Super Smash Brothers Brawl

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by sjoecool1991

You completely misunderstood was Squeek said.
Everyone did.


Everyone here is saying that Squeek is stupid because he doesn't like wavedashing.
Everyone here is also saying Squeek is stupid because he doe not like tournament rules.

He is trying to say he is a casual gamer, and you all are saying that you can't have fun unless you wave dash/win every game.

Um no you didn't understand what he said. He said HE DOES NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WAVEDASHING. He has a problem with using it against randoms.

[sjoecool1991]

Also, I thought that this thread was for discussing SSBB.
Instead, it turned into a pointless argument bashing Squeek.
Talk about ****ing brawl, not your opinions.

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by sjoecool1991

Also, I thought that this thread was for discussing SSBB.
Instead, it turned into a pointless argument bashing Squeek.
Talk about ****ing brawl, not your opinions.

www.squeeksfansite.com

Defend him there. No one is "bashing" squeek btw.

Also

Originally Posted by l2awr

Also what do you mean I didn't make sense? Back that up. You sound like a little kid.

I'm waiting on your response.

[chemicalrabbit]

Originally Posted by sjoecool1991

Also, I thought that this thread was for discussing SSBB.
Instead, it turned into a pointless argument bashing Squeek.
Talk about ****ing brawl, not your opinions.

This is an argument. Squeek is a moderator. If he was against this argument he would've locked it already after 3-pages of arguing.

If it's a pointless argument why don't you stop posting and get off Squeek's nuts?

[sjoecool1991]

Originally Posted by chemicalrabbit

This is an argument. Squeek is a moderator. If he was against this argument he would've locked it already after 3-pages of arguing.

If it's a pointless argument why don't you stop posting and get off Squeek's nuts?

See what I mean?
That post was pointless flaming.
You just proved my point.

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by sjoecool1991

Also, I thought that this thread was for discussing SSBB.
Instead, it turned into a pointless argument bashing Squeek.
Talk about ****ing brawl, not your opinions.

This post was pointless period. Don't be a hypocrite

[chemicalrabbit]

Originally Posted by sjoecool1991

See what I mean?
That post was pointless flaming.
You just proved my point.

Flaming and arguing are two different things.

All I did was tell you to get off Squeek's nuts, meaning post your opinion, not Squeek's. All you did was quote Squeek and tell us to stop bashing him.

FLAMING: EX: You're a ****in dick you ******

ARGUING: What're you talking about? You don't understand, stop this blah blah etc etc..

[sjoecool1991]

What did you say?
Oh yeah, I ignored you, thats what I do to idiots.

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by sjoecool1991

What did you say?
Oh yeah, I ignored you, thats what I do to idiots.

Your maturity shows. You'll be better off out of this discussion.

[chemicalrabbit]

Well, I guess it's safe to talk about Brawl now.. I'm planning on getting a Japanese Wii with Brawl. Does anyone think I should just get a Wii, mod it and then get Japanese Brawl? --- or just buy a Japanese Wii with Japanese Brawl? o_0

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by chemicalrabbit

Well, I guess it's safe to talk about Brawl now.. I'm planning on getting a Japanese Wii with Brawl. Does anyone think I should just get a Wii, mod it and then get Japanese Brawl? --- or just buy a Japanese Wii with Japanese Brawl? o_0

My friends and I bought the japanese wii and brawl. If you mod your american wii your risking ****ing up your wii.

[chemicalrabbit]

Originally Posted by l2awr

My friends and I bought the japanese wii and brawl. If you mod your american wii your risking ****ing up your wii.

Yeah, that's true, but if I get the Japanese Wii I can't play American games, right?

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by chemicalrabbit

Yeah, that's true, but if I get the Japanese Wii I can't play American games, right?

Nope I don't think so. Just resell it. All I had to do is chip in 20 bucks to play until the american version came out. So I don't have to worry about any of that. It cost us about 500 dollars all together though

[chemicalrabbit]

Awesome. I'll try to get it before March, thanks, dude. =]

... where do I get it at?

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by chemicalrabbit

Awesome. I'll try to get it before March, thanks, dude. =]

lol np. When you get your Wii game with me. The more people I have to practice with the better =]

edit: EBAY lol..

[Squeek]

Lighten up, people. And stop back-and-forthing.

Jeez.

The analogy of the gun at a fist-fight is my entire point. I'd suggest you read it, because if you don't get that, then you won't understand where I'm coming from.

Originally Posted by Loyal2Death

Here is what wavedashing does: it adds another combination of things I have to account for when battling an opponent, and no matter how much any of you defend it, its an unfair advantage. The argument you will give me back is that "So and so can use wave dash against me as well, its not unfair!" It's plenty unfair. My retort (Normally) to that would be simply that it generates a whole field advantage for someone who can use it effectively. Now hear me out, what I just said proves a your point. It creates that competitive edge, but that competitive edge is just as effective as an "Outsiders" fight. If someone brings a gun to a fist fight, obviously the person with the gun has the same objective as everyone else with fists but the man holding the gun is the one with the advantage. Now... everyone could bring a gun but then its no longer a fist fight, it becomes a "who can use their advantage better than the other" which totally totally ruins the initial premise of the game.

Super Smash Brothers, to me, is a game of who can utilize every aspect of the game to the fullest. You choose to ignore items and exploit glitches. I choose to ignore glitches and utilize items. The reason I feel like my playstyle is more relevant to the style of the game is because I'm playing within the bounds of the original concept of the game. My playstyle can work against anyone (well, anyone who decides items are actually fun and leaves them in) and I will be able to win about 90% of the time. Your playstyle can work against anyone (well, anyone who doesn't complain that what you're doing is cheating, which is about 90% of the people who've never seen wavedashing before) and you'll be able to win 90% of the time.

That's the difference. If you got some random person who has played Melee and never seen a competitive match and set them against you and I in separate matches, they're more likely to complain about the result of your match rather than the result of mine.

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Lighten up, people. And stop back-and-forthing.

Jeez.

The analogy of the gun at a fist-fight is my entire point. I'd suggest you read it, because if you don't get that, then you won't understand where I'm coming from.

I understood that. I admitted it gives the person who knows how to do it an advantage. It allows them to do certain things like wave dash onto the edge to edge guard.

Knowing that, you don't think it is fair against the person ignorant of it.

Don't you think that if that opponent cared enough he would go learn how, to keep up his game? If he didn't care all that much about someone doing something he can't when he sees its an obvious advantage then he obviously doesn't care a whole lot about winning. So the winner wins and the loser loses. Both have fun, so its a win/win situation.

[chemicalrabbit]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Lighten up, people. And stop back-and-forthing.

Jeez.

The analogy of the gun at a fist-fight is my entire point. I'd suggest you read it, because if you don't get that, then you won't understand where I'm coming from.



Super Smash Brothers, to me, is a game of who can utilize every aspect of the game to the fullest. You choose to ignore items and exploit glitches. I choose to ignore glitches and utilize items. The reason I feel like my playstyle is more relevant to the style of the game is because I'm playing within the bounds of the original concept of the game. My playstyle can work against anyone (well, anyone who decides items are actually fun and leaves them in) and I will be able to win about 90% of the time. Your playstyle can work against anyone (well, anyone who doesn't complain that what you're doing is cheating, which is about 90% of the people who've never seen wavedashing before) and you'll be able to win 90% of the time.

That's the difference. If you got some random person who has played Melee and never seen a competitive match and set them against you and I in separate matches, they're more likely to complain about the result of your match rather than the result of mine.

No disrespect, but you never post any facts. All you do it make up analogies that make no sense and show us your opinion. If there's no facts in an argument what's the point? No offense, but there's no reason to go on anymore; we proved our point and would like to discuss Brawl now.

[Temote]

Originally Posted by l2awr

Knowing that, you don't think it is fair against the person ignorant of it.

Don't you think that if that opponent cared enough he would go learn how, to keep up his game? If he didn't care all that much about someone doing something he can't when he sees its an obvious advantage then he obviously doesn't care a whole lot about winning. So the winner wins and the loser loses. Both have fun, so its a win/win situation.

So, where is the fun? Honestly, you said your friends taught you how to wavedash, but if it's just a random person, are you seriously going to stop and show them how to compete if they ask, or are you just going to keep "pwning noobs"? Remember, friends does not equal random people you meet online or at another place besides your homes.

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by Temote

So, where is the fun? Honestly, you said your friends taught you how to wavedash, but if it's just a random person, are you seriously going to stop and show them how to compete if they ask, or are you just going to keep "pwning noobs"? Remember, friends does not equal random people you meet online or at another place besides your homes.

Actually my friends didn't. Youtube did