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  • TheSaxRunner05
    The Doctor
    • Apr 2006
    • 6144
    #1

    Argument for Rates >X1.0

    So, I've been thinking about Rates for a little while now, and I think it's time to revisit the idea of counting scores for Rates >X1.0 for the leaderboards.

    This video is prompting my post specifically -
    https://youtu.be/itDZcCxMaW4


    Especially with over 2,000 songs in this game, I think it would make it more enjoyable for a new player to explore more of the game. While rate leaderboards probably aren't feasible to implement, I think allowing Rates >X1.0 to record scores would be a more enjoyable experience for more players.

    There were previous discussions about whether songs would be easier to get a better score on with the change, like MAYBE skeletor. I don't personnally believe it would make any chart easier in technical ability.

    Anyways, I just wanted to bring the topic back up for discussion.

    TSR / SilverSneakers / Whateveryouwanttocallme


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    • FirstMaple8
      D7 Elite Keymasher
      • Apr 2016
      • 565
      #2
      Re: Argument for Rates >X1.0

      I think the idea you're bringing up is good but i think it would mess with average rank or any other of the sub leaderboards.

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        • devonin
          Very Grave Indeed
          Event Staff
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2004
          • 10120
          #3
          Re: Argument for Rates >X1.0

          Originally posted by FirstMaple8
          I think the idea you're bringing up is good but i think it would mess with average rank or any other of the sub leaderboards.

          Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
          I think the suggestion is to just allow the score to record normally. It wouldn't change things like average rank because a AAA on 1.1 wouldn't get given a higher score than a AAA on 1.0

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            • FirstMaple8
              D7 Elite Keymasher
              • Apr 2016
              • 565
              #4
              Re: Argument for Rates >X1.0

              Originally posted by devonin
              I think the suggestion is to just allow the score to record normally. It wouldn't change things like average rank because a AAA on 1.1 wouldn't get given a higher score than a AAA on 1.0
              But wouldn't that make getting average rank on the easy files way to fast and cheap? Like idk it would be cool to have rate scores submit but i think it would cause too many side effects.

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                • Blackskull305
                  Sippin' tea in yo hood
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 201
                  #5
                  Re: Argument for Rates >X1.0

                  Originally posted by FirstMaple8
                  But wouldn't that make getting average rank on the easy files way to fast and cheap? Like idk it would be cool to have rate scores submit but i think it would cause too many side effects.

                  Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
                  It would just eliminate the drudgery of going back and aaa’ing songs <50 ish difficulty. So, yes, more people would be motivated to climb the avg rank rank leaderboards. However, I think this would be a good thing for the game.

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                    • TheSaxRunner05
                      The Doctor
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 6144
                      #6
                      Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                      Originally posted by FirstMaple8
                      But wouldn't that make getting average rank on the easy files way to fast and cheap? Like idk it would be cool to have rate scores submit but i think it would cause too many side effects.

                      Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
                      If there are other side effects, I really would like to bring them to light.
                      Otherwise, I don't see a downside in making about half the game more enjoyable for other players.

                      We didn't buy the "well we had to AAA legacy files" argument back in the day before those were removed from ranks.


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                        • rushyrulz
                          Digital Dancing!
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 12985
                          #7
                          Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                          If rate leaderboards become a thing, they will be separate from 1x leaderboard.


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                            • gold stinger
                              Signature Extraordinare~~
                              Event Staff
                              Game Manager
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6428
                              #8
                              Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                              I just want >1x rates to be recorded in the same way that 1x rates are recorded.

                              http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...oldstinger1.5/
                              Last edited by gold stinger; 07-4-2019, 01:29 PM.
                              Originally posted by YoshL
                              butts.


                              - Tosh 2014






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                                • gold stinger
                                  Signature Extraordinare~~
                                  Event Staff
                                  Game Manager
                                  FFR Simfile Author
                                  FFR Music Producer
                                  • Jan 2007
                                  • 6428
                                  #9
                                  Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                                  You could probably imagine my sadness when I found out that rates above 1.0 actually don't get recorded as score.
                                  Originally posted by YoshL
                                  butts.


                                  - Tosh 2014






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                                    • rayword45
                                      Local Teenage Wastebasket
                                      FFR Simfile Author
                                      • Feb 2007
                                      • 3212
                                      #10
                                      Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                                      Originally posted by FirstMaple8
                                      But wouldn't that make getting average rank on the easy files way to fast and cheap? Like idk it would be cool to have rate scores submit but i think it would cause too many side effects.

                                      Sent from my LM-X210(G) using Tapatalk
                                      this is exactly why they SHOULD count lmao
                                      The above post has a 50% chance of being useless. Potentially. Maybe.

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                                        • FirstMaple8
                                          D7 Elite Keymasher
                                          • Apr 2016
                                          • 565
                                          #11
                                          Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                                          Originally posted by rayword45
                                          this is exactly why they SHOULD count lmao
                                          Ive always thought it was suppost to be like a patience competition when going for average rank lol

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                                            • rayword45
                                              Local Teenage Wastebasket
                                              FFR Simfile Author
                                              • Feb 2007
                                              • 3212
                                              #12
                                              Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                                              thats lameass game design tbh, like just tediously go through the boring for achievement token nah
                                              The above post has a 50% chance of being useless. Potentially. Maybe.

                                              BEST AAAs: WANDERLUST, Pandora, Necropotence, Mourning The Lost, Eradication, Feldschlacht

                                              Hey, we need some users on this site. Please join.

                                              And if you have not recommended any albums yet, do so. Please. I have a goal to reach. Here.
                                              NO WAIT THAT SHIT'S OLD GO HERE INSTEAD.

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                                                • FirstMaple8
                                                  D7 Elite Keymasher
                                                  • Apr 2016
                                                  • 565
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                                                  Originally posted by rayword45
                                                  thats lameass game design tbh, like just tediously go through the boring for achievement token nah
                                                  Idk i feel like its rewarding

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                                                    • V-Ormix
                                                      Banned
                                                      • Aug 2008
                                                      • 4677
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                                                      it's cool that you can at least save replays on rates

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                                                        • Soundwave-
                                                          Carry your failures proud
                                                          • Sep 2015
                                                          • 644
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Argument for Rates &gt;X1.0

                                                          Part of the challenge of avg rank is to grind through it. It'd be like getting pianocore on 2x. That's just not the point.
                                                          Originally posted by [11:38 PM] Hakulyte
                                                          only person who can legit tilt me is like YoshL
                                                          Originally posted by スンファンさん
                                                          右に3回回らない限り間違います。

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