Homosexual Marriage

[animeparadise]

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x

Why?

It's just my opinon. I don't care what anyone else thinks.
People are for it and people are against it.
And I'm against because like I said.

If you were suppose to be a boy you would be a boy, if you were suppose to be a girl then you would be a girl

Am I right? haha

[Kilroy_x]

Originally Posted by animeparadise

It's just my opinon. I don't care what anyone else thinks.

Then chances are your opinion hasn't been tested enough to have any merit.

If you were suppose to be a boy you would be a boy, if you were suppose to be a girl then you would be a girl

How do you figure? What conditions necessitate that physical gender is always appropriate? Would you perhaps propose that God decides? What about people with inter-sexed conditions, who aren't fully male or female?

Am I right? haha

I very much doubt you are right, and I believe modern biology and medicine provide sufficient evidence against your perspective, although as a stand-alone field psychology is still pretty backwards and might give you support.

[animeparadise]

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x

Then chances are your opinion hasn't been tested enough to have any merit.

LIKE, I said just MY opinon...
EVERYONE has there own opinions!

[Kilroy_x]

Yes. Everyone has opinions. Even people like Hitler, Charles Manson, Ted Kazynski, and our current president. Some opinions happen to be BAD OPINIONS.

[animeparadise]

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x

Yes. Everyone has opinions. Even people like Hitler, Charles Manson, Ted Kazynski, and our current president. Some opinions happen to be BAD OPINIONS.

A huh!

[Kilroy_x]

So, given that your opinion is apparently based on blind conviction AND is potentially harmful to others, it is a pretty straightforward thing to say your opinion is a bad opinion.

[animeparadise]

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x

So, given that your opinion is apparently based on blind conviction AND is potentially harmful to others, it is a pretty straightforward thing to say your opinion is a bad opinion.

It's just an opinion...
Like you have your OWN opinion I have mine.

Saying that "I'm against Sex change", Isn't a fact.
It's MY own opinion, now isn't it.

Like you might think TV is stupid... Okay!!??! That's your opinion
On the other hand my opinion would be... That I like TV

Differen't opinions!

[animeparadise]

Originally Posted by animeparadise

It's just an opinion...
Like you have your OWN opinion I have mine.

Saying that "I'm against Sex change", Isn't a fact.
It's MY own opinion, now isn't it.

Like you might think TV is stupid... Okay!!??! That's your opinion
On the other hand my opinion would be... That I like TV

Differen't opinions!

Your making it sound like it's bad to say your own opinion! haha

[timmy dime]

i havent really thought about homosexualism, is that a word? oh well, but yeah i guess its ok dont really care

[Kilroy_x]

Originally Posted by animeparadise

It's just an opinion...
Like you have your OWN opinion I have mine.

JUST an opinion? Opinions determine how people behave. Opinions determine whether or not people KILL EACH OTHER. I don't think you fully understand the problems with having and expressing bad opinions, especially from positions of willful ignorance and blind emotion.

Saying that "I'm against Sex change", Isn't a fact.
It's MY own opinion, now isn't it.

And where could your opinion take us? If everyone shared it, perhaps sex changes would be banned. Then perhaps transsexuals would be put in prison. Or perhaps they would receive the death penalty. Or perhaps there would be no need for legal recourse at all because PEOPLE WOULD KILL TRANSSEXUALS WHEREVER THEY FOUND THEM.

I don't care whether you pass it off as fact or opinion, I care where it leads. In this case it likely leads somewhere bad, so it's very bad for you to have and articulate such an opinion.

Originally Posted by animeparadise

Your making it sound like it's bad to say your own opinion! haha

It is most certainly bad to spread an opinion such as the one you have, or even to spread the attitude which allows people to have such blind faith in untested, ignorant, retreatist ways of thinking such as your own.

[animeparadise]

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x

JUST an opinion? Opinions determine how people behave. Opinions determine whether or not people KILL EACH OTHER. I don't think you fully understand the problems with having and expressing bad opinions, especially from positions of willful ignorance and blind emotion.



And where could your opinion take us? If everyone shared it, perhaps sex changes would be banned. Then perhaps transsexuals would be put in prison. Or perhaps they would receive the death penalty. Or perhaps there would be no need for legal recourse at all because PEOPLE WOULD KILL TRANSSEXUALS WHEREVER THEY FOUND THEM.

I don't care whether you pass it off as fact or opinion, I care where it leads. In this case it likely leads somewhere bad, so it's very bad for you to have and articulate such an opinion.



It is most certainly bad to spread an opinion such as the one you have, or even to spread the attitude which allows people to have such blind faith in untested, ignorant, retreatist ways of thinking such as your own.

Hahahahahaha.... Oh please, spear me lol!
Get some rest. I'm done with this convo... LOL!

[Kilroy_x]

How open-minded of you. Good riddance.

[ToshX]

What he's saying is that if you're going to express your opinion, you should probably have a good reason for that opinion to back it up. A good reason meaning something besides "oh I just feel that way". I mean yeah, you feel that way, since, after all, it's your opinion, so tell us more. Tell us exactly why you feel that things should be that way.

If there is no reason except that you just want it to be that way "just because", then maybe you're better off not stating your opinion.

I mean, man, everyone blindly follows SOMETHING "just because" or because other people just tell them to.

Are people Christian just because they believe in it? Yeah. Are people atheist just because they believe there is nothing? Yeah. The same could be said about every single religion/non-religion until a god comes down here and smites someone for not believing or until someone proves there is not a god, which would probably be impossible to prove.

So really, we all follow SOMETHING blindly, but unless we can back it up, it isn't a good thing to argue.

[Kilroy_x]

I make it a habit to not follow anything blindly if I can help it. If no one questions a given thing I say, or if no one questions it in a way that shows to me faults in my thinking, I continue to believe it. However I also try not to pull ideas out of thin air.

Not all Christians are such "just because", neither are all atheists. Not all people follow something blindly, except of course in the places where all are blind. And in those places, we have no way of knowing the extent of our blind following, now do we?

[jewpinthethird]

animeparadise, if you keep up this behavior in CT, you will be banned.

[ToshX]

Well there's no way to prove there is or isn't a god until a god comes down to us, in which case we would prove there is one. There's no real way to prove there isn't one.

That being said, we HAVE to blindly believe it because we simply cannot prove otherwise.

[Kilroy_x]

Originally Posted by ToshX

Well there's no way to prove there is or isn't a god until a god comes down to us, in which case we would prove there is one. There's no real way to prove there isn't one.

It depends entirely on your willingness to accept certain premises. If you accept that logic and reason are sound, and that certain descriptions of God contain logical impossibilities and contradictions (by virtue of accepting, say, that killing people and causing people pain contradicts benevolence), you can conclude that at least certain versions of God are logical impossibilities. This is usually known as negative theology, and is often used by believers to try and define what God is by using logic and reason to rule out what God cannot be.

That being said, we HAVE to blindly believe it because we simply cannot prove otherwise.

Even if we can't define every possible unknown factor (which, definitionally, we can't), and even if we're left with a bunch of reasonable yet contradictory arguments, we can effectively narrow the number of things which are sensible to put any stock into. This is better than nothing at least. We can also use external reason to test other things about faith vs. lack of faith. For example, we can demonstrate what the cost of belief is, short of unknowables like an afterlife of course.

[devonin]

The flaw there is that in so many cases, it is the promise of a specific unknowable afterlife that is the prime reason given for why one ought to pay the costs associated with believing.

[TwilightPrincess]

Originally Posted by animeparadise

I don't see anything wrong with gay, bi, lesbo or anything??

The only thing I'm against is getting a sex change.. You were born to be either a boy or a girl and shouldn't be changed. If you were suppose to be a boy you would be a boy, if you were suppose to be a girl then you would be a girl ^_^

To tell the truth I'm bi and I don't care haha.
But I don't see myself marrying a guy 0_0

Yeah. It's like people who get a sex change JUST so they can be a lesbian or a gay. Weird. -_-

I'm not gay myself, but I have witnessed gay people.... doing gay things. :O:O:O:O:O:O

Cheers,
Daniel

[NarutoFoxDemon]

I agree perfectly