jTWG XLI: shift_werewolfgame

[heavylee]

safety on rzr, as of right now I am trying to make a decision on who to trust. If you have any info on anyone, please let me know, but I do not want to see anyone die right yet.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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From random selection between dooey100 and scorpio1690, dooey100 has been chosen to replace xinpig.

Day continues as normal.
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[chris301]

ughhh

[travman301]

Chris, you can't edit your posts.

[chris301]

sorry about the edit.....im locked it with FIDO

[chris301]

nevermind that post....im sorry travis...nothing personal but im gonna have to lock in with you as a wolf

TRAVMAN

[chris301]

lol omg...this is starting to get very interesting, i hate doing investigation, because it just make me want to change my answer...i know people are gonna hate me for changing it once again but here i go....

FIDO



THAT WAS MY LAST ONE!!! IM SERIOUS THIS TIME!!!

[Litodude]

chris, please get on AIM.

[Litodude]

Well, in anycase, if you're not going to be wavering between trav and fido, do NOT get manipulated by trav. Although he is your cousin, you cannot be swayed by personal relationships outside of the game.

And think about it in another perspective: If we receive two more votes on trav, we will be able to find out whether he has been lying or not. Also consider player experience: even if both fido and trav are wolves, wouldn't you want to get rid of the more experienced player? This would cause an even greater disadvantage for the wolves - losing a very adept player.

[Xception704]

Hmmm.

So is Lito just out to get Trav with the added bonus of eliminating a human, or is Trav the wolf trying to get Lito eliminated?


Damn this is some serious stuff.

I'm voting Trav.

[Litodude]

1 more for insta

truth will be told

[Litodude]

I received this AIM conversation from Xception. You do NOT have to read the whole thing if you wish not to. I will give analysis on each part in the ending.

RBennie362 (9:34:08 PM): hey
jungmour2009 (9:34:43 PM): hi
jungmour2009 (9:34:49 PM): jTWG I'm assuming?
RBennie362 (9:34:52 PM): Yeah
RBennie362 (9:34:56 PM): you need to vote
jungmour2009 (9:34:57 PM): cool
jungmour2009 (9:35:06 PM): link me .. FFR has been incredibly retarded for me
RBennie362 (9:35:17 PM): http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=87630
RBennie362 (9:35:30 PM): basically lito is trying to get me lynched for no reason
RBennie362 (9:35:40 PM): well cause jokim claimed morph
RBennie362 (9:35:44 PM): which isnt true
RBennie362 (9:36:13 PM): so basically its me vs him
RBennie362 (9:36:22 PM): hooch told me to vote for fido
RBennie362 (9:36:23 PM): so i did
RBennie362 (9:37:29 PM): and it blew up into a huge mess
RBennie362 (9:40:25 PM): So whatcha gonna do?
jungmour2009 (9:40:30 PM): why shouldn't I vote for you?
RBennie362 (9:40:33 PM): cause i got to get going
RBennie362 (9:40:37 PM): because lito is confised
RBennie362 (9:40:41 PM): confused*
jungmour2009 (9:40:49 PM): his post with the AIM conversations is persuasive
RBennie362 (9:40:55 PM): Ive known the masons since the first day
RBennie362 (9:41:06 PM): If i were a wolf i would have killed them by now
jungmour2009 (9:41:18 PM): none of them are dead right?
RBennie362 (9:41:21 PM): no
jungmour2009 (9:41:27 PM): how many are dead?
RBennie362 (9:41:33 PM): Hoochan killed himself to make this possible
RBennie362 (9:41:41 PM): and no one will take advantage of it
RBennie362 (9:41:43 PM): and none
RBennie362 (9:42:08 PM): I think I know why lito is so against me too
jungmour2009 (9:42:30 PM): why?
RBennie362 (9:42:39 PM): I made this awsome plan with him the first day
RBennie362 (9:42:49 PM): and he got all pissy because he thinks i backed out of it
RBennie362 (9:43:23 PM): I just dont understand you people
RBennie362 (9:43:31 PM): Hoochan specifically told me
RBennie362 (9:43:35 PM): if I die
RBennie362 (9:43:39 PM): then vote out fido
RBennie362 (9:43:54 PM): i wonder why lito is protecting him to the extent he is
RBennie362 (9:44:05 PM): Besides
RBennie362 (9:44:16 PM): We will find out he is a wolf the second he is lynched
RBennie362 (9:44:36 PM): cardflipping is on
jungmour2009 (9:44:44 PM): wtf is cardflipping
jungmour2009 (9:44:49 PM): where you can just leave it to chance?
RBennie362 (9:44:53 PM): no
RBennie362 (9:45:10 PM): cardflipping reveals the persons role when they die
jungmour2009 (9:45:18 PM): Oh yeah. Duh.
RBennie362 (9:45:25 PM): Ill tell you what
jungmour2009 (9:45:31 PM): It makes more sense for you to die
jungmour2009 (9:45:32 PM): If you die
RBennie362 (9:45:34 PM): If fido isnt a wolf
jungmour2009 (9:45:35 PM): then Lito and fido
jungmour2009 (9:45:37 PM): become wolves
RBennie362 (9:45:44 PM): Then you can lynch me
RBennie362 (9:45:45 PM): no
RBennie362 (9:45:48 PM): that doesnt work
RBennie362 (9:45:53 PM): lito is a mason
jungmour2009 (9:46:04 PM): Then why would lito protect fido?
RBennie362 (9:46:08 PM): Im not sure
RBennie362 (9:46:34 PM): I simply trust hoochan more than lito at this point
RBennie362 (9:47:21 PM): I mean
RBennie362 (9:47:27 PM): hoochan was proven human
RBennie362 (9:47:33 PM): why would he tell me to lynch someone
jungmour2009 (9:47:34 PM): Yeah
RBennie362 (9:47:37 PM): if they werent human
jungmour2009 (9:47:39 PM): Just to get things going
RBennie362 (9:47:41 PM): that makes no sense
jungmour2009 (9:47:49 PM): how did he get "concerte proof" that fido was a wolf?
RBennie362 (9:47:51 PM): if cardflipping wasnt on
jungmour2009 (9:47:53 PM): concrete*
RBennie362 (9:47:55 PM): i wouldnt care
RBennie362 (9:48:02 PM): he told fido he was teh morph
RBennie362 (9:48:09 PM): and he ended up dead
jungmour2009 (9:48:29 PM): so if Lito knows this, he wouldn't have any reason to protect fido
RBennie362 (9:48:41 PM): Lol, i wish that was the case
RBennie362 (9:48:45 PM): I told this all to lito
RBennie362 (9:48:49 PM): and he flipped out on me
RBennie362 (9:48:56 PM): and thats when he started to attack me
jungmour2009 (9:49:01 PM): well I already posted ... sorry buddy
RBennie362 (9:49:02 PM): He must of misunderstood me
RBennie362 (9:49:13 PM): but wont take my IM;s
RBennie362 (9:49:18 PM): and you can change your votes
RBennie362 (9:51:49 PM): You know whats wierd
RBennie362 (9:52:38 PM): Fido wont even talk to me
RBennie362 (9:54:26 PM): FINE
RBennie362 (9:54:31 PM): I will tell you the truth
RBennie362 (9:54:38 PM): But if I use my side mission on you
RBennie362 (9:54:42 PM): You cant tell anyone
jungmour2009 (9:55:52 PM): =\
RBennie362 (9:55:52 PM): hello?
jungmour2009 (9:55:56 PM): fine
jungmour2009 (9:56:18 PM): it better be something insane to change my vote
RBennie362 (9:56:34 PM): I didnt want to pull this out this early
RBennie362 (9:56:39 PM): but it looks like I have to
RBennie362 (9:56:49 PM): and i think I know why lito is so against me
RBennie362 (9:56:59 PM): In every TWG
RBennie362 (9:57:07 PM): there are 2 players who have side missions
RBennie362 (9:57:52 PM): these two players have a special ability
RBennie362 (9:57:55 PM): (one time)
RBennie362 (9:58:06 PM): to help them get through this mission
RBennie362 (9:58:25 PM): I am one of the two in this game that has a sidemission
RBennie362 (9:58:26 PM): my mission
jungmour2009 (9:58:29 PM): k ...
RBennie362 (9:58:30 PM): is to kill fido
RBennie362 (9:58:36 PM): And i suspect
RBennie362 (9:58:44 PM): that lito has the sidemission to keep him alive
RBennie362 (9:59:01 PM): that would explain why hes fighting so hard to keep him alive for no reason
RBennie362 (9:59:08 PM): What I am offering to you
RBennie362 (9:59:12 PM): Is my power
RBennie362 (9:59:15 PM): for your vote
RBennie362 (9:59:24 PM): I can protect you from one wolfing in the game
RBennie362 (9:59:30 PM): I was going to use it on myself
RBennie362 (9:59:46 PM): but desperate times call for desperate measures
RBennie362 (9:59:55 PM): do we have a deal?
RBennie362 (10:00:06 PM): besides we can catch the other wolves
RBennie362 (10:00:17 PM): one human out of 12 isnt going to do much
RBennie362 (10:00:26 PM): and you can be protected
RBennie362 (10:00:28 PM): if they attack you
RBennie362 (10:00:33 PM): it would save a wolfing anyways
RBennie362 (10:00:38 PM): so its like the same thing
jungmour2009 (10:01:37 PM): how does the protection work?
jungmour2009 (10:01:40 PM): you just pick a random night?
jungmour2009 (10:01:44 PM): or what?
RBennie362 (10:01:49 PM): basically I send in a PM to BDN
RBennie362 (10:01:50 PM): and say
RBennie362 (10:02:00 PM): protect "person A" from one wolfing
RBennie362 (10:02:12 PM): and it goes into effect for the rest of the game
RBennie362 (10:02:28 PM): Although if lito wins I won't get my ability
jungmour2009 (10:02:30 PM): hmmm
jungmour2009 (10:02:41 PM): send the PM and screenshot it
jungmour2009 (10:02:48 PM): I'll change my vote
RBennie362 (10:02:49 PM): thats against the rules
RBennie362 (10:02:55 PM): you cant SS stuff
RBennie362 (10:03:06 PM): or do anything with your PM
RBennie362 (10:03:13 PM): I cant really break my word anyways
jungmour2009 (10:03:14 PM): then my vote stays, sorry
RBennie362 (10:03:21 PM): havent you played one of these before
RBennie362 (10:03:39 PM): If i make a side-mission deal


okay here's the analysis:

RBennie362 (9:35:30 PM): basically lito is trying to get me lynched for no reason
RBennie362 (9:35:40 PM): well cause jokim claimed morph
RBennie362 (9:35:44 PM): which isnt true
RBennie362 (9:36:13 PM): so basically its me vs him

??? I'm confused on why you believe jokim is the Morph. If I read the thread correctly, never did jokim come out as the Morph. You're just blindly assuming it's him since he was the only other person online when we were talking last night. IN FACT, I wasn't aware on who the Morph was until I came online to FF at school today.


RBennie362 (9:36:22 PM): hooch told me to vote for fido
RBennie362 (9:36:23 PM): so i did
RBennie362 (9:37:29 PM): and it blew up into a huge mess

hooch didn't say to vote for fido. He suggested that fido might be a wolf. And didn't you tell me that you made up that convo?


RBennie362 (9:40:25 PM): So whatcha gonna do?
jungmour2009 (9:40:30 PM): why shouldn't I vote for you?
RBennie362 (9:40:33 PM): cause i got to get going
RBennie362 (9:40:37 PM): because lito is confised
RBennie362 (9:40:41 PM): confused*
jungmour2009 (9:40:49 PM): his post with the AIM conversations is persuasive
RBennie362 (9:40:55 PM): Ive known the masons since the first day
RBennie362 (9:41:06 PM): If i were a wolf i would have killed them by now

I'm not confused. Second, I already explained why you kept me alive. And also, you did not know who the masons were until hoochan had died.


RBennie362 (9:41:33 PM): Hoochan killed himself to make this possible
RBennie362 (9:41:41 PM): and no one will take advantage of it
RBennie362 (9:41:43 PM): and none
RBennie362 (9:42:08 PM): I think I know why lito is so against me too

hooch killed himself? I'm sorry, but I don't believe that bull****. Again, you made up the conversation up, right? Also, I said in like the second page of this thread, I'm not against you personally. I never am.

jungmour2009 (9:42:30 PM): why?
RBennie362 (9:42:39 PM): I made this awsome plan with him the first day
RBennie362 (9:42:49 PM): and he got all pissy because he thinks i backed out of it
RBennie362 (9:43:23 PM): I just dont understand you people

What plan? You didn't tell me of any "plan." Oh you mean how you would pretend to "seer" someone using the Morph's power, and claim to be Morph? Oh, the one where only the newbs would fall for? Great plan.

RBennie362 (9:43:31 PM): Hoochan specifically told me
RBennie362 (9:43:35 PM): if I die
RBennie362 (9:43:39 PM): then vote out fido
RBennie362 (9:43:54 PM): i wonder why lito is protecting him to the extent he is

Fake conversation. I'm not protecting him. I said this like 12000 times: if you're cardflipped human, then we kill fido as well.


RBennie362 (9:45:25 PM): Ill tell you what
jungmour2009 (9:45:31 PM): It makes more sense for you to die
jungmour2009 (9:45:32 PM): If you die
RBennie362 (9:45:34 PM): If fido isnt a wolf
jungmour2009 (9:45:35 PM): then Lito and fido
jungmour2009 (9:45:37 PM): become wolves
RBennie362 (9:45:44 PM): Then you can lynch me

So now you're trying to get votes swayed to fido in order to live for on more night? Xception is right, it does make more sense for you to die.


RBennie362 (9:48:02 PM): he told fido he was teh morph
RBennie362 (9:48:09 PM): and he ended up dead
jungmour2009 (9:48:29 PM): so if Lito knows this, he wouldn't have any reason to protect fido
RBennie362 (9:48:41 PM): Lol, i wish that was the case
RBennie362 (9:48:45 PM): I told this all to lito
RBennie362 (9:48:49 PM): and he flipped out on me
RBennie362 (9:48:56 PM): and thats when he started to attack me
jungmour2009 (9:49:01 PM): well I already posted ... sorry buddy

By "he" I think you mean hoochan and we already know that convo is fake (like i said a dozen times) so we can exclude that information. Apparently, you didn't tell me anything and would rather try to sway votes with the newbs toward fido. Also, I never "attacked" you. After you claimed to be seer I automatically knew you were ****ting me.


RBennie362 (9:54:31 PM): I will tell you the truth
RBennie362 (9:54:38 PM): But if I use my side mission on you
RBennie362 (9:54:42 PM): You cant tell anyone

Uh oh, here come "da truf."



RBennie362 (9:55:52 PM): hello?
jungmour2009 (9:55:56 PM): fine
jungmour2009 (9:56:18 PM): it better be something insane to change my vote
RBennie362 (9:56:34 PM): I didnt want to pull this out this early
RBennie362 (9:56:39 PM): but it looks like I have to
RBennie362 (9:56:49 PM): and i think I know why lito is so against me
RBennie362 (9:56:59 PM): In every TWG
RBennie362 (9:57:07 PM): there are 2 players who have side missions
RBennie362 (9:57:52 PM): these two players have a special ability
RBennie362 (9:57:55 PM): (one time)
RBennie362 (9:58:06 PM): to help them get through this mission
RBennie362 (9:58:25 PM): I am one of the two in this game that has a sidemission
RBennie362 (9:58:26 PM): my mission
jungmour2009 (9:58:29 PM): k ...
RBennie362 (9:58:30 PM): is to kill fido
RBennie362 (9:58:36 PM): And i suspect
RBennie362 (9:58:44 PM): that lito has the sidemission to keep him alive
RBennie362 (9:59:01 PM): that would explain why hes fighting so hard to keep him alive for no reason
RBennie362 (9:59:08 PM): What I am offering to you

Wow. Just. Wow. Nice bull****. Side mission rofl. There are no side mission. THere isn't anything except wolves kill humans, humans try to find wolves and survive. hooch just turned over in his grave and wants you to kiss his ass.

That's the end of my analysis. Also, the "plan" that travman wanted to do was involving the newer players in this jtwg. Xception, he included you as one of the newbs and though you could be easily wavered. Way to stay strong; props.


(This conversation was from last night)
RBennie362 (10:26:29 PM): i could see xinpig, possibly xception
RBennie362 (10:26:38 PM): and mabye sc falling for it
RBennie362 (10:26:41 PM): yes im a human
RBennie362 (10:26:54 PM): im not the morph if thats what you are asking
Litodude (10:27:06 PM): bah okay
RBennie362 (10:27:11 PM): anyways, back to what i was saying
Litodude (10:27:14 PM): first priority is to find them
RBennie362 (10:27:19 PM): fido being one wolf
RBennie362 (10:27:29 PM): if one of those 3 are another wolf
RBennie362 (10:27:32 PM): then thats 2
RBennie362 (10:27:39 PM): on day 1
RBennie362 (10:27:43 PM): i like those odds
RBennie362 (10:28:03 PM): Also, I would keep a tighter lease on chris
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Litodude (10:33:05 PM): juggling?
RBennie362 (10:33:13 PM): Ive talked to him a bit
RBennie362 (10:33:17 PM): seems fiarly competent
RBennie362 (10:33:23 PM): thinks you are a god at this game
RBennie362 (10:33:32 PM): fairly*
Litodude (10:33:32 PM): heh
RBennie362 (10:33:36 PM): I can try
Litodude (10:33:36 PM): i can manipulate him then
Litodude (10:33:40 PM): ill handle juggling
RBennie362 (10:33:44 PM): ok
RBennie362 (10:34:16 PM): jokim
RBennie362 (10:34:19 PM): possibly
RBennie362 (10:34:28 PM): right now hes sketchy with me

[Xception704]

Meh.



I can clarify the validity of that conversation.

[Litodude]

BUT WAIT THERES MORE er-


RBennie362 (10:23:18 PM): you*
jungmour2009 (10:25:38 PM): what
RBennie362 (10:29:29 PM): I dont want to do this
RBennie362 (10:29:39 PM): And I dont even know if its worth it
RBennie362 (10:30:44 PM): The only reason lito doesnt want you to know about the sidemissions
RBennie362 (10:30:56 PM): is because it will make him lose his sidemission
RBennie362 (10:30:58 PM): thats the truth
RBennie362 (10:31:02 PM): I can offer you
RBennie362 (10:31:17 PM): the sealing bond
RBennie362 (10:31:21 PM): and thats it
RBennie362 (10:31:28 PM): you help me win my side mission
RBennie362 (10:31:45 PM): and I am sealed from keeping my power from you
RBennie362 (10:31:51 PM): I have to post it in the thread
RBennie362 (10:32:13 PM): why in the world do you want lito to win his side mission?
RBennie362 (10:32:19 PM): what has he offered you?
RBennie362 (10:33:12 PM): ?
RBennie362 (10:33:53 PM): Xception
RBennie362 (10:34:11 PM): I cant break our deal if I post the sealing bond
RBennie362 (10:34:30 PM): Dont let lito manipulate you for his own benefit
RBennie362 (10:34:40 PM): at least if you follow me I can give you protection
jungmour2009 (10:35:09 PM): he's not manipulating me rofl
jungmour2009 (10:35:15 PM): I'm making my own decision
RBennie362 (10:35:36 PM): whatever he gave you I could probably give more
jungmour2009 (10:35:46 PM): Okay
jungmour2009 (10:35:54 PM): This isn't about giving or whatever
jungmour2009 (10:35:55 PM): I want the truth
jungmour2009 (10:36:01 PM): what proof do you have that what you say is the truth?
jungmour2009 (10:36:05 PM): I don't want ****ty logic
jungmour2009 (10:36:10 PM): I want straight facts.
jungmour2009 (10:36:12 PM): And at this point
RBennie362 (10:36:14 PM): Havent you seen post games
jungmour2009 (10:36:15 PM): you can't give that
jungmour2009 (10:36:22 PM): obviously you can't screenshot anything
RBennie362 (10:36:27 PM): I can show you old games
jungmour2009 (10:36:28 PM): so all I have is ****ty logic
jungmour2009 (10:36:33 PM): I don't want to see old games.
RBennie362 (10:36:35 PM): that prove exactly what im saying
RBennie362 (10:36:41 PM): this game is following that
RBennie362 (10:37:13 PM): http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=83925
RBennie362 (10:37:24 PM): in that game everyone had objectives
RBennie362 (10:37:33 PM): but of course thats a TWG

/facepalm

[jokim]

omg, Trav please, Vote for yourself and end this non-sense.

I just can't stop laughing XD

[dooey100]

Why do people never get replaced when they are special? Oh well, I vote Trav, although I don't want to say fido is 100% human, this seems like a Trav stunt to get fido lynched and distance himself from fido at the same time. Doesn't seem like a good plan this early in the game, so not incredibly likely, but still, look what trav just tried. =/

[dooey100]

That was kind of unclear. I mean vote fido, and clear his own name when fido is revealed wolf.

This is still unclear. If you don't get it, talk to me on AIM.

Uh-oh, is that considered breaking the swear filter? I am editing this post purely to avoid a possible ban for breaking the swear filter. I guarantee that nothing game related was changed.

[travman301]

Lol, guess wut guiz.

I R WOLF.

RAWR!!!!

I luv jTWG's. <3's

[Xception704]

Well that was obvious.

Apparently fido's been lynched though.

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by Xception704

Apparently fido's been lynched though.

Explain?