MapleStory

[PangYa]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

hahahahahahaha

Double stab is useless. Any build that mentions double stab is not the fastest and best way to level. I'll admit that Squeek's primarily suggested build is not necessarily the best, but he got it right in mentioning the ditsin build.Oh, and by the way, every single skill for bandits in 1st job sucks ass. Dark sight has no real point outside of necessary PQs. Disorder is 100% useless. Double stab is crappy and is made entirely obsolete early in 2nd job. Nimble Body is useful, but no one worries about accuracy when they're under level 30. Point number one against what you've had to say.

Going for SB first will make for higher maximum damage, but you'll have a freaking huge range. Your hardest hits will be harder, but your weak hits will be much weaker. This is because you will have VERY LOW MASTERY. Lucky 7 has built in mastery, thus defeating the purpose of even having to worry about SB or mastery... you just get mastery up and by the time your SB is high enough in 4x, you'll have good mastery with daggers. Point number two against what you have to say.

Steal is ****ing worthless. Ludi PQ? Hah! Ludi PQ is only until level 50 and you're still a newb at level 50. In addition, I hear it no longer works for getting extra PQ items. Point number 3 against what you've said.

And this thing here about "add x amount of y stat until forever" is always wrong. ALWAYS. YOU NEVER ADD TO YOUR SECONDARY STAT UNLESS YOU NEED TO FOR A WEAPON THAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE. There is not a single class ANYWHERE where you can simply say "add x amount of stat y every level". The only possible exceptions are -less builds-- lukless, dexless, strless. And in those instances, a given formula only works because 100% of AP is to be applied into the class's primary stat.

PS I only even wrote this post, because you made a false claim. Squeek may not know as much about the game due to quitting a while back, but he definitely is among the tops as far as knowledge of this game goes, even if some of his knowledge is a bit dated sometimes.

That has to be the most uninformed post ever.

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I've been training at Skeledogs, it's pretty good. I did 10% in less than an hour.

[banditcom]

Originally Posted by PangYa

Disorder has saved my ass several times over at pig beach while I was hunting pigs heads. nimble body is pretty useless if you can utilize the rest of your skills right. As for savage blow and mastery although sb starts off weak it gets powerful quickly enough in time for ludi PQs. In my example I was level 38 and the guy helping me was level 43. She was using savage blow with 4 hits each and mastery maxed. I was using mine with 6 hits and not a single point in mastery. It took her 6 hits to kill a zombie lupin while it took me only 3.

lmfao.... omg Disorder saving someone's ass? AT PIG BEACH?! *ROLLS ON FLOOR* 1) How can someone die there or need their ass saving? 2) Disorder, at most, would take off about 10 damage... lmao... And no, SB without mastery sucks. End of story.

Originally Posted by PangYa

DEX is what broadens your attack power range. You need it alot for both equips and effective hits. LUK is what actually gets the job done with your skills however. A dexless dit is a useless one. Steal will save you money. Alot of money.

haha. Steal saves money? By what, possibly stealing something from a monster THAT WOULD DROP IF YOU KILLED IT?? DEX broadening your attack power range, are you joking me? Sure it raises up min, but it does nothing for your max... But hey if you want to do 500 to 600 damage per hit while another guy is doing 475 to 800, be my guest..

Originally Posted by PangYa

Keep in mind you're saying this to the level 200 shadower -_-

lmfao gtfo please. You're full of ****. Yeah I'm SURE you're the first person in JMS to hit 200. RIIIIIIIIGHT. Stop with your bull**** you faker. You know jack **** about this game if you're suggesting max disorder to save your ass, steal to get you money, and higher SB being useful before mastery... ****ing pretender. Guess what? Everyone's going to laugh at you.

Btw, I do know what I'm talking about just FYI. I know about all classes, many skill builds, and own a 130 Night Lord and 111 Dragon Knight. I'm very well known on Sleepywood.net and in GMS Bera. Hell, people know about me in other servers too. People bring me up all the time, my tips, my keysettings, my threads. Everything.

And here you are.... talking about how disorder saves you at pig beach, while saying how ****ty a skill that adds avoid as a bandit of all classes. That's plain stupid.


I vote ban this lying 13-year-old from the thread (he says he's 13 in a comment on his profile). Oh and he says he plays MSEA, which ummmm has 1 level 200 and that's a Night Lord.

[IAAW]

Originally Posted by banditcom

haha. Steal saves money?

Even I, though I don't have an dit/sin, would believe that Steal is an COMPLETELY useless skill. Of course, banditcom is always right about skills. Heck, he's a pro at MS. =P

In other news, I'm at 50% right now in MS. Will I have my first level up in months? Only time will tell.

[ProtoMDS]

Rofl; This guy who needs his ass saved at Pig Beach with a completely useless skill is attempting to argue with a 13X hermit about thief skills.

A) Dex does nothing for your max. Well, not NOTHING, but close to nothing. Smart people go 3 levels LUK 2 levels DEX to maximize damage WHILE having enough DEX in the long run to equip new gear.

B)

level 200 shadower -_-

ROFL A LEVEL 200 SHADOWER NEEDED TO BE SAVED BY DISORDER?!?!?!
Seriously though, there is no ****ing way a level 200 shadower will be making posts like yours. Seriously. A shadower would actually know how skills work.

C) DEXless/Low DEX'd dits are useless? Get to level 35, you with your regular dex and challenge a level 35 DEXless dit to a KS war. Have fun getting your ass whooped.

D) Steal doesn't save money; it just gives you a slightly chance of finding some extra money / equips. Again, there's no way a level 200 Shadower could get this so horrendously wrong.

E) Squeek may be outdated, but his outdated information is still 1000% more accurate than you.

PS: Jason, a lot of bandits and/or bandit-sins raise SB to level 21 (6 hits) then raise Dagger Mastery.

HOLY EDIT BATMAN:
I just realized this shadower wannabe is attempting to challenge 3 maplestory info powerhouses. Let's see who wins.

[banditcom]

I know many go 21 SB before mastery, but they tend to regret it. He said to max SB first.

[PangYa]

Originally Posted by banditcom

lmfao.... omg Disorder saving someone's ass? AT PIG BEACH?! *ROLLS ON FLOOR* 1) How can someone die there or need their ass saving? 2) Disorder, at most, would take off about 10 damage... lmao... And no, SB without mastery sucks. End of story.

That was back at the low levels. It reduces an iron pigs attack to 5 that allowed me to save hp potions while hunting for the heads. I no longer go there anymore or use disorder. SB without mastery has wide attack range but far from sucking. If you max it first then that won't matter as you're hitting 6 times and it'll rarely get no hits on the upper scale. If you're a bandit you need to save money good equips and potions before steal.

haha. Steal saves money? By what, possibly stealing something from a monster THAT WOULD DROP IF YOU KILLED IT?? DEX broadening your attack power range, are you joking me? Sure it raises up min, but it does nothing for your max... But hey if you want to do 500 to 600 damage per hit while another guy is doing 475 to 800, be my guest..

It does stuff for your max dumb****. Why raise STR on a thief? Oh I get it you're not using skills are you? Because you DON'T use steal to help get equips that normally are harder to get so you DON'T have enough money for MP potions.

lmfao gtfo please. You're full of ****. Yeah I'm SURE you're the first person in JMS to hit 200. RIIIIIIIIGHT. Stop with your bull**** you faker. You know jack **** about this game if you're suggesting max disorder to save your ass, steal to get you money, and higher SB being useful before mastery... ****ing pretender. Guess what? Everyone's going to laugh at you.

Disorder when you're a shadower or cheif badit, pretty useless. In the early stages of a bandit or the late stages of a thief you need it for efficiently getting pigs heads for that festival lady unless you wanna use up potions.

Btw, I do know what I'm talking about just FYI. I know about all classes, many skill builds, and own a 130 Night Lord and 111 Dragon Knight. I'm very well known on Sleepywood.net and in GMS Bera. Hell, people know about me in other servers too. People bring me up all the time, my tips, my keysettings, my threads. Everything.

And here you are.... talking about how disorder saves you at pig beach, while saying how ****ty a skill that adds avoid as a bandit of all classes. That's plain stupid.


I vote ban this lying 13-year-old from the thread (he says he's 13 in a comment on his profile). Oh and he says he plays MSEA, which ummmm has 1 level 200 and that's a Night Lord.

I play SEA because I got bored on JMS. And does GMS even HAVE 4th jobs yet?

[PangYa]

Originally Posted by IAAW

Even I, though I don't have an dit/sin, would believe that Steal is an COMPLETELY useless skill. Of course, banditcom is always right about skills. Heck, he's a pro at MS. =P

In other news, I'm at 50% right now in MS. Will I have my first level up in months? Only time will tell.

Steal isn't useless. No one ****ing uses it right though. You don't go around and use it 5 times then give up. Go to where a monster has the item you're looking for. Use steal until you get the item. Alot quicker than hunting for days.

[PangYa]

Originally Posted by ProtoMDS

A) Dex does nothing for your max. Well, not NOTHING, but close to nothing. Smart people go 3 levels LUK 2 levels DEX to maximize damage WHILE having enough DEX in the long run to equip new gear.

That's what I'm saying. 3 points LUK, 2 points DEX.

B)

ROFL A LEVEL 200 SHADOWER NEEDED TO BE SAVED BY DISORDER?!?!?!
Seriously though, there is no ****ing way a level 200 shadower will be making posts like yours. Seriously. A shadower would actually know how skills work.

Never said I needed it as a shadower. I needed it as an early bandit and a rogue. Read the post and make sure you know what you're saying.

C) DEXless/Low DEX'd dits are useless? Get to level 35, you with your regular dex and challenge a level 35 DEXless dit to a KS war. Have fun getting your ass whooped.

Now at level 40 in SEA I've gone about a party like that in PQ. There were 2 dits one was me, the other low DEX. I did far more than him.

D) Steal doesn't save money; it just gives you a slightly chance of finding some extra money / equips. Again, there's no way a level 200 Shadower could get this so horrendously wrong.

It speeds things up and if you can find a good place you can easily sell your stuff. Do you want to hunt for 5 days for something or 3 days?

[PangYa]

Originally Posted by banditcom

I know many go 21 SB before mastery, but they tend to regret it. He said to max SB first.

And not regretting it one bit on my level 40.

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C-C-Combo!

[VampireRetard]

im ip banned....

[ToshX]

If you're hitting harder than a low dex player constantly, they're probably doing something wrong.

I mean yeah, I'm sure a low dex has his BS sprees where he SBs 400 like 6 times in a row and you end up hitting 500-600 like 6 times in a row, but overall, he's probably going to hit more(unless he did something terribly wrong).

Also, since I don't know much about Bandits while they're still in the 2nd job(and bowmen in general :/, but that's another topic), if a Bandit were to max steal, would he be able to steal from bosses? I mean, if he could, you'd think there'd be a bunch of level 50 Bandits with their level 50 Spearmen friends boating back and forth to steal stuff from Crimson Barlog(I refuse to spell it the "right" way <3).

[VampireRetard]

wow NOOBS, sry i just had to say that

(56 46 37 35 35 35 33 32 31 30 etc...)

[stfuitsbrandon]

so, im not supposed to be putting in dex?

[TheCookieMonster]

wud u believe me if i said I was a lvl 14 warrior with 50 mil in meso?
Wud u believe me if i said Maple story is an easy game?
WUD U BELIEVE ME IF I SAID I NEVER HAD MORE THAN 1 MIL ON MY LVL 35 SIN?
well, i'll just say that the last one i said, it is true, but i deleted that sin about 3 months ago...


EDIT: Would you believe me if I said [that] I was a level fourteen warrior with 50 million meso? (PRIVATE SERVER)
Would you believe me if I said [that] Maple Story is an easy game? (PRIVATE SERVER)
Would you believe me if I said [that] I never had more than 1 million [meso] on my level thirty-five assassin? (because I didn't do quests)
Well, I'll just say that the last one I said is true, but I deleted that assassin long time ago...

[ToshX]

Originally Posted by stfuitsbrandon

so, im not supposed to be putting in dex?

It'll probably cost you loads of money if you don't put in any dex. How much do you have now?

Originally Posted by VampireRetard

wow NOOBS

Who are you?

Originally Posted by TheCookieMonster

wud u believe me if i said I was a lvl 14 warrior with 50 mil in meso?
Wud u believe me if i said Maple story is an easy game?
WUD U BELIEVE ME IF I SAID I NEVER HAD MORE THAN 1 MIL ON MY LVL 35 SIN?
well, i'll just say that the last one i said, it is true, but i deleted that sin about 3 months ago...

You know, I could send 10K over to a level 1 and gradually build up money by buying and selling ores to get up to at least 100K, then I could go for bigger things, etc. to 1mil. I could then trade scrolls until 50mil. Most lvl 14 warriors have at LEAST 10K.

[stfuitsbrandon]

right now, 27 mil

*edit* wow, 4 posts in a row, good job!

[ToshX]

I actually meant how much dex.

But yeah, if you have 27mil and you feel like deleting the char for a dexless, go on, but I strongly suggest that you begin scrolling something like a Sauna Robe for dex FIRST(as in before making your char).

But in all technicality, you could have the exact same friggin' results if you stopped putting in dex around like 25 dex and just scrolled an overall for luk instead.

[stfuitsbrandon]

well i think for now im good. haha. but i just dont know if i should keep adding more, ive been doing the whole, double your level thing. so right now i have 48 i believe.