MapleStory

[tsugomaru]

Originally Posted by ToshX

Magic Claw never really gets old, though, in terms of coolness.

Heal is all you have, but I kinda enjoy it for some reason. It's just like you recover ALL of your HP AS WELL AS hit 6 enemies around you. No need to worry about damage taken by the mobs you're in the middle of, you heal. Don't even look at your HP bar, even. No need to worry about MP, you have plenty of how much heal costs. You'll probably kill off every enemy and look at your MP Bar by the time you need it anyway.

Really, they're pretty cool dudes. Pretty useless except for healing and buffing, but they're pretty cool dudes.

@Tsugo, I don't know of ANYONE that actually levels seriously in solo as a priest after level 100, and I've been playing this game forever. Likely the longest in this thread.

Turns out I actually play a lot, it's just that FFR really does manage to annoy me because of how everyone is so egotistical ingame. Much more than I'm being now, even.

Kay, I understand that. I probably would've said they would never solo if I was still playing, from what I heard, party play is now better than solo play. The point still remains, your only spell will not be Heal. Otherwise I'd take off all my other avaliable spells on my keyboard.

Since you know, all I'll do is heal.

~Tsugomaru

[Star_Rose662]

Meh.
llamas x.x
im boredddddddddd
uhm..........................................................................................
where should a lvl 31 ice person train x.x still havent figured out x.x i apologize with the questions,im dumb x.x

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Dragon isn't an attack. It's a buff. If anything, it's a passive attack that deals very crappy damage over an incredibly long period of time.

Buff? Haha. Passive attack is a much better way of saying it. And yeah, the damage isn't great, but don't think of it that way. Think of it as an extra bit. Even if it takes a while to attack, you'll still end up doing quite a bit more damage in the long run.

I had SR at level 17 and I still rarely used it while soloing. Only if I could be in a safe place with 4-6 enemies around me would I even consider it.

I used to think the same way as you. Then I decided to figure out a way that works. I had it down completely very quickly. I have yet to die from this specifically (I did die one time, but it was because my finger slipped off of heal ).

And I forgot they changed HA to 80 instead of 70. It was after my time.

Even at 70 base, that's 105 base on holy-weak monsters. Combine 105 base with better knock back power and you'll see that Holy Arrow is always stronger. The problem, like I said before, comes from not being able to afford the points for the skill. Honestly, if they made it take 20 to max, even if they nerfed it slightly (ie returned it to 70), I would give up 10 points in MP Eater for it.

And Tsugo, yes, partying is better, but not by a lot. Sometimes I don't feel like being bounded to someone else and having to let them down when I get bored of playing. Soloing is fun a lot of the time and it leaves me open to leave whenever I feel like it without feeling guilty at all.

[evilbutterfly]

I, for one, am pretty angry about the priest skill being exactly like the mages' skills. Aside from the fact that mages have amp (which only makes that one skill much harder on us ), the priest attack will be just as strong. Priests having quantum explosion was one thing, but this is just ridiculous. =\ Plus their summon is way the hell stronger than the mage ones. This is pretty gay.

[ImEric12]

Priests are getting everything they asked for... they're gonna be the godly class I guess.

Also.. I thought eater didn't actually drain enemy MP, just took a pecentage based on how much they have?

[Bahamut-X]

Originally Posted by ImEric12

Keeto, new Paladin skills:

Paladin: Endless Blow /K:엔드리스 블로우 /J:エンドレスブロー
Type: Passive
Description: The higher the skill level, the more probability of not losing your charge when using Knight's Charge Blow (at maxed level it will never discharge). Power of Knight's Charge Blow also rises.
Max Level 10: Charge Blow attack power 300%, 100% probability of keeping your elemental charge when using Charge Blow.
Comment: This passive ability lets a Paladin to endlessly spam charge blow. And yes, Charge Blow stuns all 6 of the mobs just like 3rd Job.
picture: http://img730.photo.163.com/wangfang...2467485666.gif

Paladin: Spirit /K:투혼 /J:スピリット
Type: Active
Description: Stab a fireceful blow with your charged power into an enemy.
Max Level 30: 40 MP, 550% attack power
Comment: A forced stab attack with a brand new animation (unique for each charge). Spirit does not activate final attack and hits single target and nor does it discharge your element. Note stabbing favors swords and discourages hammers. Overall a very nice addition to the Page class, no more Power Strike / Slash Blast / Final Attacks ever again.

Paladin: Sanctuary /K:생츄어리 /J:サンクチュアリ
Type: Active
Description: While using Holy Charge, summon a spiritual hammer to unleash a powerful holy shockwave.
Cooldown time: 6 minutes.
Max Level 30: 60 MP, 700% attack power, up to 15 targets
Comment: Attack enemies with a golden hammer.. From the video it looks like it reduces the monsters' HP to 1. You can use this skill even with a sword equipped.


Kinda sucks that Spirit ignores FA, but cool stuff nonetheless.

Hmm... interesting. I'm loving the idea of endless charge. I've always wanted a 4th job skill that allows cb spam. About the spirit, it basically just replaces power strike. Powerstrike + fa = 520% damage, so with spirit you have constant +30% damage power and don't have to worry about FA not activating with power strike. Wtf is with that 40mp thing though, ouch. That'll take alot more pots >.> By that level though you're so rich it won't even matter I don't think. Sanctuary is incredibly lame due to the cooldown time but it looks like a ridiculously powerful attack. Seriously, the cooldown ruins everything. Might be a nice addition for bosses like zak, though. Hitting all the arms for major damages.

Let me see if I have this straight - are these all the paladin 4th job skills?
-Rush (that stabbing thing)
-Holy charge
-That shield stun thing
-Sanctuary
-Endless blow(job lol)
-Spirit

It looks like I got my wish for new attacks... even if some are pretty gay (wtf 6 min cooldown). Where's my buff skill now. Don't tell me they're leaving out a paladin buff skill for 4th job. We atleast deserve ONE.

Just thinking here... say a paladin is confronted with a grim mob. So many ways to handle it. Activate the holy charge, charge blow them so theyre stunned, and rush until they're dead. Or if it's available, use a sanctuary to bring all monster hp to 1 and rush them to1hk them all. Seriously, this sounds really cool.

I may or may not start up my WK again.

[ToshX]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

How many 100+ priests do you know? I've seen a few solo, and actually when they get to that level they often take the bottom of grims rather than cycling with a warrior.

Turns out Squeek's friends are cool, then I met their friends, etc. I eventually ran into a bunch of high levels and SW.net players.

I don't have an exact number, but I'd guestimate around 5-10~. Most of the higher levels are DKs.

@only 5 enemies thing, never noticed that. Really, I just see myself hitting a lot of enemies, I don't count. Most of the time I get mobs, I get like 10-15 or 2-4. They just either pack together or spread out, but don't seem to like going 50/50.

[ToshX]

It isn't letting me edit -.-

Originally Posted by Star_Rose662

Meh.
llamas x.x
im boredddddddddd
uhm..........................................................................................
where should a lvl 31 ice person train x.x still havent figured out x.x i apologize with the questions,im dumb x.x

Same place you trained at level 30. Eventually go to Fire Boars when you get like 10ish in Ice, I don't really remember it that well.

[ckj846]

I thought it was you Afro who was saying YAH YOU CAN'T SR AT GRIMS YOU WILL DIE BECAUSE OF LAG. You can SR and then heal without dying, even if you can only take 1 hit. It's a bit scary to do at first, but once you get it down, you deal quite a bit more damage. And, I have no inspiration to get to 4th job because archers are getting nerfed like mad again, not even worth my time.
O_o

[evilbutterfly]

http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/show....php?t=1125384

Tyler (well everybody, but especially you): Bookmark DREAM's topic. (S)he (I still don't know if DREAM is a girl or a guy with a girl character ) updates it with 4th job info whenever (s)he can (pretty much whenever there is a patch/available translation of a patch/new video posted). Each patch's new skills are put in a different color text, so you can easily see if there has been a patch that has added skills. Pictures and movies of the skills are posted at the top as they are posted in the thread, so check for those every so often.

Speaking of videos, one of the newer videos (requires GOM player, only install the player, not anything else) shows a hero using monster magnet finally. Looks like it's a good compliment to Rush. Rush moves them away, magnet moves them towards you, so if one monster manages to not be near the others to rush into them, you magnet them towards you. Works pretty nicely. =)

And uh, Cam, what do you mean archers are getting nerfed? None of their attacks have been nerfed at all (unless you count the inability to pot while using hurricane, but that's minor). Actually, archers have insane 4th job skills. There has been a constant debate about whether sins or archers are more overpowered. Main reasons archers are friggin ridiculous in 4th job:

Critical Hope: +15 chance for +40% damage (aka: 55% chance for +140% critical)
Bow Expertness: 90% mastery!!!!!!, +10 weapon attack (yes, 90% and 10, wtf)
Concentration/Intensify: +26 watk, half MP cost, 3 minutes (10 minute cooldown)
Hurricane: 90% attack, yes, but more chances for critical and incredible attack speed. Combined with 90% mastery and 15% more often (and 40% stronger) criticals it deals massive damage. This makes bowmasters great zakum body attackers

Yeah, archers have insane ****. If you think you're getting shafted, take a look at mages. Flame/Freeze are only 100 base attack (same as 2nd job cold beam) to 6 monsters (yes, they do damage over time, but it's VERY weak and not for long). Summoned monsters are 120 base attack (same as 2nd job fire arrow and 3rd job explosion), with the only good thing being that (due to freeze/flame) they always get a 1.5x damage bonus. Priest's new dragon (300 base damage, hits 6 instead of 3, I think) is still stronger, regardless of elemental advantage and amp from 3rd job. Those uber attacks, volcano and ice field, use 6200 mp MP (double that for arch mages who will get amp (aka: everybody)). I barely have over 6200 MP at level 96. I definitely don't have 12400 MP by 130 when I could have that maxed. It will only be useable (except maybe just showing off sometimes) if used with Infinite Mana, which has the absolute worst 4th job cooldown. 40 second duration and TEN MINUTE cooldown. Meaning mages can use those good attacks 6.67% of the time. Archers' +26 watk, cost halving skill can be used 30% of the time. That is straight up bull****.

I really hope they change mage skills drastically before it's all over with. As it is, we have crappy skills that only work decently if used in conjunction with other fairly crappy skills. Infinite mana has too huge of a cooldown (and/or too tiny of a duration) to be useful. The summons and flame/freeze or horribly weak. The only uber looking move is useless without infinite mana, which sucks total ass as far as usefulness goes. The only really decent skill is mana reflection, and it's just a powerguard for magic attacks. They definitely need to beef up Flame/Freeze and/or make the summoned monsters much more powerful. But above all, infinite mana needs to have a cooldown at least somewhat as good as the other 4th job skills. Crossbowmasters get an instant kill every 85 seconds, Paladins reduce 15 monsters to 1hp every 6 minutes, bandits get godmode for them and their buddies 10% of the time, bowmasters get +26 watk and half MP cost 30% of the time, and we mages get infinite mana for 6.67% of the time? Not fair. -___-

[ckj846]

Knowing tendencies of Wizet/Nexon, they are going to nerf archers like mad. I was pretty sure they lowered the damage on Hurricane and they changed up the % for that Dragon Pulse thing but I'm not really sure, I don't pay attention very much anymore. Maple sorta lost my interest too. And plus, my kitty died and I don't want to spend more on nx because I'm not even sure I'll play that much anymore. So yeah... heh.
O_o

[tsugomaru]

DREAM is a guy.

Man, he's played for so long.

~Tsugomaru

[banditcom]

Originally Posted by evilbutterfly

(I still don't know if DREAM is a girl or a guy with a girl character )

If you're referring to the character in his av, that's a guy character. o_O

Cam, even if nerfed, you'd still have the best 4th job skills out there. I don't see why they would "nerf" it. Seems it's all balanced, save for having more amazing skills than other classes. If you were a mage, I'd understand. But you're a goddamn ranger... The only problem is that it'll take a while for you to get all the skills you want.


Tyler, Endless Blow is so f'ucking amazing. XD Plus only 10 levels to max like wtf... Thank god that you're not a BW WK. That one move is forced stab... >_> Rush + Endless Blow = gg And no class will use Rush for damage. It was thought that it would be but now Saders have the 150%x2 x 3 monsters move and you WKs have EB...

[evilbutterfly]

If you're referring to the character in his av, that's a guy character. o_O

****ing metro hair. >___<

And Cam, it just really bothers me that you say they ARE getting nerfed like mad as if it's a sure thing when really they just keep getting better and better. Don't talk out of your ass, especially when what you're saying the complete opposite of what's happening. =\

[IAAW]

Cam may be just going through a stage of denial right now. Mainly because he has had a many troubles making it through as a bowman. Cam; get some therapy.

PS: I shall be returning to MS on December 6th. From there, I will split time between MS, and FlyFF. (Don't flame me; FlyFF is a fun game.)

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by ckj846

I thought it was you Afro who was saying YAH YOU CAN'T SR AT GRIMS YOU WILL DIE BECAUSE OF LAG.

I didn't say you can't, I just said that I didn't think I would ever do it and I thought it was a bad idea to risk it.

Turns out it's pretty damn easy to do and not that big of a risk at all for those of us who don't get mad lag like Oni :P

And noah, about those summons: they can't be too strong; they're supposed to be secondary damage dealers. Think of it this way: "same as 2nd job cold beam." It'll be stronger than that even, because you'll be hitting 6 things at once. It's not really that weak, especially since you'll be attacking normally on top of using the summon.

I do agree with the Volcano/Ice Field/Judgement and Infinite Mana, though. It's a terrible idea. I think what they should do is throw those skills out, use their animations for what would be Quantum Explosion, and add the proper element of course.

I also wish they would simply make flame and freeze's only purpose to be dealing a little damage and changing elemental weakness, rather than having it to be used to make the summons stronger. I HATE the idea of summons being opposite element. That is so ****ing stupid. Another idea: flame/freeze could be DoT and add the other element to it's weaknesses (both being burned and frozen make sense for damage over time). This would encourage partying between the two mages (even on elementally neutrals) and it would be a good way to rack up damage (with damage over time). The only problem I could foresee with it being DoT is it being over powered like Poison Mist. I guess it'd have to be kind of weak DoT.

[DancingCow]

Saw/Reported a 9x hacker today.. Isn't that disgusting? The maple admins are doing what they can, but theres no way to stop ALL the hackers.

I hate to see hackers.. of any level. The game isn't so hard that one cannot get to a very high level legitimately. Its not impossible. You guys are proof of that.

[IAAW]

Yeah, whenever I see a hacker, I imagine that he/she cannot do simply one thing. And that's grind... and grind... and grind some more. Yeah, grinding's hard. Getting mesos is hard. But that's what just is supposed to influence you to work hard, and do the best you can. Heh, I'm doing the best I can in FlyFF now. And heck, I'm about to get lvl 14 now (leveling in FlyFF is HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD. Even more than MS. Ugh *chilly feeling*).

[Fimbulvetr]

Meh, i like hackers that benefit me. But Ice Field is coooooooooooolllllll, if u actually get the mp for that, thatd 0wn

[vashthestampede0987]

Except it doesn't own because it's fail.