Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

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  • ShadoWolfe
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2009
    • 150

    #1

    Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

    Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped


    Setup:
    Backup 6
    ^Read the setup.

    Code:
           [B]	      A					B		     C[/B]
    [B]1[/B]	Town Jailkeeper			Vanilla Townie		Mafia Goon
    [B]2[/B]	Mafia Roleblocker		Town Cop		Town Doctor
    [B]3[/B]	Town Universal Backup		Mafia Goon		Town Tracker
    Roles are determined by randomly selecting one row or one column from the above table, then filling in the remaining 6 roles with 5 Vanilla Townies and 1 Mafia Goon to create a 7-town, 2-mafia setup.


    Rules:
    Phase Lengths: 12/12hr days/nights
    No lynch/No kill: ON
    Cardflips: Full
    OOTC: Off (Except for woofchat)
    Nighttalk: Off
    Woofchat is Night Only.
    Phantoms: Off

    1. FreezinIce - Vanilla Town (won at endgame)
    2. the sun fan - Town Jailkeeper (died N2)
    3. Charu - Town Universal Backup (won at endgame)
    4. inDheart - Mafia Goon (lynched D1)
    5. Xelicopter - Vanilla Town (lynched D0)
    6. DaBackpack - Vanilla Town (won at endgame)
    7. blindreper1179 - Mafia Roleblocker (lynched D2)
    8. Hakulyte - Vanilla Town (won at endgame)
    9. Arielbananate7 - Vanilla Town (won at endgame)

    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Town won at D2.

    Analysis:
    This was a game that highlighted the exceptional strength of a Jailkeeper in the right hands.

    D0 very nearly ended with a lynch on Blindreper1179, but last minute indecision/hesitance by town caused a reversal onto Xelicopter, which resulted in a mislynch. During the night, thesunfan expressed a desire to fix his mistakes from D0, which he felt he had performed poorly in. He had correctly understood a softclaim from Charu, realizing that Charu had a good chance of being Backup, and decided to medic-jail Charu. After some contemplation, he reasoned that, if Charu were PR, inDheart was the most likely person to correctly catch the soft, and therefore kill him. This, combined with a belief that wolves normally will choose to send a kill using their deep wolf, caused him to correctly (but at huge risk) jail inDheart. Incidentally, the wolfteam of inDheart/blindreper1179 had also caught Charu softing, and decided to send inDheart for the kill.

    The result was a spectacular roleblock-jailing on inDheart, which confirmed sunfan's suspicions that inDheart had likely sent a kill on Charu and set in motion a series of events that won the game for town. It would be amiss to neglect to mention that inDheart, at the start of the phase (before sunfan claimed), correctly identified the town PRs to be exactly thesunfan/Charu . He had also laid down a brilliant soft on D0, that read "I'm jailor" when revealed. Had he decided to CC, game may have gone very differently. As it was, however, the end of the phase had inDheart mechanically lynched, after a day of posting in a townie manner. This, combined with an earlier callout by thesunfan and Charu, left blindreper1179 looking exceptionally suspicious for his attempt to save his partner. The following day ended the game quickly, with Blind's forfeiture.

    As a result, I think thesunfan has solidly earned MVP for this game.

    Also of note:
    Charu, for believing enough in his trust of sunfan to not doubtcast him through D0 and D1, as well as for nearly singlehandedly pushing through the blindreper lynch on D1 (despite never actually voting him.

    Arielbananate7, for playing exceptionally well and coming to the correct conclusions, despite this being their first TWG game and despite not knowing any of the players or their respective metas.

    inDheart, for correctly reading Charu PR and playing a solidly towny D1, despite mechanically looking suspect AF. He should've CCed, in my opinion, but he made the best of it after failing to do so.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Deadchat: https://discord.gg/fFNk9pR

    Wolfchat: https://discord.gg/wUsNQVP
    Last edited by ShadoWolfe; 10-3-2017, 03:31 PM.





    Originally posted by Hakulyte
    I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
    Originally posted by XelNya
    " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
    Originally posted by YoshL
    "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!
  • the sun fan
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2017
    • 499

    #2
    Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

    very good first game from ariel

    honestly a pretty good game from town as a whole, all things considered
    TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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    • blindreper1179
      Vice President Of TGB
      • Jun 2006
      • 5900

      #3
      Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

      Loved bananas play.
      Originally posted by thesunfan
      absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
      Originally posted by choof
      It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
      Originally posted by choof
      whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
      Originally posted by Celirra
      I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

      Comment

      • Charu
        Snivy! Dohoho!
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2006
        • 6161

        #4
        Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

        I got read PR by not even my super obvious intended soft. But for an earlier post... which I guess was also a soft, but it wasn't suppose to be viewed as one, lol.


        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
        Had a very shiny nose
        And if you ever saw it
        You could even say it glows

        All of the other Snivies
        Used to laugh and call him names
        They never let poor Charu
        Join in any Snivy games

        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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        • Charu
          Snivy! Dohoho!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 6161

          #5
          Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

          But I think thesunfan caught my intended soft, so it ain't all that bad!


          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
          Had a very shiny nose
          And if you ever saw it
          You could even say it glows

          All of the other Snivies
          Used to laugh and call him names
          They never let poor Charu
          Join in any Snivy games

          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

          Comment

          • blindreper1179
            Vice President Of TGB
            • Jun 2006
            • 5900

            #6
            Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

            Tbf if no one read wolf chat, inD caught the softs. I can't read for shit. Lol
            Originally posted by thesunfan
            absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
            Originally posted by choof
            It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
            Originally posted by choof
            whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
            Originally posted by Celirra
            I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

            Comment

            • T-Force
              Your world ends with you
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2007
              • 4753

              #7
              Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

              Who knew that ToS could actually build some decent players.

              All kidding aside, it was great seeing Ariel's play from the sidelines. Really hopeful that they play again, but based off of timezones (I'm guessing they're based in Europe) that may be trickier than expected.

              I also laughed at inD's bait for the same reason DBP flipped shit. Good ol' Flame Wars.
              Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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              • FreezinIce
                FFR Player
                • May 2005
                • 193

                #8
                Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

                Good game for town and quick.

                Guilt for killing xel is real though
                ========

                To let the world be.

                ========

                Originally posted by Charu
                Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                Originally posted by roundbox
                AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                Originally posted by Afrobean
                Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                Originally posted by Red
                My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                Originally posted by TWG Ike
                SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                • FreezinIce
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2005
                  • 193

                  #9
                  Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

                  Sunfan deserves mad props for that jailkeeper play, and it's a lesson to me in the dangers of letting tone dictate my reads over mechanics

                  I would have felt like garbage if I had wasted sunfans play by killing dbp that day.
                  ========

                  To let the world be.

                  ========

                  Originally posted by Charu
                  Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                  Originally posted by mellon_collie
                  AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                  Originally posted by roundbox
                  AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                  Originally posted by Afrobean
                  Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                  Originally posted by Red
                  My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                  Originally posted by TWG Ike
                  SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

                  Comment

                  • FreezinIce
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2005
                    • 193

                    #10
                    Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

                    And I even started to briefly suspect charu the day before for trying to correct me.

                    Sorry charuuuuuu
                    ========

                    To let the world be.

                    ========

                    Originally posted by Charu
                    Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                    Originally posted by mellon_collie
                    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                    Originally posted by roundbox
                    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                    Originally posted by Afrobean
                    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                    Originally posted by Red
                    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                    Originally posted by TWG Ike
                    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

                    Comment

                    • the sun fan
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 499

                      #11
                      Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

                      just a small thing

                      in this setup, you're notified if you're roleblocked if you attempt an action, not just an investigative action

                      so wolves got hurt just a little bit by that
                      TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                      FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

                      Comment

                      • inDheart
                        Picker @ JAX2
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 505

                        #12
                        Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

                        Originally posted by the sun fan
                        just a small thing

                        in this setup, you're notified if you're roleblocked if you attempt an action, not just an investigative action

                        so wolves got hurt just a little bit by that
                        yeah, it came up that if i was supposed to be notified, then i should have the setup locked and that's how i know what role to counterclaim

                        the play i did was probably worse off for blind, because if i counterclaimed then he could just bus me mercilessly but i had to go and make it weird

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                        • DaBackpack
                          ~ お ま ん こ ~
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 918

                          #13
                          Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

                          wait this game is over? sorry for hardly being here

                          great job to sunfan for his godly jailing


                          Originally posted by Moogy
                          no one cares
                          Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                          there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                          that's kind of a sad statistic

                          Comment

                          • the sun fan
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 499

                            #14
                            Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

                            Originally posted by DaBackpack
                            wait this game is over? sorry for hardly being here

                            great job to sunfan for his godly jailing
                            rate cuphead outta 10
                            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

                            Comment

                            • DaBackpack
                              ~ お ま ん こ ~
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 918

                              #15
                              Re: Turbo XIX: When Xiz Gets Flipped - Postgame

                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              rate cuphead outta 10
                              8.5-9/10

                              reminds me a lot of Rabi ribi in a good way


                              Originally posted by Moogy
                              no one cares
                              Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                              there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                              that's kind of a sad statistic

                              Comment

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