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For someone so worried about the denotations of a word I'm surprised to see you use such an empty word as "many".
I could play the dictionary game with you all day, but you know as well as I do that those two words are not synonymous, and that the media do not, by any means, have "authoritative influence" or "dominating influence" over us. --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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So...influence is a power affecting someone, and control is the -successful- exercise of influence on someone.
So the media only -controls- you if is is -successful- in -influencing- you. If you choose to not let it influence you, then it does not control you. |
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I don't understand why it is that men seem to be the major debaters in the abortion argument. Or rather, whose idea was it to let men be in-charge of what women can do with their body?
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I don't think that any of the men in this discussion feel that "Men should be in charge of what women do with their bodies" but that doesn't stop men from having an opinion on the subject, nor should men in any way be forbidden to express their opinion on the subject.
As many people want to stress in this thread: making a baby takes a man too, so why are men forbidden to have an opinion about what happens to it? |
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I'm not saying that men shouldn't have a say. It's just a majority of the lawmakers and the president are males...and I really think it's a matter that women should have the final say in.
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Well, it's something (if the government is legislating on it) that the government should have final say in. If there are no prominant female members of government to be involved, that seems indicative of entirely a seperate topic of discussion.
Men and Woman all vote to elect their government, and if abortion issues are particularly important to voting women, they can make it an electoral issue when deciding for whom to vote (And many do) Though I mean, to me it isn't a subject any government, even one run entirely by women, should have the first say in at all. |
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I don't really agree with abortions and I think it's a doctors responsibility to make very clear all the other alternatives to women, which I'm sure they do. It also alarms me that 16 year olds can get pregnant and then have an abortion without their parents knowing, I just don't think a 16 year old can make that kind of massive decision on their own especially when they're emotionally all over the place as they will be just getting knocked up. So yeh, I think abortions are generally wrong, but I think banning them would be stupid, as has been said before it would just open up a new market for back street abortions, (which is incidentally why I think many drugs should be legalised, but thats another tale.) and also women deserve the right to a choice at the end of the day. |
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The government certainly does try to push for abstinence on television. I myself have seen a couple of their commercials on the issue. The question is... who do you listen to? Concerned children's advertisers, or Much Music? It is simply pitiful if you get your ideals on wheter pre-marital sex is wrong from 50 cent rather than some kind of trained professional such as a doctor who can tell you the negative conseuences of your actions. It's what you choose to watch. Finally, you absolutely still have the consiousness to be able to tell that something is wrong. You would have to be extremely weak-willed in order to let the media be the only deciding factor in your life.
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The reason why kids are having sex at a young age is not because they want to have a baby and thats the problem. Until you can stop "causual" sex from the minds of millions of kids, adults, humans then you can get yourself a whole box of cookies. |
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Absolutely true. Can these teenagers truly not find some better way to express love than sex? I see your point.
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Also, I was unaware girls under 18 could have an abortion without parental knowledge/consent. I know girls can get on birth control without parental consent, but as far as I know, a minor still needs parental consent to have an abortion, but I am basically speaking from my knowledge of Texas and Arkansas law, so I could be wrong. |
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Yeah, that's not the rules here, it's crazy really, parent should be informed. Although I'm not sure if required parental consent is a good idea, because at the end of the day they're not the ones having the baby, but they should be in the loop so they can try and talk their child out of having an abortion or whatever, and also just be there to comfort them in a pretty traumatic time.
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I'm not sure how one can argue "purpose" while staying purely in the realm of biology. Reproduction is a direct byproduct of sex (and a potentially very atractice one at that), but to say the purpose of sex is reproduction seems to be leaving bio and entering philosophy, at which point people are going to start disagreeing.
Not that I am one of those people. Just sayin'.
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I believe abortion should not be exiled, but rather used responibly. Such as if a female is raped and is pregnant at the freakin age of 13, she should have every right to abortion.
On the other hand, if you don't feel like using protection and you have repeated abortion, it should be thought of as murder. What if that child would of grown up and had HUGE revelations for our country? That person could of been a great leader.
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If someone really wants to do something they are doing to do it. Illegal drugs is a great example. So if you make abortion illegal well then the mothers will have to do it secretly and illegally. |
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I don't think there are too many girls out there going "I'm going to get knocked up and get an abortion, that'll show mom and dad!" Edit: Though if there are...good god is that indicative of a much much deeper issue. |
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Love and sex are not necessarily mutually inclusive, true, but they are most certainly NOT the inverse. If it is fair to say that the underlying purpose of sex in modern times is, for the most part, reproduction instead of pleasure, then we wouldn't have prostitution or porn. The purpose of sex has changed. That's like saying "The purpose of gravity is to bring things back down to the earth, so therefore if you're running around and bomb drops on your head from an overhead plane, it's your fault for walking under it."
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Wrong I also hope to marry another virgin. As for having kids, one day I will be overjoyed to be a father. Will I enjoy having sex with my partner? Absoultely ![]() However, if two teengers are having sex is it really love? Is it really that deep emotion connection that you refer to? No it's lust, a hormonal desire for both of them to indulge in adult affairs just like the porngraphy you refered to. If it's a husband and a wife, it's a whole different story. For the record this is the last post I'm going to make. Peace out ![]()
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