TWG CLV: Boats

[XelNya]

Lemmie just steal your format for simplicity

1. tokzic

who the fuck are you again

2. charu

can't be fucked to grab quotes

but him going page by page and the rest in the in thread stuff feels good enough to town lean

3. AA

I dunno why AA's gettin' scum leans tbh, most every move in his game makes sense and shows an effort to hunt scum, even in PM's, and his massive attention on dankpack even make sense when you examine it like he has, like tbh I've been doubtin' dankpack, not enought o lynch him, but I totes see whjere AA is comin' from

In fact I'm willin' to state this game feels like a different dankpack to a point

4. arntonach

tbh I dunno anything on him. I wouldn't care if he was gone though tbh.

5. xiz

I'm willin' to lean that he's a third party inevitably, or scum

Forced gimmick leans me to the first, the tin foil leads me to the second for some reason, but even I could image xiz could work with a gimmick like this to be immensely more productive than he currently is, because it's not really much different from my Yuru Yuri gif spamming I love to do, and as someone else mentioned, he posted in song lyrics once.

But I agree I'm willing to wait till next day to figure out how to deal with him. But for now lean him into the scum pile.


6. runescapedude

Les just turn this up a bit

runescapedude

les see were this goes

7. roundbox

town, wynaut

8. red blaster

I'm kinda curious what the deal is

9. storn

eod is gonna determine my lean on him

I wanna see shit

10. dabackpack

Let me be upfront: I'm town leaning Dankpack despite most anything else you'll see me say in logs or w/e. I'll show quotes that give me a lean to the town spectrum. HOWEVER. I am willing to entertain the notion that he may not be town, but you know, could be a random wincon. Scum too if someone hard meta-read him well enough.

Anyways, dankpack:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Xiz are you only allowed to speak on Oglaf panels?

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

hella defensive?

Shado has been putting a fuckton of work into this game, which is not something I would expect out of somebody who was wolfing (esp. for the first time on this website)

he seems to have a real desire to figure out each of the players in this game

Xel is playing differently from usual I think, but his current play mirrors his common endgame towny play --- the really important thing to consider here is how able he is to maintain that attitude during the following phases. He tends to let it drop after the pool narrows down, but he's good for the time being imo

My drizzle read I'm taking back to null --- I thought she was behaving differently from... that game... but I was comparing later game information vs her D0 phase today, and on top of that she does make a hard defense similar to those she did in... that game... (even though it was on probably my highest town right now)

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

this feels really important

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

this too

11. MixMasterLar

Let me just quote myself, and reference something I will post again later

"mml isn't playing bad like, he's making good pings, keeping discussion rolling and isn't being so anti-thread"

this guy be huntin' boys

12. drizzleromancegirl

yer sittin' in the scum pile, and I really have nothing to add to this discussion other than that I agree with it and lynching you today isn't terrible

13. gradiant

I haven't talked with him and can't remember any of his posts

14. XelNya

Fuckin' scumma ass mother fucker ain't doin' shit, time will tell tho

TIME WILL TELL

15. ShadoWolfe

this guy is town

lemmie go into why, most of these will be quotes from him unless noted otherwise

1. We're somewhat mind melding

"You're the only one who's pointed out the same thing as my suspicions, so I figured we should at least talk"

2. He's being upfront with information

"You're a slight town lean but still unsure
You play well in the reference games I've read, so it could go either way"

"drg I think slipped up in the beginning and was acting super defensive, then went on the offense to cover her tracks
Aragaki I thought was town-lean but after a PM conversation I'm a little worried I was wrong"

3. He's inquisitive to hear other views than his own to develop his reads

"ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
Question:
What's your read on MML?

XelNya - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
mml isn't playing bad like, he's making good pings, keeping discussion rolling and isn't being so anti-thread
WHICH IS GREAT
last game had so much OOT that if you missed like zoom / discord video chats you were pretty much on the slate to die

ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:13 AM
I'm glad is isn't like that, then! xD

XelNya - Yesterday at 2:13 AM
Like little details of his reads list"

"xD good
I'm getting the same read, but wanted to verify with you since I had you at basically null with a slight town lean"

Someone explain to me how this guy is scum leaned at all by anyone, this guy's fuckin' huntin'

take my town read for now fren you earned it

Anyways log dump:

XelNya - Last Sunday at 12:59 PM
get pm'd nerd
AragakiAyase - Last Sunday at 1:21 PM
hi
are you a wolf
XelNya - Last Sunday at 1:39 PM
Do pigs fly
Fuck no
AragakiAyase - Last Sunday at 1:39 PM
I mean they can with assistance
and wolves have partners
XelNya - Last Sunday at 1:42 PM
O lol
AragakiAyase - Last Sunday at 3:53 PM
So
Any thoughts
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:04 PM
Yeah drg could be scum, she started with that super weird posting shite from her last scum game @ roundbox
Gonna keep tabs on that closely
AragakiAyase - Last Sunday at 6:06 PM
huh
a few people now seem to think she's scum
I'm getting the opposite feeling
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:08 PM
Really? Why?
Like its early so i could be wrong
AragakiAyase - Last Sunday at 6:13 PM
why do I think that, or why do other peole think what you're thinking?
it's just a toneread for the former
the latter idk
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:14 PM
I meant why you thought she was comin off townie like
Out the gate i agree
But then those round pists kinda... ehh
Posts*
Also shadowwolf on yer radar at all
AragakiAyase - Last Sunday at 6:20 PM
been talking to him, seems alright
he's one of the people who suspects drg
idk, nothing from drg has stuck out to me yet
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:25 PM
Huh interesting
July 11, 2016
XelNya - Yesterday at 12:21 AM
As a side note I said it was interesting because of a PM convo between you, he said "now I'm a little worried" which is not here nor there, but worth notiung for you maybe
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
ok
did you see drg's post
where she voted me
and if you did
do you understand how fucking triggered I am right now
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
#Triggered
let me go find it
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
nah but
her vote is garbage
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
question
do we know if ashe's played OOT game before?
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:40 AM
I don't know that she has
and that's a good point actually
but the fact is she ignored the post where I actually posted reads
and gave reasoning for ALL of them
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:42 AM
Yeah I see that point of view\
because yeah you did do reads based on pms
you explained what of the pm's affected your reads
but you explained*
So her point's kinda null
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:42 AM
and I also said that I instinctively feel better about those who PM me
because that's just my reaction
not that it's correct necessarily
idk that post definitely moves her down for me
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
Your phrasing as per usual is top notch worthy of a fewwwwwwwww

NICKELS
But yeah that is pretty fishy
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
nickelback
but yeah
don't like it
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
shado thinks she's scummy to
NO
NICKELBACK REFERENCES
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
actually it's more than just shado
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
ARE NO
I think MML is kinda in that camp
but not convinced
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
roundbox, MML also think she's sketchy
and there might have been one more, don't remember
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:44 AM
See I dunno anything 'bout roundbox
and MML responded WONDERFULLY to me being pissed over nothing rofl
Like goddamn he sits a lot better with me
After you know
not being pissed off and rereading
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:45 AM
i mean I'm pretty null on roundbox atm, just a slight lean cause we didn't actually do that much
where was this response?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:45 AM
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=311
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.
Plus he's been PMing me away holy shit
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:45 AM
oh that one
yeah he seems to be putting in work
xiz did mention something
that scum often try to post early reads lists
which MML has done
but that's more player dependent I think
at the moment he's definitely more towny than not
there are just too many people who haevn't done shit
yet
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:47 AM
But see that line kinda throws you into the "scum does this" pile in this case kinda
Like not directly but sort of
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:47 AM
kinda
yeah I put reads on like 5 people
he dropped the full reads list though
it's not that important though
just something I'm remembering from that lovely freeze wars game
where rzr pulled that shit and I defended him
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:47 AM
rofl
Freezwars was gud game
not shitty like the last one x.x'
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:48 AM
your wolf game has improved
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:48 AM
last game was not a good game by any definition
I am so angry over that game
like if I got tilted in any game hard
it was that one
when makillaz said she wanted to replace out when I honestly should have as well
So I hope no one reads that game too seriously on my end because it was a shit game
Anyways side note over
lynch pile is prob rb drg (pending her response to you) and I'd possibly entertain a xiz choice but I'm REAL curious what dankpack's up to
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:50 AM
looking back
I didn't actually like dbp's counter push onto arnt
because what did arnt actually do?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:50 AM
See I dunno anything about arnt (and frankly don't care to) but just
that is the most unique dankpack opening
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:51 AM
the sequence of events was MML pointing out DBP hadn't posted, me saying "oh you're right" and voting him (dbp) for it, and arnt making a jokeish comment
then dbp saying "oh arnt is backpacking onto AA, scummy"
and now saying that he wants him to produce more
but it's only been one day...
like yes, he should produce more
but a LOT more people should
xiz, storn, red blaster, you (getting better), tokzic (lmfao)
probably missed some people
gradiant I talked to a while, just all oot and voice so no logs lol
anyways gonna head to work, will talk more when I get there
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:52 AM
I may or may not be passed out by then, but feel free to spam me away and I'll get back prob when I wake up (just in case)
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 2:53 AM
ok
AragakiAyase - Yesterday at 10:01 PM
Why are you voting me again?
Nvm it's a shitpost
July 12, 2016
XelNya - Today at 12:37 AM
it kinda was kinda wasn't like I was pretty like "wait wat" when I did it

XelNya - Yesterday at 12:53 PM
Yo buddy, when you log in next:
Storn - Yesterday at 12:54 PM
Right now
XelNya - Yesterday at 12:54 PM
Wait it said you where offline
Storn - Yesterday at 12:54 PM
On mobile
XelNya - Yesterday at 12:54 PM
and when I said that it wasn't supposed to send, it was supposed to let me add more to it -_-"
Anyways, I have a question for you, has dabackpack stood out as a little scummy for the arnt push he made?
Storn - Yesterday at 12:56 PM
I didn't see anything pop out at me but again, I've been a little bit scatter brained. Let me look at his posts again
XelNya - Yesterday at 12:57 PM
Pretty much pages 13 and 4 to save you some time
13 and 14*
Storn - Yesterday at 1:01 PM
Thx.
I didn't see anything particularly scummy about it.
The scum nicest thing was how dbp was jumping around from player to player.
Scummiest* thx auto correct
XelNya - Yesterday at 1:03 PM
See the reason I ask is someone else alluded to that they might be leanin' him scum for the arnt push, and I wanted a random 3rd opinion
or rather that's inaccurate
it's more of a "looking back, it feels bad"
I don't wanna put words in their mouth, thas rood
Storn - Yesterday at 1:03 PM
I know dbp has his whole meta wolf thing, and if he were to try and break it, it would be likely that he would try in a mystery game. Perhaps he might be 3rd party but it's a bit of a stretch atm.
XelNya - Yesterday at 1:04 PM
It's worth keepin' in the back of the head tho
because I think there's gonna be some tom foolery later in the game
in fact part of me is weary of xiz's gimmick as maybe a "he wants to get lynched" thing
Storn - Yesterday at 1:05 PM
I really hate gimmicks. It always makes me feel like they're trying to use it to hide that they are a woof.
XelNya - Yesterday at 1:06 PM
heh
Storn - Yesterday at 1:06 PM
The only problem is when it's a town trying to have fun with said gimmick.
Btw, do you know of any game where dbp rolled 3rd party in the past? It might be worth the look. See how it lines up with his meya
XelNya - Yesterday at 1:09 PM
He's rolled SK a noteworthy time
I do not know what game it was
Storn - Yesterday at 1:10 PM
Alright. I'll try and look through to see if I can find it
Storn - Yesterday at 8:16 PM
I found it.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=143227
TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread TWG Archives
July 12, 2016
XelNya - Today at 12:16 AM
ahhh

ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:01 PM
Hi there
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:05 PM
Test
Wow, wasn't expected from you
Sorry for the test it didnt send the first time
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:08 PM
No? Why not?
Because I'm a first timer on FFR or because you have me at a wolfish lean?
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:09 PM
Most people dun go out their way to message me
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:09 PM
ah
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:09 PM
Its not too bad
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:09 PM
You're the only one who's pointed out the same thing as my suspicions, so I figured we should at least talk
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:10 PM
Ahhhhh
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:10 PM
You're the only one who's pointed out the same thing as my suspicions, so I figured we should at least talk
My strongest wolf suspect so far is drg
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:10 PM
I was gonna ask where you sat since your views of the game should be interesting
Considerin' I've never played with yah
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:11 PM
Yeah I was gonna ask you the same :3 I guess I can go first
You're a slight town lean but still unsure
You play well in the reference games I've read, so it could go either way
Charu wolf-lean but still a big question mark
drg I think slipped up in the beginning and was acting super defensive, then went on the offense to cover her tracks
Aragaki I thought was town-lean but after a PM conversation I'm a little worried I was wrong
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:13 PM
Charus kinda a wild card most the time
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:13 PM
Yeah lol I'm excited to play with him though
tbh
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:13 PM
I dunno why everyone is trying to tilt aa quick tho
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:14 PM
tilt? is that good or bad?
as in lynch?
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:15 PM
As in making aa rly mad which will unfocus him off scum hunting his usual way
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:16 PM
oh, bait him
why'd you suspect drg?
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:18 PM
Reminicent of her last scum game
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:20 PM
CLIII? I thought the same thing. Also the bit about being overly defensive about nothing and then going super offense out of nowhere and accusing three people, then handwaving it off as a joke
reference: these posts
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...0&postcount=71
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...0&postcount=74
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...0&postcount=78
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...0&postcount=66
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.
erm.. disregard, I thought the only thing I had to change to reference different posts was the number at the end.
these:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...4&postcount=74
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...9&postcount=78
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...2&postcount=66
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:25 PM
Ill read that when i get home
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:25 PM
yeah just the first one and the bottom three. didn't mean to post spam 😅
whenever you're free, I'm also interested in your views of the game so far and your thoughts on everyone. talk to you later (:
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:34 PM
^_^
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 6:46 PM
Ah, DBP came back with some tells. Interesting.
XelNya - Last Sunday at 6:53 PM
Dankpack is great
ShadoWolfe - Last Sunday at 7:05 PM
He is. Seems towny after talking to him
XelNya - Last Sunday at 9:04 PM
Ah you talked with dankpack?
July 11, 2016
XelNya - Yesterday at 12:19 AM
Skimmed the drg posts you linked, it's not those. L:iterally her prodding of roundbox is VERY reminicent of her inability to feign activity of scum hunting
Based on my assumptions
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 12:50 AM
At length, yes. He's either town or the best damned wolf ever born
But I'm still reserving judgment, it's far too early to tell in D0
My biggest concern atm is Charu. drg will reveal herself one way or another
XelNya - Yesterday at 1:59 AM
wait are you talkin dank pack or?
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:00 AM
Nah, Backpacks offline as far as I can tell
Goin over some things with MML
oh, you meant back then
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:00 AM
Yeah rofl
the "At length, yes. He's either town or the best damned wolf ever born"
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:01 AM
Yeah, though not to that extent anymore after re-reading our conversation several times
I'm giving him a fair town lean, though I can't be certain
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:02 AM
There's like kinda three people in this game that the more content is available, the more you can actually read into them / solidify the lean
sadly I am one of these people which BLOWS because I got nailed last game out of luck to some degree
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:04 AM
Hah, it's not just three
it's everyone
literally
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:05 AM
Well yeah sure that's true but like
dankpack, and myself have a meta tthat's based on the content + frequency
sometimes rather than what is said
if tthat makes sense
(Without self meta-ing too hard)
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:06 AM
lol really? Idk, couldn't you then just post more once you become aware of that?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
Yeah but I wouldn't say it's that easy
I've tried it to little success
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
Question:
What's your read on MML?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
mml isn't playing bad like, he's making good pings, keeping discussion rolling and isn't being so anti-thread
WHICH IS GREAT
last game had so much OOT that if you missed like zoom / discord video chats you were pretty much on the slate to die
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:13 AM
I'm glad is isn't like that, then! xD
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:13 AM
Like little details of his reads list
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:13 AM
that didn't really answer the question though
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:14 AM
"Arakagi seems to have been busy, but normally is from what I have read. With OoT on it's hard to tell just what all he has been up to. Really hoping he shares some of his conversations like he mentioned he would. Pretty neutral on him."

"Gradiant lurks but hasn't posted much. Apparently he too has been taking the game out of thread....? Well at least hit me up too, or post updates in thread now and again! Then again, I acknowledge he doesn't normally post alot D0."

stuff like that
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:14 AM
Sorry, I'm just curious what you think because I'm talking to him right now and always appreciate other opinioin
opinons*
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:14 AM
I know yer talkin' to him
he's talking to me
rofl
I have a random question for you
has red blastered talked with you at all
(He hasn't talked to me this game btw)
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
No I don't think he's talked to anyone
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
That's odd even for RB
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:20 AM
lol
yeah
I'm wary of him right now, if he shows up
and Charu, because of the lack of content and engagement
Gradiant is engaging with select people from the shadows, so he's null
but you still never gave me your opinion on MML! xD
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:23 AM
"mml isn't playing bad like, he's making good pings, keeping discussion rolling and isn't being so anti-thread
WHICH IS GREAT"

I figured you'd infer I was leaning him town atm
Let me drop a bit of log I guess to kinda side note the lean
XelNya - Today at 2:05 AM
See I think messaging everyone is a neutral thing
and scum AA is why I say that

MixMasterLar - Today at 2:06 AM
I think this is a two party game but I have no way of knowing. I will throw up if it's another mexican showdown
Oh?

XelNya - Today at 2:06 AM
in a past oot game tthat guy had town riding his nuts SO damned hard
Because he was pretty much playing town

MixMasterLar - Today at 2:06 AM
Who, Shado?

XelNya - Today at 2:06 AM
Aragaki
or spelling w.e
He literally said to us in OOT "I am town outside of this chat"
and fuck man did he stick to it
scum AA in OOT is fuckin' scary
But where I am going with that is
you get a hyped scum player who knows how to play town super well, and can stick to it, damn mang
and I dun want that to be the case with shado
I have zero idea what he is actually like, which is why I'm still cautious
But like his PM game is on point

MixMasterLar - Today at 2:09 AM
I have reserves but he seems full on detective mode
I don't think scum would really need to work that hard, and while AA has played the game super hardcore for awhile and knows the meta, I dont think the same applies to Shado
THAT SAID
He's in chat with me right now and I don't really get a super clear town read from him.
He's trying to sale me the idea that Driz is a wold based on PMs

XelNya - Today at 2:11 AM
drg is newer to the game so I dunno what she's like in pms
tldr: guy's scum huntin'
or at least, to a point where I am content
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:26 AM
xD good
I'm getting the same read, but wanted to verify with you since I had you at basically null with a slight town lean
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:27 AM
Seems to be that you and I are on similar thought lengths
don't you try and pocket me fren
jk
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:28 AM
lmao
I hadn't even heard that term before MML used it on me
in thread
and I'm like
ohhhhhhhhhh
how apt!
I'm not tryna pocket you, but I AM trying to use you
you know these people. so does MML, so does every single other one of you
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:29 AM
Don't we all use each other in OOT games
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:29 AM
so if I have to talk to every single damned one of you to get you to spill the dirtiest shit against the others, I'm col with it
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:30 AM
That explains why you're chattin' with everyone
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:30 AM
yup
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:30 AM
You're uh, definantly used to this sort of game then
VERY good to know
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:30 AM
hahaha I told you, I'm a total noob!
XD
First game on FFR's gotta count for something
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:30 AM
yeah and no like
I try my best not to give people the noob card
It ruins the flow of the game imho and allows a good scum team an easy way to conceal their scum buddy
well, till they're all caught
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:31 AM
Hm
Well, I'm just doing my best to not let me noobiness online hinder me
and that means getting intimately familiar with all of you
You know how he said I'm trying to sell him on DRG being scum based on PMs?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:33 AM
yeeeeep
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:33 AM
It's totes true. I'm not fully sold myself, but I'm nearing 85% now.. everything she does just reaffirms it
Before the game started
drizzleRomanceGirl - Last Friday at 8:20 PM
no problem 😃
we should team up when the game starts XD
because we had had a two hour conversation that included sharing pics of oregon and california and cool shit
then as soon as the game started, she went completely cold
so I tried reaching out to her after all the shit happened where I thought she was mafia
I figured if she was town she'd at least talk to me normally in PM
but she was on appear offline the whole time I was talking to her, and she seemed super on edge. I can share the PMS with you too if you want, but I'm just saying it's pretty fishy
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:36 AM
hmmm
mYabe I'll shoot her a pm see what I get
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
do it. I think she's actually offline now but she'll get back to you eventually
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:59 AM
that AA log post is HUGE
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 3:00 AM
it's very nice
beautiful to look at
all the data 😄
doesn't really tell me much though, other than everyone knows I think DRG is a wolf
whelp, the roundbox conversation was very informative
ShadoWolfe - Yesterday at 4:20 PM
Oh, have you received any pm or word from xiz, by any chance?
XelNya - Yesterday at 6:57 PM
He said no to rb having contacted him

XelNya - Yesterday at 2:22 AM
yo question for you if you'd care to answer (Let me preemptively answer my own question from my POV: No)

Has red blaster tried to chat with you at all?
Xiz - Yesterday at 8:43 AM
http://puu.sh/pXqUm/3fa057eacc.png

XelNya - Yesterday at 12:45 PM
danke

XelNya - Yesterday at 2:22 AM
yo question for you if you'd care to answer (Let me preemptively answer my own question from my POV: No)

Has red blaster tried to chat with you at all?
DaBackpack - Yesterday at 12:40 PM
nope
XelNya - Yesterday at 12:44 PM
I figured

MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 12:53 AM
I responded to you in thread
I'm also about to double check Driz I think she contradicted herself
Oh no she didn't, I'm stupid.
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:00 AM
Yeh mang like I missed the "but I wouldn't be a good person to ask"
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:01 AM
lol your cool. I don't take games that seriously
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:01 AM
I try not to as well, but as I kinda implied in the thread, last game has me mad and I wanna play a good game this time rofl
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:02 AM
I get ya. READ THE SETUP kinda sucked for me so I want to actually be able to have the game play out without folks being silly
So, what are your thoughts on people so far?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:03 AM
Let me ask you something first, do you feel this is a two party game or three
because in the past
these games get fucking dumb the longer it goes
But either way
dankpack and wolf sorta sit at the top of my town pile
or rather, shadowolfe I guess would be better to say
and shado is based on pms
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:05 AM
Yeah he seems to be messaging everybody. Which does strike me as town
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:05 AM
See I think messaging everyone is a neutral thing
and scum AA is why I say that
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:06 AM
I think this is a two party game but I have no way of knowing. I will throw up if it's another mexican showdown
Oh?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:06 AM
in a past oot game tthat guy had town riding his nuts SO damned hard
Because he was pretty much playing town
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:06 AM
Who, Shado?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:06 AM
Aragaki
or spelling w.e
He literally said to us in OOT "I am town outside of this chat"
and fuck man did he stick to it
scum AA in OOT is fuckin' scary
But where I am going with that is
you get a hyped scum player who knows how to play town super well, and can stick to it, damn mang
and I dun want that to be the case with shado
I have zero idea what he is actually like, which is why I'm still cautious
But like his PM game is on point
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
I have reserves but he seems full on detective mode
I don't think scum would really need to work that hard, and while AA has played the game super hardcore for awhile and knows the meta, I dont think the same applies to Shado
THAT SAID
He's in chat with me right now and I don't really get a super clear town read from him.
He's trying to sale me the idea that Driz is a wold based on PMs
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
drg is newer to the game so I dunno what she's like in pms
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:12 AM
He did point this out:

ShadoWolfe - Today at 4:07 AM
nope, I'm probably not one of them lol
funny thing is
drizzleRomanceGirl - Last Friday at 8:20 PM
no problem 😃
we should team up when the game starts XD
this is before the game started, we were super chummy
then the instant it started she went totes cold. That's another thing that's been bugging me
MixMasterLar - Today at 4:11 AM
Hm
That is telling all right.

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If that has a shred of truth to it it is pretty damning if what everything else he copies is accurate.
But IDK about this Drix hypetrain, not yet anyway.
I wish she would have responded to me before she left like 30 minutes ago
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:14 AM
is there any context to the first message he sent
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:15 AM
Oh sorry
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:15 AM
I'm only asking to make sure I interpret it correctly
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:15 AM
Driz told him she had 2 town reads but didn't tell what they where
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:15 AM
Yeah drizzle is like
She has some reminicent posts of her latest scum game
but it feels like she's trying something new
like she sorta has this xiz approach right now
He will divulge he has thoughts, not say what they are, get a response he wants, then drop what they were
And it's really interesting to watch how people react to it
But I dunno if drizzle is doing that or not
like RB is kinda playing this OOT game like shrugs last game in thread
but I wonder
if he's PMed anyone
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:18 AM
Not me, at least
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:18 AM
Hm
I'mma shoot xiz and dank pack a message and see if they get to me on it
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:20 AM
This just dropped. I asked him this out of the blue and he responded super likity-split like.

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MixMasterLar - Today at 4:11 AM
Hm
That is telling all right.
Lemme ask you something, this time.
ShadoWolfe - Today at 4:14 AM
Go for it.
MixMasterLar - Today at 4:14 AM
Why do you prefer being a wolf? what's the best part of it?
ShadoWolfe - Today at 4:14 AM
Well, you have to understand that most of my experience is IRL
IRL, wolf is just absolutely the funnest role
Village townie is totes boring irl. Here, I'm actually enjoying it because there's so much discussion
IRL it's like, BAM phase over BAM phase over BAM phase over
so cop and mafia are funnest because you get to actually engage
Idk what wolf is like online, I've never played one in MafiaScum and I'm not one here
MixMasterLar - Today at 4:16 AM
Word
ShadoWolfe - Today at 4:17 AM
So yeah, when I said, "I wanted to be wolf"
It's definitely true because I wanted a special role
but like, the more I play this with y'all
every single person is equally important, and it's fascinating to see the interplay of actually discussion and logic, as opposed the bullshit I was exposed to on mafiascum and the significant loss of content that comes with fast-paced IRL games
Idk if that makes sense to you, but I tried to explain it as best I could
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Not sure how you read that but it makes me feel a little better. In context my question was random as hell.
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:28 AM
ehhhh
I wouldn't sday it's too random
Like you're playin' with someone who is from the outside and has a view that doesn't align with yours
what's the harm in trying to get their mindset
could help you figure out where they're trying to go with posts and moves they make
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:30 AM
Well, I was trying to catch him offguard, when he made that "rather be a wolf" comment that he referred to I sat there and let the conversation move away from it first.

But he didn't seem fazed by it, so either he's being legitor he is a pro wold
legit or*
wolf*
Can't type sorry
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:32 AM
It's alright I type too fast in PMs and don't bother proofreading them
so I typo lots
or I typo due to being on my cell at work
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:32 AM
word
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:32 AM
to dankpack's mother
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:33 AM
rofl
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:33 AM
No seriously I see his avi and just
I can't unsee it
if he ever changes it I'll be sad
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:33 AM
haha
Say,
Heard from Gradiant at all?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:34 AM
Nah but uh, I wouldn't say Jake and I tend to get along immensely well
Mostly due to me
XD
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:34 AM
Gotcha.

After he made that "Take the initiative" post I reached out to him
At around noon. It's now 4:35am
He juuuust signed off I think. Pretty sure he's been on Discord for most of the time
Signed off after not having responded at all.
I wonder if he just doesn't do PMs, or if he just didn't think a conversation with me would yield any fruit
Blah why did I say noon
12AM is not noon
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
hmmm who would jake pm this game...
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
Still, 5 hours
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:38 AM
I'm kinda semi-selective who I'd talk to
Like tbh if arnt PM'd me I'd prob ignore him
I don't like him much
(As a character, not in agme that is.)
and if botchi was in this game I'd prob outright block him 'cause you know
I'm maddo about last game
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
I gotcha.
He actually messaged me accusing me of scum and then after I gave a reply concluded I wasn't scum and moved on
I figure he would do this to more then me, has he messaged you or naw?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
Gradiant? Nah.
Pep's I've PM'd are AA you shado and I sent a message to dbp and xiz so I'mma see if that ball will get rolling
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:41 AM
I meant Arnt that last one
Arnt accused me of being scum trying to bait me
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:46 AM
arnt and I prob won't talk at all
even if the door is opened by him
I'll leave him to everyone else along with charu
Xiz I wanna see his d1 + the nightkill before I move on it
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:50 AM
Mind if I ask why on Xiz?
He just doesn't seem wolfy atm to you?
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:51 AM
More like
Xiz likes to gimmick HARD
And just gettin' thru that takes time
I don't wanna be hasty like
he's null
BUT
some PM's with him could change my mind
either way
Like I see a lot of what xiz goes for with his play, which tends to be super goddamned awkward
Just where I'm going is I wanna see how he acts when he's not using his images
and the nightkill kinda matters I get the feeling of
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 2:54 AM
Alright, sound reasoning
He def aint giving us much to work with at this point
XelNya - Yesterday at 2:56 AM
Xiz is kinda like that, he likes to force responses and pushes
Just I'm curious what's going on in pms
that AA log post is HUGE
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 3:00 AM
Yeah reading it now
Well now that is all out


Thoughts?
XelNya - Yesterday at 3:19 AM
the roundbox one is insightful and helpful for reads
the gradiant one is weird
"are you allowed to tell me who your shipgirl is
I'll tell you mine
although I guess there's no reason to, I'm just curious
nvm then"
or rather it's interesting
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 3:23 AM
AA has stated that he did talk with Gradiant in VC though. I asked what the timeframe between the two conversations where for reference but I think AA is at work now
As for the shipgirl thing
seems he only asked Gradiant. IDK maybe Grad knows the game
XelNya - Yesterday at 3:23 AM
he's on his way to work when he left that's what he told me
PS: Shado's beginning response to him is fucking amazing
I'm dying of laughs
MixMasterLar - Yesterday at 3:28 AM
Dude same
I had to compliment him on Discord for that one
XelNya - Yesterday at 3:30 AM
XD