jTWG LXV: The Revenge of the Return of the Son of jTWG

[ohsosilly]

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Oh right, and (unrelated to the game) much love to Yoshl for using the world "histrionic." One of my faves.

[RNGRX]

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I agree I overreacted quite a bit earlier. When all the people you knew and trusted soon have to be sacrificed one at a time, I couldn't exactly just keep to myself. I guess I settled down a bit now and accepted this. I'm sorry for the possible troubles my reaction may have caused you.

[soramimi]

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Yosh very well could be red also. Wolves can put pressure on other wolves for the sake of trying to distance themselves, so that if one gets flipped, town assumes "oh, they targeted x, so x must be human because wolves want to get humans lynched!"

At this point though, even if Yosh is a wolf, I'd rather he stays in the game for now. He's generated a lot of discussion and made pushes. I think at least until we get the hang of things, we kind of need him around to give us those prompts. It doesn't mean I won't look into him, but I wouldn't want to target him *yet*.

On that note, I'm likely not going to be basing my lynch on who I find 'wolfiest' but rather who isn't contributing. Lynching inactives is a terrible strategy, and I'm aware of that, but I don't see the sense of keeping someone who won't add to the conversations.
So, inactive players, take this time to change my mind on this. I really don't want to go after someone because of this, but I don't feel it's fair to remove a player who is actually trying in this game, especially since it's jtwg and we're all here to learn.

[YoshL]

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p.s. ohsosilly, while it's a good attempt, generalizing wolf behavior or even town behavior to everyone is pretty bad; meta reads while they can go both ways work generally better when applied to character rather than general strategies

if you want to really put in meta, i'd recommend reading up on every game possible and seeing patterns emerge from there. one game does not a pattern make

i've played with trev + sora a couple times/hosted for them or something. i forget though

i don't meta read usually, i'll just attack people don't worry about me

as for wolf kills and me being sacrificed early, i really don't want to get too far into this, because it adds an extra level of meta that's stupid. you can easily discern a crapton of reasonings behind a wolf kill.

i will say that medic has a really important job this game, in both terms of reading the situation during the nights correctly, and getting hella fuccen lucky. that's all i'm going to go into, no more of discussing night kills

as for prawn, i'm liking the lynch on him even more and more. his most recent post implies that he's read the whole thread, and yet for some reason is declining to post even any bit of speculation that he has, even though he's been asked to like 10 times by now.

also "my chance of successfully lynching someone" from prawn kinda indicates that he feels alone. In a group where 7/9 people should be on your side, there's something about his mindset that screams "i'm fighting against the majority". This is even further amplified by the fact that wolves haven't had a chance to talk to eachother privately yet

to reiterate, prawnskank

[soramimi]

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ps what is our votecount currently?

[ohsosilly]

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p.s. ohsosilly, while it's a good attempt, generalizing wolf behavior or even town behavior to everyone is pretty bad; meta reads while they can go both ways work generally better when applied to character rather than general strategies

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this, can you explain again? Especially the last part. I don't know anything about character strategies versus general strategies. Sorry if this derails things for a minute.

[PrawnSkunk]

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as for prawn, i'm liking the lynch on him even more and more. his most recent post implies that he's read the whole thread, and yet for some reason is declining to post even any bit of speculation that he has, even though he's been asked to like 10 times by now.

also "my chance of successfully lynching someone" from prawn kinda indicates that he feels alone. In a group where 7/9 people should be on your side, there's something about his mindset that screams "i'm fighting against the majority". This is even further amplified by the fact that wolves haven't had a chance to talk to eachother privately yet

I've never read a page of TWG in its entirety before making my first post here. You can tell I'm still posting as if this is a chit chat thread, so go easy on me - I'm still warming to the customs of responses, and forming of coherent statements. So thank you, your advice definitely makes a difference.

If you didn't understand my past post, I already put forward my speculation, but my post was deleted by someone else in the mess of last night. That's no longer relevant, as Gun is no longer playing.

I've withheld most of my speculations because I think they are stupid. For example: I think ohsosilly is more likely to hold a mafia roll, because of her substitution with Gun. If Gun was a vanilla towny, something tells me he would have just been simply dropped from the game.

[ohsosilly]

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@Yoshl oh wait, I might get it now. You're saying that it was bad for me to say "how do blues behave in general", and that it's more productive to think "how has this specific person played for his/her past 5 games under pressure?" to see patterns?

Or I could be totally crazy, that too!

[T-Force]

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@ Prawn: There's never someone dropped from the game unless they break the farriers of the game, AKA discussing roles outside of the thread, or revealing information during a nightphase for example.
These are all instances during this game that could lead to a mod-kill.
Gun's replacement is like all of the others and isn't too out of the ordinary. Unless you're wanting town to lose a spot if he flipped human, but I will chalk this up to not knowing.

@ Silly: Holy colours, Batman. I like your reads for the most part and you seem to understand a general idea from your limited experience. I'll post my reads later on, but I do agree with a fair few of yours.

[Cavernio]

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There's a super weird yoshl/prawnskunk dynamic going on

[T-Force]

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Alright, here we go. This is only day 1 though so I fully expect these to change in the next day or so.

1) Cavernio - I won't count the interaction with Gun because that's not something I think is game-related. The one thing that strikes me as odd is your desire to end a phase earlier, although I do see the logic behind it and can't really fault you for it; just timing. You're a 2/5 on the scale for me.

2) LeftyRighty - I still don't really like what you've done; specifically, the lack of anything. All we've gotten from you is a "trust me, I'm not a wolf" which is the weakest play. You've done nothing to prove you're a human. You haven't done anything too wolfy either, and I don't know if you know how to be under the radar (UTR), but you still score a 3/5 from me. This can change easily though. Just contribute, dude.

3) idk some loser named Bridget (ohsosilly)* - For someone new to this game (and possibly this thread), you've got a decent grasp on it. I read Gun as fairly human, but I'd like to see more from YOU. I want to see how you play, and your own ideas with your granted role. 2/5 just because I feel like there's not enough from YOU, although I agree with most of your reads.

4) soramimi - I'm quite enjoying your play. You're vocal, not quick to jump into thing and are thinking hard about every action. Like Bridget said, I see that you're digging into people and their actions. Fairly solid 1/5 from you at the current moment.

5) RNGRX - As usual, you're an enigma. Your posts don't contain any substance and it's hard for me to grasp any read on you. 3/5.

6) The cutest one out of all of you (Prawn) - Like R, I don't see a lot of substance from you. As well, I do want to point out that no matter how stupid your thoughts or reads may be, they can still be valuable info for peoples' reads on you now and later. 3/5.

8) Carrotcake - Still not a fan of that vote of yours, even if it was in defense. That was a close call and for all we know, you could be out looking for a kill. Like R, Lefty, and Prawn, I would like to see more from you before I focus more on someone. 3.5/5

9) Yoshl - As a vet leader, I like the direction you've taken with the town, and you've made a ton of good moves. While Bridget thinks your quote is suspicious, I see it as perfectly logical and natural. Nothing about you really strikes me as being too odd, and your pressure is being applied in all the right places (obby). 1.5/5


I know I've got on the case of Prawn and R for not posting a lot, but I would like to hear first and foremost from the person with my vote: Carrotcake.
Where you at?

[T-Force]

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There's a super weird yoshl/prawnskunk dynamic going on

I dunno.. Yosh's pressure is reasonable considering Prawn has posted either cryptic hints, or diddly-squat in his eyes.

[soramimi]

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I'm not sure I follow how your rankings work...

[T-Force]

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1 being town, 5 being wolf. That's why they're coloured.

[soramimi]

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Carrot, Lefty, Prawn and R... new game for you. It's called "who is YOUR top suspicion and why". GO.