In The Groove Vs DDR

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

I don't like ether.

I play SM pad files with my Metal Mat.

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

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So I was typing a response to each example, and simply enough, all it comes down to is that you're bad at the game.

































Oh and also you don't like using your hands because you're fat.

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

lol tera called you fat

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haha ITG has bad songs, but i you hack it and put good songs on its amazing. Hands and also be hit with your feet, if you know when to expect them.

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Oh look, a topic that has been made 53625983265062359234723047 times.

Cool.

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

Time to rant i respond to everything you say in the opposite form

In the Groove
*The life difficulty is no more difficult than DDR is. So that's a misstatement dumb ass. If you were smart you'd know that DDR has a HIGHER life difficulty on the last stage than first AND if you get your bar full and then start missing it takes 6 straight misses on DDR to fail. Its no harder than ITG.

*The songs are A LOT better than that japanese pop sh!t. ITG is a lot more "American" compared to DDR.

*The difficulties.. wow you just suck if you think hard is "like Jesus". There's players that do 15's for fun. While ITG has a 1-12 difficulty scale and 13's as the hardest. Hards are like DDR heavy's as well.

*Watch some videos.. Experts don't use hands, its called bracketing.


3:38 << That's bracketing

DanceDanceRevolution
*You have Heavy songs that are 6's and retarded songs that are stupid 10's and make no sense. DDR just has a lot more songs than ITG so it seems like a better balance in some ways. Also its called difficulty change. ITG does have medium for your easy ass.

*Konami is awesome, there stepfiles for DDR suck. They should stick to Platform games.

*"You can miss a decent amount of notes" Doesn't seem like you play hard songs so not really, its actually harder than ITG's life difficulty on final stage.

*ITG has levels 1-13. Why couldn't you practice?? Because they don't have 600 stupid songs?? or is it because you like saying "i beat this song on the hardest steps it has" and you cant do that with ITG cause expert is too hard for you??

In The Groove is a lot better imo. Yes i play 13's for fun, which DDR doesn't have.

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

In the Groove has a LOT better selection for those who appreciate electronic music. I loved playing the Happy Hardcore songs like Sunshine, and the more Trace/Hardcore songs as well.

DDR is now mainly commercialized music and pop filler.

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

ITG is better.
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Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

Sunshine is in DDR and ITG

Example = Epic Fail

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This whole DDR vs ITG crap is overrated.
In The Groove is SO much better than DDR
for one: ITG stepcharts arnt filled with crossovers at 400BPM
ITG is for hardcore players. (which apperantly your not) and there is novice/easy/medium
The difficultys are DOABLE. they're not impossible.
DDR charts are just filled with complete nonsense (EX: Healing-D-Vision)

Man.. What happened to the good ol' days of DDR when charts didn't suck? D:

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

I read your opening post and just thought this outta summerize:

Hi guys, I really fail at both DDR and ITG.
I like really bad music therefore DDR has the best soundtrack EVER.
Konami doesn't step arrows to music, therefore they are better at making files.
DDR is so much harder to fail because I don't play hard songs so the final stages are still so easy.
I'm too lazy to learn how to play.
I'm a fatass, and using hands is hard guys really!

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

I totally agree with you.

Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

Time to de-rail a thread that has been already quieted down.

Now normally, I wouldn't mind a person that says "I hate ITG because of this...'' but the facts that are being used against ITG are wrong.

SO, let's play, shall we?

ITG

- In DDR, if you hold a full life bar for a while and then suddenly miss, the lifebar eats you alive, it can potentially kill you by missing only 4 notes in a row. ITG on the other hand has a specific metric that tells the game exactly how much life to take away per arrow on each judge. ITG 1, DDR 0.


- Totally opinionated, J-Pop sucks IMO, sorry, you cannot use that. ITG 1, DDR 0.

- Wrong. Hard difficulty in ITG is the equivalent to DDRs Heavy/Expert (wtf is it nowadays? They can't even keep a default heavy difficulty level? ITG 2, DDR 0) difficulties. The only difference is unlike DDR's attempt at being innovative using crappy double-stepping patterns, ITG tries to be different by making you do full-body turns, or spin gallops, etc. ITG 3, DDR 0.

- DDR was the base of things; ITG took DDR's base and made it better. And you can't say that ITG did everything bad since DDR X has "shock arrows" (the equivalent of mines). ITG 4, DDR 1 (gave a point to both).

- Then you don't like playing something that makes step-charts so much more fun, and physically tolling at the same time. Maybe you don't like hands, but the fact that it is available to do (AND take off) makes ITG win automatically. ITG 5, DDR 1.

DDR

- Really? DDR's scale goes from 1 to 10, and ITG's scale goes from 1 to 13.

Potential response: "Just because ITG has a higher difficulty range doesn't make it an even balance."

Oh, but it does--every conventional Novice chart is a 1 on ITG, something that makes some songs not playable to very new players (a.k.a. all boss songs). Not only does ITG have a static novice difficulty, but also has a static minimum for Expert charts, all of which are ranked at LEAST a 9, but no lower. Balance is definitely in ITG, and the song lists between In The Groove 1 and 2 pump out at least 130 songs, which attains a nice balance seeing as how most are stepped fully on singles and doubles. ITG 5, DDR 1.

Completely subjective, opinionated, and holds absolutely no relevance to the point. ITG 5, DDR 1.

Already been disproved in the ITG section of my rebuttal. Score stays the same.

What? What makes you not able to practice on ITG? The home version of ITG has a mode called "Practice Mode" where you can look measure by measure at each part of the song and then review it and master it, just like how DDR has training mode. Failed attempt at an argument.

Since THAT has been completely demolished, let me throw in my OWN mix of elements to refute for ITG.

*Custom Songs

In The Groove supports any custom song granted that you make steps for it, make the music file an .ogg, and in some cases, have your song under 2 minutes, which is the length of most DDR songs anyway. DDR on the other hand, requires you to bring a PS1 memory card to even consider playing edits on them, and that's only on SOME cabinets. ITG 6, DDR 1.

*Hackable

In The Groove hard drives can be manipulated to allow for the addition of stepcharts directly onto the hard drive. DDR? Not even close. You know what's even better? Some people want to get rid of DDR so much that they hack eliminate DDR from their drive and then throw In The Groove on it--they're desperate enough to play on terrible DDR cabinets. And even then, some people upgrade their machines just so they can get the good pads that ITG has. What? Did I just hear a triple whammy? Hacks? Upgrades? Better pads? ITG 9, DDR 1.

*Scriptable Nonstops/Marathons

This beats DDR on so many levels. Courses don't have to be a single mod (group) per song, you can have mods change anytime you want, granted you know how to do it. Take a look at this. Excessive? Sure. But this is made by one of the best course scripters in the world, and he makes courses to provide not only a visual challenge, but a mental challenge as well. ITG 10, DDR 1.

*Modifier selection

ITG beats DDR really badly here too. Other than speed mods (obviously), you can choose more than one mod in each group of mods. Unlike in DDR, you can choose Hidden/Sudden at the same time. You can choose Boost/Brake at the same time. Heck, you can even flip the targets and have two on top and two on bottom. Modifier manipulation in ITG is way more advanced than DDR is. ITG 11, DDR 1.

Well, ITG won the Dancing Game World Series in my eyes, score of 11 to 1 is pretty conclusive.

Let me throw a little bit more out there though, ITG has a very active community, even after the suit that Konami did to them, and that community is always creating stepcharts/courses and other content for the game. ITG modifying has become such a common art, and DDR players cannot experience that because there simply is not enough freedom. I think I posted enough for one day.

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Re: In The Groove Vs DDR

Plus, DDR can't make a hard chart for ****.

Just about every difficult chart there is on DDR is just like LMAO SPEED UP TO 400 BPM.

It just shows that the chart makers don't have any actual talent, and need to resort to speedups to add any kind of difficulty to a chart.