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Originally Posted by Dragula219

The description I used was to show what metalcore is really combining. When someone says metalcore is a combination of metal and hardcore, they don't mean "Traditional metal". They mean the kind of metal I described. Recent metal, and whether you think it's a bad description or not, the kind of music I'm talking about has all of the attributes I described. If you think you can write a better version of recent metal, by all means do. I'll add it in place of mine.

No, you're not getting it. Your term "recent metal" is a misnomer. Recent metal is just metal played recently! It shares the same attributes that metal has developed (cumulatively) over the last 30+ years. Metal all shares a common genealogical ancestry. It's all a direct lineage from those '70s bands, and that's what keeps it together.

So listing Trivium and Avenged Sevenfold as examples of recent metal just doesn't work. If metalcore began by combining metal and hardcore, then you can't use metalcore bands to describe metal so that you can later describe metalcore.

And as a sidenote, death metal is not unique, special or different enough to warrant a separation from the rest of metal. This is part of my point.