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Old 03-13-2008, 06:55 PM   #101
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This was pretty helpful. I want to learn japanese, and I think this would be good to get me started. I don't see why everyone's arguing and stuff.

By the way, is there any specific rule for pronouncing a single u at the end/middle of a word?
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:46 PM   #102
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No one is arguing in a bad way. They're just improving each other's grammatical errors and the such. Maybe you should actually read.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:36 PM   #103
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i used katakana for the main reason that i like the way it looks more.
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my name is josh ginoza.
well, I got it right away since I can read kana. I figured it was your name since, katakana is used for foreign words and names mostly. I dont really need 100 creds tho.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:54 PM   #104
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This was pretty helpful. I want to learn japanese, and I think this would be good to get me started. I don't see why everyone's arguing and stuff.

By the way, is there any specific rule for pronouncing a single u at the end/middle of a word?
You extend the 'oh' sound if there's an extra u at the end.
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:56 PM   #105
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i just love japan and everything with it. Mangas,language,girls,sushi, and cool haircuts
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:37 AM   #106
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This was pretty helpful. I want to learn japanese, and I think this would be good to get me started. I don't see why everyone's arguing and stuff.

By the way, is there any specific rule for pronouncing a single u at the end/middle of a word?
U's are pronounced like the "oo" in "food." At the end of the word, I think if the word ends in "su," a lot of times it's slurred out. I think that's why a lot of katakana forms of English words end in "su" when the English version ends in "s."

But you'd probably have to get someone else's verification on all of this; I hardly care about Japanese.

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i just love japan and everything with it. Mangas,language,girls,sushi, and cool haircuts
Uhhh, I really doubt you've been to Japan and thus cannot make those judgments for yourself.

Although, as a economics lover, I will admit that they have cool, almost magical hair.
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:17 AM   #107
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What Mr Carbo said. Also:
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The correct pluralization of the word "manga" is "manga". If you want to use an S, just be a nonweeaboo and say "comics" or if you want to be specific, "Japanese comics", although, if you just said "comics" we would have already known you meant Japanese comics.
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Old 03-14-2008, 02:16 AM   #108
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well, I skimmed through the thread, and I'm not sure if these have been noted already or not, but I'll just post the mistakes that I find in the OP...

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Usually a Japanese person doesn’t learn kanji till they get in high school.
uh... I'm Japanese, and we started learning kanji from first grade or even kindergarden (幼稚園), so not sure where you got that...

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おはよございます - ohayo gozaimasu - Good Morning.
さよなら - Sayonara - Good-bye( this is usually said to teachers and people older than yourself and it also shows that you have respect. )
おはよございます -> おはようございます
ohayo -> ohayou
さよなら -> さようなら
Sayonara -> sayounara
(although the う sound is often slurred in this case)

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こんにちわ - Konnichiwa - Good After Noon
こんばんは - Konbanwa - Good evening
shouldn't the わ be a は?
like, こんにちは(どうですか?) [How is your day?]
also, romaji for は is technically ha.

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English – erigo- えりご
eigo - えいご - 英語, not erigo

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Man – yotoko no hito - よとこのひと 
otoko no hito - おとこのひと - 男の人

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I(females) – Watashi – わたし
I would disagree... both males and females use this.
More like atashi - あたし

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I(males) – Boku – ぼく
you ight want to add ore - おれ - 俺 too.

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I’d like to introduce my family. – watashi no kazokuwo shokaishi masu.- わたしのかぞくをしょかいします。
kazokuwo -> kazokuho (technically)
shokai -> shoukai - しょうかい - 紹介

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How many people do you have in you family? – nannin kazoku desu ka? – なんいんかぞくですか?
なんいん-> なんにん


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My parents love music. – Rioshin wa ongan ko gadaisuki desu. – りおしんわおんがんこがだいすきです。
Rioshin wa ongan ko gadaisuki desu. -> Ryoushin ha ongakuga daisuki desu.
りおしんわおんがんこがだいすきです。-> りょうしんはおんがくがだいすきです。

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My older brother loves chocolate. Onni-chan wa cho koreto gadaisuki desu. – おんいちゃんはチョコレートがだいすきです。
Onni-chan wa cho koreto gadaisuki desu. -> Onii-chan ha chokore-toga daisuki desu.
おんいちゃんはチョコレートがだいすきです。-> おにいちゃんはチョコレートがだいすきです。

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I don’t like……. Very much. – [something you don’t like] ga amari sukigenai. – があまりすきげない(just add what ever you don’t like to the front of the sentence)
sukigenai -> sukijyanai, sukidehanai
すきげない -> すきじゃない, すきではない

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How many people? – nanin – なにん?
nanin -> nannin
なにん?-> なんにん?

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きょのことば(- kyo no kotoba-word of the day):
きょのことば -> きょうのことば
kyo -> kyou

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Man – yotoko no hito - 予とごの人
Boy – yotoko no go - 予とこの子
yotoko no hito -> otoko no hito
予とごの人 -> 男の人
yotoko no ko -> otoko no ko
予とこの子 -> 男の子

there, that's all I could find for now. Also, my birthday is on_______ is probably the most natural if it's: 私の誕生日は__月____日です。
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:56 AM   #109
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I have a question.

Would it be acceptable to say...

Watashi wa Iruse desu.

When introducing yourself? Or do you have to use 'namae'? Would you only say that in certain situations?
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:08 AM   #110
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You're saying "I am Iruse" yes.

I only wanted to say "watashi no namae ____ desu" because that is "my name is ____" and I think that sounds a lot better than "I am ____" to introduce yourself.

If someone is asking your name you could always just say "____ desu" though.

I think all of the above is right. I would wait for confirmation first though.
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:29 AM   #111
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Their should be more threads for learnging a different language. Two thumbs up.
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:57 AM   #112
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I would disagree... both males and females use [私].
Yeah, but it's not the most masculine choice for males either.

And on the topic of pronouns referring to the self, particularly 俺-- I've never liked it. Something about it just strikes me as wrong. Could it maybe be that it's an especially informal word? Maybe it's just that the initial o at the beginning reminds me of the honorific o and I try to take the humbleness of avoiding its use when referring to self seriously.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:10 PM   #113
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That kanji is "ore", right? (If that's right, it's not that I knew or anything - I looked it up.)

What's the difference between it and watashi?

And I didn't realize watashi wasn't very masculine... what other words are there for "I" or "me"?
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Watashi is generally used for women referring to themselves. Men can use the term watashi as a symbolism of higher power. Most males however, use ore.
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Hahah. I never heard of that before, cool I'll have to ask my teacher about it Monday.
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Just wondering... if this is right. >_> I might be wrong on some of the english, rofl.

A. アイスクリーム = aisukuriimu = ice cream
B. エレベイター = erebeitaa = elevator
C. ラジオ = rajio = radio
D. カーテん = kaaten = cotton
E. マネージャー = maneejaa = manager
F. オーケストラ = ookesutora = orchestra
G. コーヒー = koohii = coffee
H. タオル = taoru = towel
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Nyo: Yes.

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Their should be more threads for learnging a different language. Two thumbs up.
Why? There's a thread for learning English, but apparently no one reads it..
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Haha, seriously? That makes me happy. I had a bit of trouble figuring out what koohii and kaaten were, although I'm still a bit 'eh' about my English translation for them. This thread inspired me to start learning... although it's a pretty slow process for me. I just memorized 2 columns of the first hiragana chart (vowels and k-vowels) So that's 10... Although I got the wrong symbol for ko at first, so I was memorizing the wrong one for a while, but oh well.

I've also got some pretty basic rules down, so I'm good. omgitznpv recommended a good website to help me learn, and so far it looks great. It also makes a really good point, imo.
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/me is in Japanese 2 this year. Aced Japanese 1 (If you don't, you deserve to die in a fire).

I was hoping to get into AP Japanese next year.. But they're kicking me out because I'm 18 and haven't graduated yet. Fkin school system. Now I have to pay COLLEGE prices to get my high school credits at a Community College. But the good thing is, I only need a few credits, so I can take some regular College courses (going to be some pre-requisites).

But yeah. We're learning more and more kanji every day, which is a challenge for a lot of people, but I seem to be breezing by. Stroke order is pretty confusing at times. And learning which of the different ones to use, like getsu/gatsu, hyaku/byaku/pyaku, etc.
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B. エレベイター = erebeitaa = elevator
looks good except for this one... should be エレベーター
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