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  • T-Force
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    • Jan 2007
    • 4753

    #241
    Re: Song Corrections Thread

    - 'Zephon' by DJ Sharpnel should be titled 'World Sound'.

    - 'Legend of Zelda Remix' by The Rabbit Joint should be titled 'Rabbit Joint Cover' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00022)

    - 'SuperMario 8bit Eighties Remix' by Injury and Koji Kondo should be titled '8-bit Eighties' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00428)

    - 'Crystalis - House Leaves (Long)' by SNK remixed by Neostorm and 'Crystalis - House Leaves (Remix)' by SNK remixed by Neostorm should be renamed to 'House Leaves' and 'House Leaves [Cut]' respectively. As well, to maintain consistency with other songs of similar ilk, the artist should be Neostorm and Yoko Osaka, or just Neostorm. (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00734)
    If the latter change occurs, then 8-bit Eighties should just be credited to Injury.

    - 'Bubble Bobble Hillbilly Rodeo' by djpretzel should be titled 'Hillbilly Rodeo'. As well, if you want to keep the trend of remixer followed by the composer, the artist should also read djpretzel and Tadashi Kimijima. (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00015)
    Last edited by T-Force; 04-9-2022, 04:06 PM.
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    • XelNya
      [Kaho]
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      • Sep 2012
      • 3369

      #242
      Re: Song Corrections Thread

      Just checked, The Frozen Bond requirement

      Get at least 2 average-misses on "Improvisation et Chien" while keeping your averages, boos, and misses all the same number and pass it to unlock Frozen Bond.

      Should be reworded to

      Pass "Improvisation et Chien" with 0 Goods, 2 Averages, 2 Misses & 2 Boos, while keeping your Averages, Misses, and Boos all the same number to unlock Frozen Bond.

      Is probably the only miss on the rework that I care about currently. I get the idea was to reference the old glitch due to it being particularly noted here, but a new player would just get confused here, especially even with the history, the boo count is also the same for some reason.

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      • jh05013
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        • Nov 2013
        • 291

        #243
        Re: Song Corrections Thread

        Originally posted by T-Force
        - 'Legend of Zelda Remix' by The Rabbit Joint should be titled 'Rabbit Joint Cover' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00022)
        The original title is 'Zelda'. It was first released in the author's own album, and posted to OCRemix 2 years later: https://summervillains.bandcamp.com/...e-rabbit-joint
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        • jacobvl39
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          • Nov 2021
          • 74

          #244
          Re: Song Corrections Thread

          Not sure if this is the right thread for it, but I think Fill Me Up With Snacky Happiness should have an [explicit] tag

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          • gold stinger
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            • Jan 2007
            • 6428

            #245
            Re: Song Corrections Thread

            Originally posted by jacobvl39
            Not sure if this is the right thread for it, but I think Fill Me Up With Snacky Happiness should have an [explicit] tag
            This is the right thread for it.

            [Explicit] tag is reserved for songs that contain swearing or lyrics that are 18+. Since this song contains no lyrics, it might be a little bit hard to push for an [Explicit] tag here unless people think it should extend to suggestive sounds. Slashmaid notably falls within this same group.

            Originally posted by jh05013
            The original title is 'Zelda'. It was first released in the author's own album, and posted to OCRemix 2 years later: https://summervillains.bandcamp.com/...e-rabbit-joint
            Originally posted by T-Force
            - 'Zephon' by DJ Sharpnel should be titled 'World Sound'.

            - 'Legend of Zelda Remix' by The Rabbit Joint should be titled 'Rabbit Joint Cover' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00022)

            - 'SuperMario 8bit Eighties Remix' by Injury and Koji Kondo should be titled '8-bit Eighties' (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00428)

            - 'Crystalis - House Leaves (Long)' by SNK remixed by Neostorm and 'Crystalis - House Leaves (Remix)' by SNK remixed by Neostorm should be renamed to 'House Leaves' and 'House Leaves [Cut]' respectively. As well, to maintain consistency with other songs of similar ilk, the artist should be Neostorm and Yoko Osaka, or just Neostorm. (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00734)
            If the latter change occurs, then 8-bit Eighties should just be credited to Injury.

            - 'Bubble Bobble Hillbilly Rodeo' by djpretzel should be titled 'Hillbilly Rodeo'. As well, if you want to keep the trend of remixer followed by the composer, the artist should also read djpretzel and Tadashi Kimijima. (https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00015)
            I'm good with changing House Leaves after listening to both of them. Same with Hillbilly Rodeo. Zephon can be done as well, but needs re-naming for Token content.

            I would want more community input on 'Legend of Zelda Remix' and 'SuperMario 8bit Eighties Remix' before seeing them changed.

            Again, same reason as seeking change on Molto Vivace. These are already Legacy songs hidden from the public. Changing their names will drastically change how players will find said songs, and internet indexing of said songs (incl. google searching). For some Legacy songs, FFR is the only place to have said song. If most of you that care to give feedback on this agree with a change, I'm down for it, just things that should be cautiously thought about.

            Originally posted by XelNya
            Just checked, The Frozen Bond requirement

            Get at least 2 average-misses on "Improvisation et Chien" while keeping your averages, boos, and misses all the same number and pass it to unlock Frozen Bond.

            Should be reworded to

            Pass "Improvisation et Chien" with 0 Goods, 2 Averages, 2 Misses & 2 Boos, while keeping your Averages, Misses, and Boos all the same number to unlock Frozen Bond.

            Is probably the only miss on the rework that I care about currently. I get the idea was to reference the old glitch due to it being particularly noted here, but a new player would just get confused here, especially even with the history, the boo count is also the same for some reason.
            Fixed.

            Originally posted by trumaestro
            Should maybe distinguish BEER! and BEER. Would make BEER! [Psychostick] and BEER [Is-m]

            Would also then need to update the token text for BEER [Is-m]

            Also suggest listing out the songs required to unlock You Gotta B-E-E-R! in its token requirement
            Sure. Will get this done today.
            Originally posted by YoshL
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            • trumaestro
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              • Jun 2006
              • 1332

              #246
              Re: Song Corrections Thread

              Originally posted by gold stinger
              This is the right thread for it.

              [Explicit] tag is reserved for songs that contain swearing or lyrics that are 18+. Since this song contains no lyrics, it might be a little bit hard to push for an [Explicit] tag here unless people think it should extend to suggestive sounds. Slashmaid notably falls within this same group.
              The explicit tag is woefully under-utilized and not an ideal solution. More ideal imo would be like the Legacy genre but that's a separate discussion.

              It does make sense to expand its use to include suggestive audio like in Snacky Happiness or Slashmaid or Manhattan Lover etc. That'd be in line with the "PG-13" level the site has always maintained.

              Labelling every necessary song with an explicit tag represents a pretty major project. It's been brought up a few times in the past (most recently was probably here). It'd be nice to see but not urgently needed.

              Originally posted by gold stinger
              I would want more community input on 'Legend of Zelda Remix' and 'SuperMario 8bit Eighties Remix' before seeing them changed.

              Again, same reason as seeking change on Molto Vivace. These are already Legacy songs hidden from the public. Changing their names will drastically change how players will find said songs, and internet indexing of said songs (incl. google searching). For some Legacy songs, FFR is the only place to have said song. If most of you that care to give feedback on this agree with a change, I'm down for it, just things that should be cautiously thought about.
              FFR should still align its credit with whatever the artist has intended re:title. I don't really buy the fact that they're legacy files as a reason to keep them incorrectly attributed. Zelda and 8bit Eighties are good to change to, as T-Force brought up.

              For Molto, you can maybe compromise by renaming it "Transcendental Etude No. 2 (Molto Vivace)" if others feel it's important to keep the "Molto Vivace." But to me that seems clunky. I think a rename to "Transcendental Etude No. 2" is fine. The fact that it's in the legacy genre is enough for folks to find it.

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              • Zlyice
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                • Dec 2009
                • 272

                #247
                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                Originally posted by trumaestro
                The explicit tag is woefully under-utilized and not an ideal solution. More ideal imo would be like the Legacy genre but that's a separate discussion.

                It does make sense to expand its use to include suggestive audio like in Snacky Happiness or Slashmaid or Manhattan Lover etc. That'd be in line with the "PG-13" level the site has always maintained.
                I agree that the explicit tag would be well used in these scenarios. I think Pervs and The Epidemic of Unexpected Relapses should also be on this list.


                Originally posted by trumaestro
                FFR should still align its credit with whatever the artist has intended re:title. I don't really buy the fact that they're legacy files as a reason to keep them incorrectly attributed. Zelda and 8bit Eighties are good to change to, as T-Force brought up.
                Agreed here too that titles of legacy files should be changed to make sure they are properly attributed. With all of the files that have had their titles fixed lately (some of which that are now under a correct title that is entirely distinct from what it was historically titled on FFR), I feel like legacy files should be receiving the same treatment.

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                • jh05013
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                  • Nov 2013
                  • 291

                  #248
                  Re: Song Corrections Thread

                  Forgot to mention this earlier, but Zelda doesn't actually have the Yoshi bonus round. idk what to do with it lol

                  EDIT: S (without Venetian Snares) should be renamed to S [Y.W].
                  Last edited by jh05013; 04-11-2022, 02:36 AM.
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                  • Snupeh
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                    • Aug 2016
                    • 160

                    #249
                    Re: Song Corrections Thread

                    Note that if they are a token, or if they are mentioned in the token unlock requirements, these changes must also be made on the token pages as well.

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                    • gold stinger
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                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6428

                      #250
                      Re: Song Corrections Thread

                      Originally posted by trumaestro
                      The explicit tag is woefully under-utilized and not an ideal solution. More ideal imo would be like the Legacy genre but that's a separate discussion.
                      To have a bit of this discussion, I've asked about the feasibility of adding another genre to filter Legacy like it currently is but runs into two (three) issues.

                      (1) Zero backwards compatibility to previous engines (if you're not WirryWoo skip this)

                      (2) Requires an engine update (currently going through repo hell atm if you are on-top of the MP re-write)

                      (3) Requires a database website-side update (I've been told it's impossible currently but it's more likely that there are multiple road blocks here where if done incorrectly, would cause another 2018 score purge so there's mostly fearmongering here).

                      Hence the workaround of just using an [Explicit] tag since that's a relatively simple text edit that doesn't require multiple devs and screaming ape noises.

                      Originally posted by jh05013
                      EDIT: S (without Venetian Snares) should be renamed to S [Y.W].
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                      Last edited by gold stinger; 04-13-2022, 10:28 AM.
                      Originally posted by YoshL
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                      • XelNya
                        [Kaho]
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 3369

                        #251
                        Re: Song Corrections Thread

                        Originally posted by gold stinger
                        To have a bit of this discussion, I've asked about the feasibility of adding another genre to filter Legacy like it currently is but runs into two (three) issues.

                        (1) Zero backwards compatibility to previous engines (if you're not WirryWoo skip this)

                        (2) Requires an engine update (currently going through repo hell atm if you are on-top of the MP re-write)

                        (3) Requires a database website-side update (I've been told it's impossible currently but it's more likely that there are multiple road blocks here where if done incorrectly, would cause another 2018 score purge so there's mostly fearmongering here).

                        Hence the workaround of just using an [Explicit] tag since that's a relatively simple text edit that doesn't require multiple devs and screaming ape noises.



                        gotchu fam
                        It would just be easier to add the "Explicit" tag to any song with one of the "gamer" words, and leave the rest alone. I'd further concede the idea that maybe removing them from public ranks is a path the site can take to make dodging those works avoidable for those who want to, but anything further would be heinous overkill.

                        Though, I'd probably add Slashmaid to the list just because of the type of song it is, and TBH that being played with no knowledge, I can see the issues that might come up given folks stream the game, or play without headphones on. (In case someone is reading this and are unaware - a girl is getting just fucked throughout the whole song with some rock / metal elements in the background. It's a weird piece. It might be bannable on a streaming site if it got brought up to them.)

                        tldr I just wanna say I think the guy suggesting the other changes rn is being silly. But maybe taking a site consensus to which songs deserve the tag might be more productive.
                        Last edited by XelNya; 04-13-2022, 12:14 PM. Reason: goldstinger continues to not miss btw

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                        • jh05013
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                          • Nov 2013
                          • 291

                          #252
                          Re: Song Corrections Thread

                          The author Shiki should be capitalized as SHIKI. (this doesn't apply to Emotional Adventure since that's a different author)
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                          • Ghost_Medley
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                            • Dec 2013
                            • 703

                            #253
                            Re: Song Corrections Thread

                            Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                            So it turns out the original title for Husigi Usagi Milk Tei is フシギ☆ウサギ☆ミルク☆テイ from 2007. It is Yuuyu's remix of his own 2006 work which was titled フシギモノガタリ, or Fushigi Monotagari/"Wonderful Things". Google Translate roughly translates Husigi Usagi Milk Tei to "The Mystifying Rabbit" in english.
                            I recalled this, and I wanted some clarification on why the title of the file in-game uses "Husigi" and not "Fushigi". "フシギ" is maintained between both song titles, so the romaji transliteration should be the latter, right?

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                            • gold stinger
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                              #254
                              Re: Song Corrections Thread

                              Originally posted by jh05013
                              The author Shiki should be capitalized as SHIKI. (this doesn't apply to Emotional Adventure since that's a different author)
                              Fixed.

                              Originally posted by Ghost_Medley
                              I recalled this, and I wanted some clarification on why the title of the file in-game uses "Husigi" and not "Fushigi". "フシギ" is maintained between both song titles, so the romaji transliteration should be the latter, right?
                              Ehh, why not.

                              edit: actually did small researching, it's because the original mp3 references 'husigi'. https://web.archive.org/web/20071001...usigi_bb_2.mp3

                              I changed it anyways, but debate welcome.
                              Last edited by gold stinger; 04-17-2022, 01:07 PM.
                              Originally posted by YoshL
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                              • jh05013
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                                • Nov 2013
                                • 291

                                #255
                                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                                R8U Another should be titled just R8U. "Another" is a BMS difficulty label.

                                EDIT: seems fixed now. Thanks!
                                Last edited by jh05013; 04-22-2022, 04:13 AM.
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