Permissions List and Information v8

[noname219]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

cover songs are someone's own interpretation of a previously existing work (like a remix), of which there are many in FFR whom we have permissions for, but not the original work.

As long as you're using the cover or remix, and not the original if we don't have permission for the original. Not to be mistaken with reproducing the original work.

There's of course an exception to this, the cover must keep the same lyrics. A translation for example while keeping the same arrangements would be deemed a substantial change (derivative work) and would require permission from the original copyright holder.

Remixes are something else, by law, you need to get permission from the copyright holder (and in our case, to use it in-game).

In the case of remixes, if we don't have permission from the original artist, *technically* we could receive cease and desist letters. There's some leeway since we are non-profit.

The key word here is "derivative work" :
a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work.

[gold stinger]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

There's of course an exception to this, the cover must keep the same lyrics. A translation for example while keeping the same arrangements would be deemed a substantial change (derivative work) and would require permission from the original copyright holder.

Remixes are something else, by law, you need to get permission from the copyright holder (and in our case, to use it in-game).

In the case of remixes, if we don't have permission from the original artist, *technically* we could receive cease and desist letters. There's some leeway since we are non-profit.

The key word here is "derivative work" :
a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work.

Was on the assumption that the person we had permissions for was blanket permission unless otherwise stated (as they usually do regarding stuff like this), but yes. This as well.

We can go down a crazy rabbit hole about what is / isn't 'derivative work' and what is fair game on 'remixes'. But without making the breakdown on what is / isn't usable complicated, it's ok as long as it's blanket permissions, or there's no restrictions on the content they've made. Creative Commons permissions are OK, as long as they don't have a ND (No Derivatives) extension to the license, unless the version of the license is 1.0. (99% of people use 2.0, 3.0, or 4.0 licenses now, because 1.0 is massively outdated due to a flaw, so good luck finding one.)

[qrrbrbirbel]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

https://i.imgur.com/YJp7iWg.png

hidden machine perms!

[xXOpkillerXx]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

Zeppy perms get ! (a creator from Clone Hero)

[gold stinger]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

Minecraft asset (audio) permissions under these guidelines:

- NOT make people think that you or what you are doing is official; approved or endorsed by us; or associated or connected with us;
- NOT be unlawful, deceptive, obscene, harmful or disparaging;
- NOT take action that would harm or damage any of our Brands or any of our Assets;
- NOT include anything else around it that makes people think that you or what you are doing is official; approved or endorsed by us; or associated or connected with us;

- do so in a way that honestly and fairly describes those things or the purpose of them;
- ensure that the Name (which includes any confusingly similar name) is not the first word, doesn't use any - other aspect of any of our Brands or Assets as part of any related branding, including as or as part of any logo;
- make it clear that the product is unofficial and not from Minecraft or approved by Minecraft.

tl;dr
- credit the music author, not Minecraft
- can't promote the game as "having music from Minecraft" or implying partnership or official ties with Minecraft
- can't use their content as promotion for the game itself

Follow those, and you can technically use Minecraft's music in-game, since Minecraft is ok with its use in non-commercial ventures under these guidelines. Can read more about it here. https://account.mojang.com/documents/brand_guidelines

[noname219]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

Have we asked death grips for permission to use their self-released music in the past?
I'm aware people can still have the rights to own their self-released things

Not to my knowledge. They do have their own label for everything other than The Money Store (which was released on Epic), so it's possible but very unlikely they would give permission.

Minecraft asset (audio) permissions under these guidelines:

- NOT make people think that you or what you are doing is official; approved or endorsed by us; or associated or connected with us;
- NOT be unlawful, deceptive, obscene, harmful or disparaging;
- NOT take action that would harm or damage any of our Brands or any of our Assets;
- NOT include anything else around it that makes people think that you or what you are doing is official; approved or endorsed by us; or associated or connected with us;

- do so in a way that honestly and fairly describes those things or the purpose of them;
- ensure that the Name (which includes any confusingly similar name) is not the first word, doesn't use any - other aspect of any of our Brands or Assets as part of any related branding, including as or as part of any logo;
- make it clear that the product is unofficial and not from Minecraft or approved by Minecraft.

tl;dr
- credit the music author, not Minecraft
- can't promote the game as "having music from Minecraft" or implying partnership or official ties with Minecraft
- can't use their content as promotion for the game itself

Follow those, and you can technically use Minecraft's music in-game, since Minecraft is ok with its use in non-commercial ventures under these guidelines. Can read more about it here. https://account.mojang.com/documents/brand_guidelines

Added Minecraft to Post #4.

[hi19hi19]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

Seems like everything from the klassik-resampled song library is CC-BY-NC-ND (http://klassik.sfahl.de/index.php/en...sum1/copyright) and so this site might be a good place to look for recordings of classical music if IMSLP falls short.

http://klassik.sfahl.de/index.php/en/

The reconstructions are a little robotic, but might be a great source for stuff like concertos and symphonies that are very famous and recognizable but basically don't have public domain/non-copyright recordings simply because of their difficulty and scale.
Just a thought.

EDIT- as usual for this kind of embedded mp3 player, you can yoink the .mp3s straight from the player even for the ones that don't have a download link by viewing the source and appending the .mp3 link from the player directly to http://klassik.sfahl.de/audio/...whatever.mp3
wow so hackerman

[trumaestro]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

Seems like everything from the klassik-resampled song library is CC-BY-NC-ND (http://klassik.sfahl.de/index.php/en...sum1/copyright) and so this site might be a good place to look for recordings of classical music if IMSLP falls short.

http://klassik.sfahl.de/index.php/en/

The reconstructions are a little robotic, but might be a great source for stuff like concertos and symphonies that are very famous and recognizable but basically don't have public domain/non-copyright recordings simply because of their difficulty and scale.
Just a thought.

EDIT- as usual for this kind of embedded mp3 player, you can yoink the .mp3s straight from the player even for the ones that don't have a download link by viewing the source and appending the .mp3 link from the player directly to http://klassik.sfahl.de/audio/...whatever.mp3
wow so hackerman

The consensus on creative commons licenses for FFR is that ND is generally a no-go. FFR could be considered building upon the work which ND explicitly denies. Version 1.0 appears to be okay, but that's a grey area. This website's copyright date is in 2009 and creative commons was at 3.0 by then.

Other licenses are okay.

[gold stinger]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

The consensus on creative commons licenses for FFR is that ND is generally a no-go. FFR could be considered building upon the work which ND explicitly denies. Version 1.0 appears to be okay, but that's a grey area. This website's copyright date is in 2009 and creative commons was at 3.0 by then.

Other licenses are okay.

Can confirm this. ND is a no-go. tl;dr, 'adaptive works' were not originally classified as a derivative in 1.0 versions of the license, which is what FFR falls under, since we're adapting the work to be in sync with other content. All ND-related licenses have specifically pointed this out and included adaptive works as a derivative in all licenses beyond 1.0 stating:

For purposes of this Public License, where the Licensed Material is a musical work, performance, or sound recording, Adapted Material is always produced where the Licensed Material is synched in timed relation with a moving image.

[hi19hi19]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

The consensus on creative commons licenses for FFR is that ND is generally a no-go. FFR could be considered building upon the work which ND explicitly denies. Version 1.0 appears to be okay, but that's a grey area. This website's copyright date is in 2009 and creative commons was at 3.0 by then.

Other licenses are okay.

ah, my bad then

[choof]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

got permissions from Deathmachine (https://djdeathmachine.bandcamp.com/) to use a song called Synapsids VIP, since I already have a chart for it

Have we asked death grips for permission to use their self-released music in the past?
I'm aware people can still have the rights to own their self-released things

I asked a few years ago but never got a response so I assumed they weren't interested

[ositzxz369]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

more blanket perms from ur local breakcore community (s8n & Ayane Fukumi). I'm "Songs About My Za's" in this pic.

FILLER SPACE

Here's Ayane Fukumi (there's a few steppers here who already know his works) - https://ayanefukumi.bandcamp.com/
Here's some good MSIcore from s8n/Pseudosilent - https://pseudosilent.bandcamp.com/al...ore-indulgence

[T-Force]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

Oh snap, friend of friend Roy Berardo just gave perms for his stuff!
He would like to be contacted on a case-by-case basis for songs, and can be reached on Discord at: Roy_Berardo #5387


Roy composed music for a new Portal mod recently, and other stuff of his can be found here:

https://soundcloud.com/roy-berardo-official

https://royberardo.bandcamp.com/

[WirryWoo]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

Got permissions from Two Steps From Hell.

[M0nkeyz]

Re: Permissions List and Information v8

This is such an insane permission get man