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  • pntballa18
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2005
    • 3357

    #1

    TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

    mvp pntballa18/trav
    lvp cyrenics

    will edit more in later/have flaw give his input
    Last edited by pntballa18; 03-9-2009, 08:25 PM.
  • Spyke_MH
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2005
    • 204

    #2
    Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

    >.> meh

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    • travman301
      #swagdog
      • Mar 2004
      • 2641

      #3
      Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

      **** you pnt. I get that mvp for sure.

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      • Spyke_MH
        FFR Player
        • Jan 2005
        • 204

        #4
        Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

        I call lvp on cy...getting fooled so easily and then wolfing himself even though it wouldn't help at all

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        • Sullyman2007
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 1663

          #5
          Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

          Yeah that was a dick move.

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          • pntballa18
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2005
            • 3357

            #6
            Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

            yeah that was a dumb move and i was just informed you thought trav was wolfsbane so idk who to give lvp to. probably onlinehost

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            • emerald000
              the Mathemagician~
              • Nov 2005
              • 1320

              #7
              Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

              That last hour I lived mostly with trav was probably one of the most intense I have ever lived in my TWG history.

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              • Spyke_MH
                FFR Player
                • Jan 2005
                • 204

                #8
                Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

                the whole wolfsbane deal was cy's fault too >.> he said he found out trav was wolfsbane and got me worried...but I wasn't sure the info was accurate and didn't feel like pushing my luck in that field

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                • pntballa18
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 3357

                  #9
                  Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

                  roles as best i can remember them

                  wolves - cyrenics fic spyke brutal: argo
                  masons - manti gun mak
                  psychic - sully
                  wolfsbane - thunder

                  apparently mak didn't tell gun about thunder's wolfsbane role so mak gets a dishonorable mention
                  sully gets an honorable mention for coming out at just the right time etc
                  also tons of people are saying cyrenics for the lvp for wolfing himself so why not
                  Last edited by pntballa18; 03-9-2009, 08:27 PM.

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                  • DarkManticoreX2
                    TWG Overlord
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 7355

                    #10
                    Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

                    Host sign ups won't go up for 2 or 3 days.

                    We have been skipping out on the postgames recently and just jumping into the next game without giving our thoughts on the game, thanks to the host and comments to other players. Use this time to discuss plans you had that didn't work. Things you were angry about happening (night 1 wolvings etc). Comments to newer players about how to be more decieving.
                    AAA's = 800

                    Originally posted by V
                    Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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                    • thunderstrike687
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 785

                      #11
                      Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

                      masons failed me gg


                      Originally posted by Adamaja456
                      yea, this subscription giveaway is more fun than watching two lesbians engage in foreplay
                      Originally posted by twiggy_2004
                      i love a food

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                      • Spyke_MH
                        FFR Player
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 204

                        #12
                        Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

                        Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
                        Things you were angry about happening (night 1 wolvings etc).
                        *makes room for manti's rant about getting wolfed night 1*

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                        • pntballa18
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 3357

                          #13
                          Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

                          Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
                          night 1 wolvings etc
                          manti rule is always right

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                          • Sullyman2007
                            FFR Player
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1663

                            #14
                            Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

                            Ok.

                            I really wasn't sure when to come out, this was pretty much my first blue role, and not having a guard or psychic, I tried to come up with a new tactic but it didn't really work out. Severe inactivity for most of the game (including myself) didn't make it any easier.

                            I find it hilarious that the wolves (apparently) had all the masons figured out before I did.

                            So yah I kind of blame myself for not talking to enough people especially at first and being inactive was just dumb.
                            Last edited by Sullyman2007; 03-9-2009, 08:39 PM.

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                            • emerald000
                              the Mathemagician~
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 1320

                              #15
                              Re: TWG LXXVI - America's Next Top Model postgame

                              Per request of pnt, here's the log of the convo I had with trav that led to the fact that Spyke was a wolf and that maybe sully was one (no offense).

                              (08:43:03 PM) emerald3x0: hello dear wolf
                              (08:43:19 PM) RBennie362: i give up on you ******s
                              (08:43:35 PM) emerald3x0: sorry?
                              (08:43:43 PM) RBennie362: =/
                              (08:43:54 PM) RBennie362: are you the blue?
                              (08:44:10 PM) emerald3x0: no
                              (08:44:19 PM) RBennie362: then pish posh on you
                              (08:44:23 PM) RBennie362: what have you to say
                              (08:45:02 PM) emerald3x0: I have as many rights as anybody else to say you are a wolf
                              (08:45:19 PM) emerald3x0: and being a mason or any other blue in late game isn't really useful
                              (08:45:48 PM) RBennie362: it would eliminate one person off the list containing a wolf
                              (08:46:49 PM) emerald3x0: saying I am a blue doesn't hold anything now?
                              (08:46:51 PM) emerald3x0: are you one?
                              (08:46:57 PM) RBennie362: no
                              (09:00:32 PM) RBennie362: i want to lynch ruristu
                              (09:00:42 PM) RBennie362: because i have a feeling
                              (09:00:49 PM) RBennie362: its either rurisu
                              (09:00:50 PM) RBennie362: or sully
                              (09:01:07 PM) RBennie362: ruritsu*
                              (09:01:21 PM) emerald3x0: why not spyke, you, or me?
                              (09:01:37 PM) RBennie362: you replaced clari right?
                              (09:01:43 PM) emerald3x0: yeah
                              (09:01:57 PM) RBennie362: well clari gave off no wolfy vibes
                              (09:02:04 PM) RBennie362: and im just going on gut at this point
                              (09:02:17 PM) RBennie362: because theres nothing really else to go on
                              (09:02:30 PM) RBennie362: sully because if hes lying then hes obviously a wolf
                              (09:02:43 PM) RBennie362: but assuming thats not the case that leaves ruritsu and spyke
                              (09:02:57 PM) RBennie362: and it could very well be spyke
                              (09:03:09 PM) RBennie362: however you guys couldnt be bothered to vote
                              (09:03:23 PM) RBennie362: so choosing between the two i would go with ruritsu
                              (09:03:47 PM) emerald3x0: I hate shots in the dark
                              (09:03:56 PM) RBennie362: IT DIDNT HAVE TO BE A SHOT IN THE DARK
                              (09:04:09 PM) RBennie362: >
                              (09:04:15 PM) emerald3x0: I know, but it now is
                              (09:04:27 PM) RBennie362: then again i could be very wrong too
                              (09:04:28 PM) RBennie362: lol
                              (09:04:33 PM) RBennie362: ive only been in this game for like 2 days
                              (09:04:34 PM) RBennie362: but w/e
                              (09:04:52 PM) emerald3x0: well we have a 1/3 chance of getting a wolf
                              (09:05:02 PM) RBennie362: well this time
                              (09:05:10 PM) RBennie362: lets just vote out ruritsu like i wanted initailly
                              (09:06:06 PM) RBennie362: you are just going to have to trust that im not a wolf i suppose
                              (09:06:10 PM) RBennie362: because what else do you have?
                              (09:06:13 PM) RBennie362: besides
                              (09:06:22 PM) RBennie362: you have played enough games with me to read me i suppose
                              (09:06:47 PM) emerald3x0: yes, but I haven't played along with you long enough this game to trust you yet
                              (09:07:14 PM) RBennie362: well what other choice do you have?
                              (09:07:17 PM) RBennie362: try to lynch me?
                              (09:07:25 PM) RBennie362: will that be proactive this late in the game as well
                              (09:08:06 PM) emerald3x0: can't seem to trust you right now
                              (09:08:11 PM) emerald3x0: I still have an hour to make my mind
                              (09:08:26 PM) RBennie362: for all i know
                              (09:08:32 PM) RBennie362: you could be a wolf as well
                              (09:08:42 PM) RBennie362: but looking at strategy
                              (09:09:12 PM) emerald3x0: oh crap
                              (09:09:17 PM) emerald3x0: I trust you now
                              (09:09:18 PM) RBennie362: i dont have the luxury of endulging these thoughts
                              (09:09:21 PM) emerald3x0: stupid me
                              (09:09:30 PM) RBennie362: read the day before you came in
                              (09:09:31 PM) RBennie362: ?
                              (09:09:33 PM) RBennie362: rofl
                              (09:09:43 PM) RBennie362: what happened?
                              (09:10:17 PM) emerald3x0: about twenty minutes ago, I asked pnt for a phantom list
                              (09:10:27 PM) emerald3x0: he replied saying he would make one since he had none yet
                              (09:10:42 PM) emerald3x0: that means the wolf didn't ask for one
                              (09:11:03 PM) emerald3x0: and I know you are good enough to base your wolfings on phantoms in the end-game
                              (09:11:17 PM) RBennie362: interesting
                              (09:11:26 PM) emerald3x0: it just stroke me
                              (09:11:39 PM) RBennie362: hmm
                              (09:11:45 PM) RBennie362: well i think ruritsu would too
                              (09:11:47 PM) RBennie362: i really dont know
                              (09:12:13 PM) emerald3x0: I don't know how good are the other people as I have barely played with them
                              (09:12:21 PM) RBennie362: neither have I
                              (09:12:41 PM) RBennie362: theres one chance really
                              (09:12:45 PM) RBennie362: hopefully
                              (09:12:48 PM) RBennie362: the blue went to sully
                              (09:12:50 PM) RBennie362: and hes not a wolf
                              (09:13:05 PM) RBennie362: and HOPEFULLY the wolfing can shed a little light on things
                              (09:13:12 PM) RBennie362: then we need to vote fast
                              (09:13:23 PM) RBennie362: because the wolf can probably lynch via phantom
                              (09:13:49 PM) emerald3x0: that's why I wanted the phantom list
                              (09:14:03 PM) emerald3x0: the insta is going to be at 3
                              (09:14:04 PM) RBennie362: i started to go through the beginning
                              (09:14:05 PM) emerald3x0: hmmm...
                              (09:14:09 PM) RBennie362: but its just so dense
                              (09:14:16 PM) RBennie362: and inactive
                              (09:14:19 PM) RBennie362: i said **** it
                              (09:14:26 PM) RBennie362: lol thats kind of an oxymoron
                              (09:14:36 PM) RBennie362: wait a second
                              (09:14:41 PM) RBennie362: if theres still a blue left
                              (09:14:47 PM) RBennie362: and it isnt the psychic
                              (09:14:51 PM) RBennie362: what role could it be
                              (09:14:55 PM) emerald3x0: mason
                              (09:15:01 PM) RBennie362: masons are dead
                              (09:15:12 PM) emerald3x0: didn't know that
                              (09:15:18 PM) RBennie362: wait wait wait
                              (09:15:26 PM) RBennie362: so either sully is lying
                              (09:15:30 PM) RBennie362: or its the wolfsbane
                              (09:15:36 PM) RBennie362: why the **** didnt I look at that
                              (09:15:44 PM) emerald3x0: crap
                              (09:15:53 PM) emerald3x0: was there 2 dead people one night?
                              (09:15:55 PM) RBennie362: you arent the wolfsbane are you?
                              (09:15:57 PM) RBennie362: no
                              (09:16:00 PM) RBennie362: i dont think so
                              (09:16:02 PM) emerald3x0: I am not
                              (09:16:11 PM) RBennie362: that means we can prove hes not lying
                              (09:16:12 PM) RBennie362: right?
                              (09:16:22 PM) emerald3x0: yeah
                              (09:16:31 PM) RBennie362: you want to go through the game?
                              (09:16:32 PM) RBennie362: lol
                              (09:16:34 PM) RBennie362: i dont really want to
                              (09:17:09 PM) RBennie362: matter of fact ill get back to you in about 15 mins
                              (09:17:13 PM) RBennie362: im watching the amazing race
                              (09:17:22 PM) RBennie362: you want to see if there have been any double deaths?
                              (09:17:30 PM) emerald3x0: as of pnt: emerald - 1
                              ruritsu - 2
                              sully - 3
                              trav and spyke - 0
                              (09:17:34 PM) emerald3x0: phantoms
                              (09:17:38 PM) emerald3x0: which is bad
                              (09:17:51 PM) RBennie362: why would a wolf be getting phantoms?
                              (09:17:56 PM) emerald3x0: I'll go look for the double death
                              (09:18:14 PM) emerald3x0: hmmm...
                              (09:18:17 PM) RBennie362: insta is 3?
                              (09:18:22 PM) emerald3x0: yes >_<
                              (09:18:26 PM) RBennie362: that isnt good
                              (09:18:29 PM) RBennie362: if sully lives
                              (09:18:34 PM) RBennie362: we need to rush vote
                              (09:18:44 PM) emerald3x0: let's hope the wolf will kill the blue XD
                              (09:18:54 PM) RBennie362: im thinking its spyke
                              (09:19:00 PM) RBennie362: because when i am wolf
                              (09:19:04 PM) RBennie362: i avoid phantoms
                              (09:19:08 PM) RBennie362: like the plauge
                              (09:19:19 PM) RBennie362: ill read through his posts when im done
                              (09:19:29 PM) RBennie362: do you have his aim?
                              (09:19:35 PM) emerald3x0: SpykeSlash
                              (09:19:44 PM) RBennie362: could give him the patented trav grillll
                              (09:19:55 PM) RBennie362: hes a nub right?
                              (09:20:56 PM) emerald3x0: I don't think he has played much games
                              (09:21:06 PM) RBennie362: k working my magic
                              (09:21:10 PM) emerald3x0: good luck :P
                              (09:23:42 PM) RBennie362: wait so one is the wolf
                              (09:23:45 PM) RBennie362: and one is the wolfsbane
                              (09:23:46 PM) RBennie362: huh?
                              (09:24:11 PM) emerald3x0: looks like it
                              (09:29:54 PM) RBennie362: heh yeah its him
                              (09:30:19 PM) emerald3x0: oh yeah?
                              (09:30:24 PM) RBennie362: Spyke Slash (6:29:42 PM): >.> Alright fine...ya got me...happy now?
                              RBennie362 (6:29:50 PM): who are you going to wolf?
                              Spyke Slash (6:29:56 PM): you'll see
                              (09:30:34 PM) emerald3x0: HAHAHAHAHAHA
                              (09:30:35 PM) emerald3x0: HAHAHAHA
                              (09:30:36 PM) emerald3x0: HAHAHA
                              (09:30:39 PM) emerald3x0: HAHA
                              (09:30:40 PM) emerald3x0: HA
                              (09:30:41 PM) emerald3x0:
                              (09:31:12 PM) RBennie362: so can we get 3 votes faster than him?
                              (09:31:29 PM) emerald3x0: I got sully recounting his votes as he thinks he has less than 3 phantoms
                              (09:32:38 PM) RBennie362: what's ruritsu's aim?
                              (09:33:03 PM) emerald3x0: ruritsu
                              (09:33:07 PM) emerald3x0: he's not online
                              (09:34:27 PM) RBennie362: i guess sully could still be faking
                              (09:34:33 PM) RBennie362: if the real psychic is really dead
                              (09:34:40 PM) RBennie362: and the wolfsbane is alive
                              (09:34:48 PM) RBennie362: but then you would need to be psychic
                              (09:34:50 PM) RBennie362: or something
                              (09:34:51 PM) RBennie362: i dunno
                              (09:35:17 PM) emerald3x0: but with what Spyke said...
                              (09:35:22 PM) RBennie362: yeah...
                              (09:35:23 PM) RBennie362: lol
                              (09:35:30 PM) RBennie362: i guess its obvious
                              (09:35:54 PM) emerald3x0: or it is possible to have 2 wolves remaining?
                              (09:36:06 PM) RBennie362: sully would be lying
                              (09:36:07 PM) RBennie362: ohhhh
                              (09:36:09 PM) RBennie362: i see what you did there
                              (09:36:33 PM) RBennie362: RBennie362 (6:31:38 PM): you can bow down to me
                              RBennie362 (6:31:49 PM): Spyke Slash (6:29:42 PM): >.> Alright fine...ya got me...happy now?
                              RBennie362 (6:29:50 PM): who are you going to wolf?
                              Spyke Slash (6:29:56 PM): you'll see
                              RBennie362 (6:30:39 PM): well
                              RBennie362 (6:30:41 PM): good luck
                              sully5313 (6:33:32 PM): ****
                              sully5313 (6:33:34 PM): lol
                              RBennie362 (6:33:42 PM): what?
                              sully5313 (6:33:54 PM): no wait
                              sully5313 (6:33:55 PM): awesome
                              (09:36:49 PM) RBennie362: oh shi-
                              (09:36:58 PM) emerald3x0: oh wow
                              (09:37:02 PM) RBennie362: well
                              (09:37:03 PM) RBennie362: ****
                              (09:37:05 PM) RBennie362: that would be bad
                              (09:37:06 PM) RBennie362: wouldnt it
                              (09:37:19 PM) emerald3x0: yes, it would indeed be
                              (09:38:28 PM) emerald3x0: if we both vote for Spyke and he doesn't, that means he is a wolf
                              (09:38:47 PM) emerald3x0: at least, if he is a wolf, the wolves won't vote for him
                              (09:38:49 PM) emerald3x0: oh wait
                              (09:38:56 PM) emerald3x0: they could vote for ruritsu
                              (09:39:01 PM) emerald3x0: aww.....
                              (09:42:21 PM) emerald3x0: I just realised the wolfsbane could have been lynched
                              (09:43:05 PM) RBennie362: yeah you are right
                              (09:44:08 PM) RBennie362: but if sully is telling the truth
                              (09:44:12 PM) RBennie362: then the wolfsbane is alive
                              (09:44:32 PM) RBennie362: when does day end
                              (09:44:38 PM) emerald3x0: night?
                              (09:44:43 PM) RBennie362: tonight?
                              (09:44:50 PM) emerald3x0: night ends at 10 PM
                              (09:44:58 PM) emerald3x0: (in 20 minutes)
                              (09:45:04 PM) emerald3x0: 15 actually
                              (09:45:08 PM) RBennie362: well
                              (09:45:09 PM) RBennie362: ****
                              (09:49:05 PM) emerald3x0: the more I think about it, the more I think voting off for sully might be the best bet
                              (09:49:17 PM) RBennie362: no thats dumb
                              (09:50:19 PM) RBennie362: wait actually
                              (09:50:30 PM) emerald3x0: if you or I get wolfed, we won't get enough votes to vote out Spyke
                              (09:51:07 PM) RBennie362: 1. Spyke_MH
                              2. travman301
                              3. emerald
                              8. ruritsu

                              (09:51:16 PM) RBennie362: then we have a vote
                              (09:51:19 PM) RBennie362: 3 people
                              (09:51:22 PM) RBennie362: wofing 2 people
                              (09:51:29 PM) RBennie362: as long as they kill me they win
                              (09:51:32 PM) RBennie362: so thats dumb
                              (09:52:24 PM) emerald3x0: don't forget there will be a wolfing too before we lynch someone
                              (09:52:28 PM) RBennie362: he admitted it
                              (09:52:44 PM) emerald3x0: I know, the case is if either sully is a wolf or not
                              (09:53:03 PM) emerald3x0: if he is a wolf, voting for him helps us
                              (09:53:19 PM) RBennie362: how?
                              (09:53:29 PM) emerald3x0: we kill a wolf...
                              (09:53:34 PM) RBennie362: then what
                              (09:53:36 PM) RBennie362: then they kill us
                              (09:53:39 PM) RBennie362: and they win
                              (09:54:45 PM) emerald3x0: we won't have enough firepower to vote out Spyke
                              (09:54:57 PM) RBennie362: if we vote out sully
                              (09:55:05 PM) RBennie362: there will be 3 people in the game left
                              (09:55:32 PM) RBennie362: so long as he kills someone and keeps someone with atleast one phantom
                              (09:55:33 PM) RBennie362: wolves win
                              (09:55:46 PM) emerald3x0: but we cannot kill anybody else if sully is a wolf...
                              (09:56:51 PM) RBennie362: he might not be
                              (09:57:00 PM) RBennie362: so lets take the only chance we have
                              (09:57:08 PM) emerald3x0: yeah fine
                              (09:57:29 PM) emerald3x0: (god once I thought we had won this game... *sigh*)
                              (09:58:09 PM) emerald3x0: trav i h8 u >=(
                              (09:58:16 PM) RBennie362: actually thunder could have been the wolfsbane
                              (09:58:16 PM) emerald3x0: post in the thread by sully
                              (09:58:37 PM) emerald3x0: prepare your vote
                              (09:58:40 PM) RBennie362: so he could be telling the truth
                              (09:59:26 PM) RBennie362: spyke
                              (09:59:30 PM) RBennie362: ctrl c that
                              (09:59:34 PM) emerald3x0: done :P
                              (10:00:24 PM) RBennie362: hes not looking at the thread
                              (10:00:27 PM) RBennie362: so hurray
                              (10:00:38 PM) emerald3x0: everyone is nopw
                              (10:02:10 PM) RBennie362: start f5ing
                              (10:02:22 PM) emerald3x0: go
                              (10:02:22 PM) emerald3x0: go
                              (10:02:23 PM) emerald3x0: go
                              (10:02:23 PM) emerald3x0: go
                              (10:02:23 PM) emerald3x0: go
                              (10:02:26 PM) emerald3x0: I am dead
                              (10:02:27 PM) emerald3x0: >_<
                              (10:03:52 PM) emerald3x0: I was dead anyway
                              (10:04:15 PM) emerald3x0: we had to hope he wolfed ruritsu
                              (10:06:42 PM) RBennie362: im going to pay him 3 dollars on paypal to wolf ruritsu
                              (10:07:07 PM) emerald3x0: ...
                              (10:08:34 PM) RBennie362: read the thread
                              (10:08:35 PM) RBennie362: lol
                              (10:08:38 PM) RBennie362: i didnt even have to offer it
                              (10:08:39 PM) emerald3x0: WTF?
                              (10:08:43 PM) emerald3x0: MAJOR WTF?
                              (10:09:08 PM) emerald3x0: OMG WTF
                              (10:09:30 PM) RBennie362: Spyke Slash (7:08:25 PM): figured I'd give ya a shot since you did figure me out
                              RBennie362 (7:08:31 PM): <3
                              (10:10:05 PM) emerald3x0: oh wow
                              (10:13:59 PM) RBennie362: woooooo
                              (10:14:00 PM) RBennie362: woooooo
                              (10:14:04 PM) RBennie362: human victory
                              (10:14:50 PM) RBennie362: rofl
                              (10:14:58 PM) emerald3x0: hahahaha
                              (10:16:58 PM) RBennie362: he thought i was wolfsbane
                              (10:17:28 PM) emerald3x0: never thought about that possibility
                              (10:17:49 PM) emerald3x0: didn't thunder posted in the thread saying he was the wolfsbane?
                              (10:17:54 PM) RBennie362: yeah
                              (10:17:55 PM) RBennie362: lol
                              (10:17:58 PM) RBennie362: i guess it was too late
                              (10:18:18 PM) emerald3x0: post-game is up
                              (10:24:16 PM) RBennie362: well
                              (10:24:17 PM) emerald3x0: oh wow, that was quite an end-game
                              (10:24:17 PM) RBennie362: gj
                              (10:24:26 PM) emerald3x0: I was exactly going to say the same thing
                              (10:24:28 PM) emerald3x0: hahaha
                              (10:24:35 PM) RBennie362: lol teamwork ftw
                              (10:24:46 PM) emerald3x0: yeah
                              (10:25:35 PM) RBennie362: and to think
                              (10:25:39 PM) RBennie362: if you didnt trust me
                              (10:25:44 PM) RBennie362: i would have voted for ruritsu
                              (10:25:48 PM) RBennie362: and spyke would have too
                              (10:25:51 PM) RBennie362: and we would have lost

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