PWND! [1 or 2]

[gold stinger]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

If you can't get the comparison with it to runny, then how about the comparison to AIM anthem or Club? Those are extremely long & rigorous jack pattern files, both labeled as a 70. Club & anthem both have the same jack patterns that are present in PWND, but are slower and over a longer period of time (aka nearly the entire file).

[_Zenith_]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

In my honest opinion, PWND should be 86-88.

That's just me though.

[One Winged Angel]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

If you can't get the comparison with it to runny, then how about the comparison to AIM anthem or Club? Those are extremely long & rigorous jack pattern files, both labeled as a 70. Club & anthem both have the same jack patterns that are present in PWND, but are slower and over a longer period of time (aka nearly the entire file).

Just because 560 notes of low VC material precedes a 30 note extremely difficult ending, doesn't mean the rating should be diluted to a low FMO. There is nothing in either of those files that's anywhere near as difficult to PA as the ending of PWND!

Isolate the ending of PWND! and see if you can AAA it in under 20 tries playing spread. I couldn't, and I'd be willing to bet many other D7 players couldn't as well.

[gold stinger]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

I'm still riding on the bout that you shouldn't be able to unlock scarhand or even oni with this song. It should slide right in shy under the requirement for oni, simply based on dumb luck, manipulated setups, and that this isn't the first jack file that'd piss someone off.

[Charu]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

lol okay guys

[Gradiant]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

It seemed pretty similar to revo etude, just shorter section rather than the entire last half of a file. Think the bpms are close too? The difference in length makes me think it could be several points lower, 88-schmolbluk range

[SK8R43]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

So i'm not crazy for saying its in the 80's, good to know. The ending is extremely brutal, to PA and FC cleanly

[Gradiant]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

If a file is rated in whatever range though, it should unlock the token that corresponds to that difficulty range

[_Zenith_]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

Okay I retract my statement about being put at 86-88 because loleventhat'stoolow

How about 89-92 kthanks

[hi19hi19]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

My guess is mid/high 80s, maybe like 87? Strictly for AAA difficulty. If anything that's undershooting, wouldn't be surprised to see people suggesting up into the mid 90s, it's just really dumb.

Feels on par with the ending of Music for Bmah, but it's a one-handed anchor so it's way harder for spread, but in turn there's literally nothing else in the file and you can make it into a 2-handed anchor with a key setup switch. Basically the rating on this boils down to "are people actually going to bother to remap keys to make it a 2-handed anchor" in which case it drops down into Runnymorning territory.


Kind of stupid this is staying in the game but oh well. If anything, this file should be the one to motivate the (much needed) change where legacy files don't count for anything: leaderboards, skill token unlocks, etc.

[rayword45]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

I don't see why legacy files shouldn't count for st unlocks lol if someone decides to unlock Oni on Caprice that's their own stupid ass

[SK8R43]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

Legacy files should definitely count. Also they should definitely stay in game.

[rayword45]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

They shouldn't count for AvRank because having to play through frothing ass to get 100% is awful game design... this is meant for another thread.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

For reference PWND! itself is 180 BPM as a song, but nestlekwik's steps do not fit 180. They resemble more of 170 bpm intervals, so it's slightly slower -- meaning the file is also horribly offsync. If the steps were 180 BPM there would be more 2-framers in the ending anchor jack.

Edit: Ok so it turns out the 170 BPM estimate was close but overshot. The 16th jacks are 165 BPM, courtesy of noname219 for finding this post.

[PhantomPuppy]

Re: PWND! [1 or 2]

ok, so ive only played the songs once so far. score was a 6-0-4-1. honestly not saying much ofc since its all super easy up until the very end. mmm i wouldnt personally say it belongs in the high 80's range, but i can see low 80's definitely just off that last part.

edit: played it a few more times and tried it on slower rates as well. i take back what i said about low 80s. high 80's at more reasonable.