my views on how the american goverment traps lower class citizens.

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Originally Posted by Kilroy_x

Some people are definitely "Just smart". Intelligence is for the most part an abstract construct anyways, but there are certainly child chess prodigies or mathematical savants who show profound skill in an area well before they ever formal training in it. The same is true of all variety of skills.

No, no one is just smart. Just becuse you can be a prodigy in chess does not mean you have an essential quick way of learning everything given to you. Although genius might be a term some might recognize as smart, it is only being used to describe the leve of thinking beyond that of a normal person.
I am saying no one is smart in the context of this example: computer assembly.

This is one of the most absurd statements I've ever heard. What goal are you even talking about, the goal of impressing a gaggle of idiot high school teachers whose positions are roughly equivalent to sinecures? If I want to learn about, for example, the philosophy of science, I can go to a library and pick up books by Thomas Kuhn and Karl Popper. I can then read them, and given that I understand them I will probably give every indication that I understood them when I get in conversation with other knowledgeable individuals about the subject.

No, you are not impressing anyone; You are using the tools of education and information to use for *yourself* and when you get down to it, those "gaggle of idiots" are the ones who put in a good word for you to get into a high end university. If you think that learning is solely based on reading books, then you are sadly mistaken. We gain effieciancy through practice. Surely, just becuase you read a book on philiosphy it does not make you effieciant in its practices.

Chance, maybe. Resources or treatment? Maybe not.

Chance, indef. Resources, more than likely. Treatmeant, probable. School is school. If you are mistreated for what ever reason, it does not prevent you from acquiring the information. Resources are there. There are set standards in what you need to learn and when you need to learn them. A school hires teachers who have been given a degree which surely give them the credit to teach. Saying that there are no resources is absurd.

Actually it's closer to a constitutional republic, although the whole constitutional part is going away rather quickly.

Touche. Although we still do have a word, no matter how small it is, that goes into our governments actions.

What are you talking about, a $20,000 annual average salary for High School graduates? The amount of money spent per student on public education? In either of these instances what you are saying is nonsensical.

It is proven that grauates tend to make more money a year which means more money to suit a better life style or an even higher education. Again, the government invests money into the schools and teachers and programs all for the benefit of a child. $20,000 is a -reasonable- amount. Depending on the area, it could be more or less. The education they are giving you is a lower end option of college. You are learning criteria that specializes in a certain aspect of a field or corresponding study. Learning is not free.

There is a wealth of things to debate about. For instance, if a person wants to make money and live happily at the moment, why shouldn't they be allowed to? Why is the basic opportunity structure of this country so reliant of Government, and is this detrimental to individuals? Does the government even have a right to put things on the table for us, and can it do so effectively?

These are all core questions which largely seem to be asked by the OP himself. Answer them.

The governemtn is there for order among the peoples. All they do is give out the particular requirements needed for a better life style. If the government did not care, they would invest so much money into teaching kids. If they wanted to make people poor and keep them that way they would rather stop funding schools and enroll numerous people in unemployment where they can govern how much you make. Such a palce exists; This place is called Cuba.
They do have the right to lay everything out for us, but they are not going to beg for you to take it. It is up to you. they encourage that you study and stay in school so that you do not have to live in pverty, but they are not going to shove it down your throat; They will let you experience life without proper eduation in poverty because *you* did not listen to them otherwise.

It's in all people to a greater or lesser extent, ignorance is just the lack of knowledge and no one is omniscient. You seem incredibly ignorant about economics, for example.

I took US History AP my freshman year. I took World History AP my sophpmore year. I am taking US Government AP and American Economics AP this year. My knowledge on politics and economics is much more higher than where it should be, seeing how Government is a Senior Only class and I am a Junior. I love philosophy and politics along with economics and religion. The principals have passed down since early civilizations and have not changed. I understand these principals with extensive knowledge. To say I am ignorant in my major is baffling to say the least.