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  • Zapmeister
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2012
    • 466

    #1

    PWND! [1 or 2]

    so i get the feeling that, MAYBE, TENTATIVELY, this song's difficulty could POSSIBLY get bumped up a little bit? i mean it has a few more notes than other difficulty 1 songs, and number of arrows is grounds for difficulty increase, right?

    let's look at some statistics.

    so PWND! has been around for 1 day, and it has 1 aaa and 6 fc's. so that's 1 aaa and 6 fc's per day. let's compare it to other songs in the 1-2 region

    Power is a 1, it has 10046 aaa's, 65995 fc's, and has been around for 2512 days. so that's 4.00 aaa's and 26.27 fc's per day.

    Free Space is a 1, and it has 14038 aaa's and 91876 fc's and has been around for 2842 days. so that's 4.94 aaa's and 32.33 fc's per day.

    these numbers are way bigger than 1 and 6.

    compare it to some 2's:

    Activity Unbroken is a 2, and it has 3433 aaa's and 24513 fc's, and has been around for 4003 days. so that's 0.86 aaa's and 6.12 fc's per day.

    Town Theme 1 (WIP Edition) is a 2, and it has 1217 aaa's and 4250 fc's, and has been around for 1280 days. that's 0.95 aaa's and 3.32 fc's per day.

    so judging from these numbers alone, PWND! would fit better as a 2 than a 1.

    on patterns, PWND! has a lot of places where you have to press 2 arrows on the keyboard at the same time, which is a feature much more commonly found in 2's like Prelude No. 7 than it is in most 1's (a few, and only a few, are found in Free Space or that super mario thingy).

    the only reason i can see for it staying a 1 is that it only has one colour of arrows, like Trip to the Moon (Club Remix), and Power (except one arrow), whereas many 2's have 2 or 3 different colours of arrows, which means that they are liable to confuse the player, like Excite Bike. however Counting Snow is a 2, and only has one colour of arrows; so there isn't much of an argument left for this staying a 1.

    thoughts?

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  • One Winged Angel
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    • Mar 2007
    • 10837

    #2
    Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

    this is very important and needs to be discussed


    Originally posted by ilikexd
    i want to be cucked by cirno

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    • _Zenith_
      Accuracy Player
      • Mar 2011
      • 4629

      #3
      Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

      How did this get accepted for discussion?





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      • Riotpolice
        "Reach For The Stars"
        • Nov 2010
        • 1921

        #4
        Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

        Legendary thread status.
        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        Also why is "summon" in quotation marks as usually that signifies an alternate meaning like for example last night I "visited" your mother but it really means last night I "fucked her in the ass" so exactly what is the subtext of "summon" because I am not sure I am comfortable with the implications

        Originally posted by m0de
        im usually the "nice guy" around these parts.. but this is bad, and you should feel bad. i would rather dip my balls in honey and hover them over a red ant hill than to ever hear such butchered crap.

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        • gold stinger
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          • Jan 2007
          • 6428

          #5
          Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

          There has only been 1 AAA on it where other 1-difficulty songs have 1000's of AAA's. I think it should appropriately be bumped to difficulty 2, just for the spike at the end. They give you the impression the song is over at the very end, and then they throw a ton of notes at you.
          Originally posted by YoshL
          butts.


          - Tosh 2014






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          • ItsOnlyDanO
            Stuck in the past
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Oct 2013
            • 1168

            #6
            Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

            I think both 1 & 2 are too high, any chance we could give it a 0 rating?
            Ghosts appear and fade away.......

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            • dell2150
              FFR Veteran
              • Sep 2008
              • 397

              #7
              Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

              This thread is legen....

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              • gold stinger
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                • Jan 2007
                • 6428

                #8
                Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

                Is there any chance that we could give the song a "legen" difficulty rating? dell has a valid point.
                Originally posted by YoshL
                butts.


                - Tosh 2014






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                • SK8R43
                  D7 Elite Keymasher
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4683

                  #9
                  Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

                  2 seems fine to me. I think 1 is a bit underrates, although 3 would be way too high because its definitely not THAT hard.
                  Thee Burstinator
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                  • Riotpolice
                    "Reach For The Stars"
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1921

                    #10
                    Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

                    Originally posted by SK8R43
                    2 seems fine to me. I think 1 is a bit underrates, although 3 would be way too high because its definitely not THAT hard.
                    too srs, step down a bit.
                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
                    Also why is "summon" in quotation marks as usually that signifies an alternate meaning like for example last night I "visited" your mother but it really means last night I "fucked her in the ass" so exactly what is the subtext of "summon" because I am not sure I am comfortable with the implications

                    Originally posted by m0de
                    im usually the "nice guy" around these parts.. but this is bad, and you should feel bad. i would rather dip my balls in honey and hover them over a red ant hill than to ever hear such butchered crap.

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                    • SK8R43
                      D7 Elite Keymasher
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 4683

                      #11
                      Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

                      Riot, its oh so slightly harder than Power. but definitely not as hard as falling into you
                      Thee Burstinator
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                      • Riotpolice
                        "Reach For The Stars"
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1921

                        #12
                        Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

                        Originally posted by SK8R43
                        Riot, its oh so slightly harder than Power. but definitely not as hard as falling into you
                        still too srs, step down a few more feet.
                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        Also why is "summon" in quotation marks as usually that signifies an alternate meaning like for example last night I "visited" your mother but it really means last night I "fucked her in the ass" so exactly what is the subtext of "summon" because I am not sure I am comfortable with the implications

                        Originally posted by m0de
                        im usually the "nice guy" around these parts.. but this is bad, and you should feel bad. i would rather dip my balls in honey and hover them over a red ant hill than to ever hear such butchered crap.

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                        • Riotpolice
                          "Reach For The Stars"
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1921

                          #13
                          Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

                          Also, Gold Charu is here.
                          Originally posted by hi19hi19
                          Also why is "summon" in quotation marks as usually that signifies an alternate meaning like for example last night I "visited" your mother but it really means last night I "fucked her in the ass" so exactly what is the subtext of "summon" because I am not sure I am comfortable with the implications

                          Originally posted by m0de
                          im usually the "nice guy" around these parts.. but this is bad, and you should feel bad. i would rather dip my balls in honey and hover them over a red ant hill than to ever hear such butchered crap.

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                          • HeZe
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 556

                            #14
                            Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

                            I agree, it's definitely too hard to be 1... but not hard enough to be 3, so 2 it is.

                            I expect moderators to react as people are getting upset in here! ;D

                            Originally posted by ilikexd
                            Your strengths and weaknesses may never change, but they will still get better as you do, albeit disproportionately of course. You're bad at jumpstream, so just play jumpstream files. Play them for hours. Play ones you have to struggle to SDG, and play ones hard enough to make your hands and arms burn. Then play them some more. Then, the day after the next, play them again. If you aren't already doing this, you can't say you're stuck. Plateauing doesn't really exist, if you aren't improving it means you haven't put in the effort needed to improve, or your effort has been misapplied. It's more of a problem at really high levels, but never totally concrete.

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                            • One Winged Angel
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                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 10837

                              #15
                              Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

                              On a completely serious note, PWND! is actually staying in game after april fools (let the rage ensue)

                              We put 1 temporarily because I didn't want any AAAs on this unlocking scarhand or derby, given that a quick setup change makes the ending significantly more manageable than playing pure spread (which makes the file arguably more difficult to AAA than some 89+s). But with some setup manipulation for the ending, it's considerably easier.

                              I'm going to see if PWND! can be exempt from awarding any skill tokens related to AAA'ing files, given that I think some D4/D5 players could AAA this with some effort and knowing how to manipulate the ending, but it's certainly not a file that should be rated under FGO.

                              So yeah, since this is staying, what do we rate this?
                              Last edited by One Winged Angel; 04-1-2015, 01:55 PM.


                              Originally posted by ilikexd
                              i want to be cucked by cirno

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