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  • Arch0wl
    Banned
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2002
    • 6344
    #1

    Averages = Lifebar penalty

    Keep averages the same scorewise, but give them a lifebar penalty similar to boos or misses.

    Reason: FFR is way too easy to mash.

    This would keep scores the way they are, but would at the very least make passes mean something.
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    • Sorie
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2014
      • 142
      #2
      Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

      The idea is interesting, but since the game now works with raw scoring, I think the goal is already met in a way? I mean this as "discouraging players to mash".

      The other problem is that some tokens would become impossible to unlock doing so e.g: OMGWTFT0k3n.

      I would be more tempted to not change averages, but to give a higher penalty to boos. That's not possible either because of the above.

      That leaves one thing to think about, is there another way to create a penalty?
      Last edited by Sorie; 05-13-2015, 02:07 PM.

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        • Arch0wl
          Banned
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2002
          • 6344
          #3
          Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

          which matters more: OMGWTFT0k3n, or a sensible passing system?

          I'd say the latter.

          if this absolutely must be retained, add in a Pro Pass mode which penalizes averages and penalizes boos harder and have Pro Pass as a distinction we can get along with "FC", "AAA" and so on

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            • AragakiAyase
              Waifus
              • Apr 2015
              • 961
              #4
              Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

              Originally posted by Arch0wl
              if this absolutely must be retained, add in a Pro Pass mode which penalizes averages and penalizes boos harder and have Pro Pass as a distinction we can get along with "FC", "AAA" and so on
              So basically... Hard Rock from Osu?

              pikakirby123 reincarnated





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                • Sorie
                  FFR Player
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 142
                  #5
                  Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                  That's an excellent idea worth experimenting. It would finally give back some value to the lifebar which become obsolete on harder songs as you can just mash through everything. The new problem with this is that mashers will just not use the "Pro Pass mode" and play normally? Why would someone want to use the "Pro Pass mode" ? What's the insensitive?

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                    • Arch0wl
                      Banned
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 6344
                      #6
                      Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                      Originally posted by Sorie
                      The new problem with this is that mashers will just not use the "Pro Pass mode" and play normally? Why would someone want to use the "Pro Pass mode" ? What's the insensitive?
                      I feel like this would become a thing among experienced players -- newbies would not use pro pass, while experienced players would, since this would show you've passed the song in a meaningful way and not just bullshitted your way through it

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                        • Arch0wl
                          Banned
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 6344
                          #7
                          Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                          Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                          So basically... Hard Rock from Osu?
                          if you want to go there, hard clear from IIDX.

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                            • andy-o24
                              Married Man
                              • May 2006
                              • 1525
                              #8
                              Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                              Unless there was something you got from pro pass mode, a AAA means the same thing. It would maybe add a new dimension to anti-skill competition, but isn't the goal usually to get all perfects and no averages anyway? Low tier players could use this as bragging rights but it has no real effect for higher tier players.

                              -o24
                              Originally posted by hi19hi19
                              Best strat: enjoy the game, play what you feel like when you feel like it. Don't think about what you are doing or why, enjoy the gameplay, the artistry behind the stepfile, and enjoy the music.

                              When the game isn't fun for you anymore, take a break. It's not a job, nobody here is professional and getting paid to play and force themselves to constantly improve... it's a game.

                              Originally posted by Shashakiro
                              Yeah, FFR is addicting...I don't think I'll get bored with this game unless I somehow become the best at it, which won't happen.

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                                • Arch0wl
                                  Banned
                                  FFR Simfile Author
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 6344
                                  #9
                                  Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                                  Originally posted by andy-o24
                                  Low tier players could use this as bragging rights but it has no real effect for higher tier players
                                  yes, that is who it is for. low- and mid-tier players for the most part, and high-tier players on songs rated 90+.

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                                    • emulord
                                      FFR Veteran
                                      • Sep 2006
                                      • 778
                                      #10
                                      Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                                      I like it. I feel like FCs lost some meaning from Raw scoring, so having more intermediate goals for songs is a good thing.

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                                        • Rapta
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                                          • Dec 2010
                                          • 1948
                                          #11
                                          Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                                          I like the way averages are at the moment.
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                                            • PhantomPuppy
                                              Washed and Irrelevant D7
                                              • May 2012
                                              • 1808
                                              #12
                                              Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                                              yea now that i think about it, there really isn't much in the game that destroys lifebars. a D2 player can pass death piano if they really felt like it. i like the idea that it maintains the same score given, since that would mess up a lot of things if it didnt give the same score, but at the same time it would make the game more challenging and interesting for casuals and competitive players alike if it gave a lifebar penalty.
                                              Last edited by PhantomPuppy; 05-13-2015, 04:05 PM.

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                                              Originally posted by Funnygurl555
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                                                • SKG_Scintill
                                                  Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                                                  FFR Simfile Author
                                                  • Feb 2009
                                                  • 3876
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                                                  Get 200+ averages on "Zodiac" to unlock Exotica.





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                                                    • PhantomPuppy
                                                      Washed and Irrelevant D7
                                                      • May 2012
                                                      • 1808
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                                                      @everyone that's talking about unlocking tokens being a problem... just have different requirements? and people that already have the token unlocked don't have to do it again?

                                                      edit: not trying to sound like an ass, just a solution to the problems you're stating.
                                                      Last edited by PhantomPuppy; 05-13-2015, 04:35 PM.

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                                                      12th OT (D6): 6th
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                                                      15th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL
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                                                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                                                      you know what they say

                                                      under all the rust is really shiny...……… metal

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                                                        • _Zenith_
                                                          Accuracy Player
                                                          • Mar 2011
                                                          • 4629
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Averages = Lifebar penalty

                                                          Originally posted by Arch0wl
                                                          I feel like this would become a thing among experienced players -- newbies would not use pro pass, while experienced players would, since this would show you've passed the song in a meaningful way and not just bullshitted your way through it
                                                          While having a Pro Pass system would get older more experienced Vets back into playing FFR with a purpose, when you reach that high of skill, you tend to bullshit your way through patterns regardless.





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