then? コットン?
They go by the spelling instead of the pronunciation sometimes...
Oh, and are there Japanese words for those words on Nyokou's list back there, and are they more or less common than the imported word?

momen is what I learned. Not sure what the kana is on it, since it was a very long time ago and we only used romaji at that time because my teacher was rather incompetent as far as Japanese is concerned.

Kon'nichiwa* Without the apostrophe in the transliteration, it would be こっにちは instead of こんにちは, right?

No. It's not a double consonant sound. It is two connected things: "kon", meaning basically "this", and "nichi" being "day".

[Silvuh]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

No. It's not a double consonant sound. It is two connected things: "kon", meaning basically "this", and "nichi" being "day".

Yeah, I know that, which is why I was wondering if transliterations require apostrophes when it's not a double consonant.
(I probably could have worded that sentence better, but, yeah...)

konnichiwa = こっにちは
kon'nichiwa = こんにちは
?

P.S.
Oh, also cases like
nyu = にゅ
n'yu = んゆ

[SethSquall]

Never heard or seen n'yu. Can you give me an example of where I'd see it?

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by SethSquall

Never heard or seen n'yu. Can you give me an example of where I'd see it?

It would probably only come up in the instance of two particles/words coming together.

And if what you're asking is if there is a difference, yes there is, and yes that is the way it should be denoted in romaji. Am I missing something here?

[Silvuh]

Well, it was just an example of where the apostrophe would make a difference. I didn't have a word including "n'yu" in mind or anything.

But now that I think about it, there is くんよみ, kun'yomi.

If the answer to "Is kon'nichiwa the proper transliteration of こんにちは?" is "Yes", then I don't think we're missing anything here. Sorry for being confusing and such.

"I just had a thought" edit:
Or would kon'nichi wa be better? Because the particle isn't part of the word... And I'm assuming you transliterate particles to their pronunciations, not the characters. ... Are there particles that have readings different from the character other than は and へ?

[dag12]

I learned Romaji for ん to be "nn"...
so I've always thought that こんにちは would be konnnichiha, as awkward as the triple n might be.

[Gundam-Dude]

Kinni ta! Uchi ni ikite imotou fakku ****e ie.

[Sunako_Nakahara_Girl]

Originally Posted by SethSquall

Yea I'm doing GCSE Japanese and I have the test in like 2 months. I need to revise a lot more.

What's GCSE.?


[Edit] I corected/added more stuff.

[Silvuh]

Originally Posted by Sunako_Nakahara_Girl

What's GCSE?

General Certificate of Secondary Education. Some British thing... so I can't really go in to detail. (I didn't really need to respond to that question, but, eh.)

Originally Posted by Sunako_Nakahara_Girl

ち --> ？じ？
つ --> ？づ/ず？
し --> ？

ぢ, づ, and じ. The pairs are transliterated the same, but they are not interchangeable.

Ryuu　りゅう

Shouldn't you just have "Ryu りゅ" there?
And you skipped the pya, pyu, and pyo.
You might want to note that what looks like quotation marks is called dakuten, and the little circle is a maru, or handakuten (which just means "maru mark").
There are some obsolete Kana that you don't need to note, but here are those Hiragana anyway. ゐ, and ゑ. "wi" and "we", respecitvely.

You skipped the Kanji for ten (十). And instead of wasting another twenty lines, you could just put the Kanji next to the hiragana.

おはよございます - ohayo gozaimasu - Good Morning.

You still haven't added the needed "u" to complete "ohayou".

こんにちわ - Konnichiwa - Good After Noon

Forgot to change that "wa" to the particle "wa".

おうちo u chi - Home

Still haven't taken the unneeded "o" out (or remove the space between "u" and "chi").

あお - ao - Blue
あか - aka - Red

Another something left unfixed. -い　for the adjective, -いろ/色 for the noun.

English – erigo- えいご 　英語

Forgot to take the "r" out of the transliteration.

Father(when referring to someone elses father) – Otou-san 　おとうさｎ
Mother(when referring to someone elses mother) – Okaasan –　おかあさｎ

Should be "else's". Don't see why you have a hyphen in only one transliteration. Consistency error. And the "n"s on the end aren't hiragana.

Desk – tsu kue –　つくえ

No need for the space in the transliteration.

Mt.fuji – Fujisan-　ふじさｎ

Not the hiragana "n" again.

True/really? – hontou –　ほんとう

For some reason, I remember hearing (when people say, "really?") "hontou ni". I think that's, like, the adverb form or something.

Wait a minute – Cho to ma te –ちょつとまて

Should be ちょっとまって, and you already had that earlier in your list, anyway.
You could note that まって comes from the verb まつ/まちます, "to wait". Might wait 'till you go in to dictionary- and te-form to note that, though.

What is your phone number? – denwabangouwa nan desuka? –　でんわばんごうわなんですか？

Forgot to use the particle "wa" again.
denwabangou wa nan desu ka? - でんわばんごうはなんですか。 / 電話番号は何ですか。 I don't think you need the question mark in polite form because the か signifies that it's a question. Or maybe you do. I don't know.

Boy – otoko no go - 男の子

It's actually "otoko no ko".
And if you're going to have "man" and "boy", you may as well have "woman" and girl", 女の人 (on'na no hito) and 女の子 (on'na no ko), respectively.

(You don't need to note the following Kanji, but I thought I'd post about them, anyway.)

Some more notable Kanji include the days of the week. Also note the meaning of the first kanji (and the reading of said Kanji alone).
月曜日 getsuyoubi, Monday (Moon: つき)
火曜日 kayoubi, Tuesday (Fire: ひ)
水曜日 suiyoubi, Wednesday (Water: みず)
木曜日 mokuyoubi, Thursday (Wood: か)
金曜日 kin'youbi, Friday (Gold: きん)
土曜日 doyoubi, Saturday (Earth: つち)
日曜日 nichiyoubi, Sunday (Sun: ひ)

More low-level Kanji include
天　てん, ten, heaven
山　やま, yama, mountain
川　かわ, kawa, river
町　まち, machi, town
学校　がっこう gakkou, school
手　て, te, hand
本　ほん, hon, book
年　ねん, nen, year
口　くち, kuchi, mouth
力　ちから, chikara, power

Oh, and it's "Kanji". Not "Kanji's" or "Kanjis".