TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

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  • MixMasterLar
    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2006
    • 5401

    #661
    Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by the sun fan
    lar, a list of Arp games

    turbo 36, died n1 (universal townread)

    TWG 207, rolled a weird 3p role that won with the wolves at the endgame (I do not remember Arp ever rolling something other than town, but clearly I was wrong about that
    I designed this game with sven but I do not recall this role's specificities, unfortunately)

    TWG 206, survived to end of game as town

    jTWG 85, Lost at endgame as a villager

    I believe this is all of their games

    you care incorrect that you have, or that anyone has, ever gotten them lynched
    sigh

    I will admit I am incorrect in my assertion that Arp was lynched for being this way

    I really feel like it's happened though. Arp, don't you remember it happening before?

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    • the sun fan
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 656

      #662
      Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

      Originally posted by leetic
      Does every read I throw around, especially at a time when so little was happening, need to be the work of PhD level research into various metas and so forth? No? Then get yourself unstuck and actually start working on stuff, I know you're capable of it
      leetic, I am trying to be reasonable

      I have plainly said that I don't expect it to be a long, multi-paragraph answer

      I don't like your read on Nakah there, not one bit

      I focused elsewhere because I credited you with helping getting the game going, and nothing stood out to me

      in hindsight, this read of Nakah stands out to me as smelly

      it runs counter to what I have known about Nakah since basically the day I met him, just about

      I can't believe we could be so far apart on it

      your reluctance to engage with me on this, coupled with the fact that you seemed to ignore me, makes me want to vote you, and I don't really want to do that, but I will

      this *should not* be a hard question

      "Why did Nakah role-playing as a barber make you feel like he was more likely aligned with his town game, or some such?"

      Like... the fact that you've not answered this simple, square question brings many, many more questions to my mind. Nakah is like... one of the more unique people I have ever met playing werewolf, I think a lot of people would agree with that who know him. I fucking live with someone nowadays who happens to know him and would agree. The fact that you were doing more than just blue-reading him for that post is

      BAFFLING to me, truly

      and I want to know whether or not it makes you a wolf, and you not answering me frankly and giving me the run-around isn't helping me focus on other work, it is pissing me off and making me think that you're an obtuse villager, or a wolf who isn't afraid to come at me, neither of which I particularly mind voting right now

      so, please

      tell me, WITH NOT EVEN THAT MUCH MORE DETAIL

      how his role-playing, seemingly NAI, entrance made you think he was more likely to be town than not

      you don't even have to mention the blue stuff
      TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

      FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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      • the sun fan
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2017
        • 656

        #663
        Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

        "it reminded me of his recent town game on NSM" is not satisfying me

        what ABOUT it
        why have you not come to the conclusion, that I think almost everyone else that knows Nakah even a little bit would have, that his role-playing there was just Nakah being Nakah

        I NEED TO KNOW THIS IT IS BOTHERING ME IMMENSELY
        you should answer this question as if you have a (metaphorical) gun to your head
        TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

        FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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        • leetic
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2020
          • 7

          #664
          Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by the sun fan
          leetic, I am trying to be reasonable

          I have plainly said that I don't expect it to be a long, multi-paragraph answer

          I don't like your read on Nakah there, not one bit

          I focused elsewhere because I credited you with helping getting the game going, and nothing stood out to me

          in hindsight, this read of Nakah stands out to me as smelly

          it runs counter to what I have known about Nakah since basically the day I met him, just about

          I can't believe we could be so far apart on it

          your reluctance to engage with me on this, coupled with the fact that you seemed to ignore me, makes me want to vote you, and I don't really want to do that, but I will

          this *should not* be a hard question

          "Why did Nakah role-playing as a barber make you feel like he was more likely aligned with his town game, or some such?"

          Like... the fact that you've not answered this simple, square question brings many, many more questions to my mind. Nakah is like... one of the more unique people I have ever met playing werewolf, I think a lot of people would agree with that who know him. I fucking live with someone nowadays who happens to know him and would agree. The fact that you were doing more than just blue-reading him for that post is

          BAFFLING to me, truly

          and I want to know whether or not it makes you a wolf, and you not answering me frankly and giving me the run-around isn't helping me focus on other work, it is pissing me off and making me think that you're an obtuse villager, or a wolf who isn't afraid to come at me, neither of which I particularly mind voting right now

          so, please

          tell me, WITH NOT EVEN THAT MUCH MORE DETAIL

          how his role-playing, seemingly NAI, entrance made you think he was more likely to be town than not

          you don't even have to mention the blue stuff
          Look, not only is this a waste of time, but town's win% gets lower the longer this conversation goes on (no, I will not elaborate). Look at the other 95% of my ISO.

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          • the sun fan
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2017
            • 656

            #665
            Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

            leetic
            I think you're more likely to be a villager doing this, but you've genuinely pissed me the fuck off and I'm not letting a wolf get away with doing this
            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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            • leetic
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2020
              • 7

              #666
              Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

              Originally posted by the sun fan
              leetic
              I think you're more likely to be a villager doing this, but you've genuinely pissed me the fuck off and I'm not letting a wolf get away with doing this
              You are a better player than this, and I shouldn't have to spell it out for you

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              • MixMasterLar
                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 5401

                #667
                Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by leetic
                Look, not only is this a waste of time, but town's win% gets lower the longer this conversation goes on (no, I will not elaborate). Look at the other 95% of my ISO.
                Leetic link that NSM please

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                • mellon_collie
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2017
                  • 156

                  #668
                  Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by leetic
                  Look, not only is this a waste of time, but town's win% gets lower the longer this conversation goes on (no, I will not elaborate). Look at the other 95% of my ISO.
                  I get that the nakah talk seemed like a waste of time, and for 90% of the game I would say that it was because we were talking about Ghost Nakah, but now we are talking about you. Forming a town circle is almost as important as finding wolves in this game, and the fact that you're not willing to just give sunfan anything to attempt to do that really does not make me feel great about you

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                  • the sun fan
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 656

                    #669
                    Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                    do you genuinely think this is a good way to play werewolf?

                    my vote is unmoving and if I am the vigi who gets another shot, I am shooting you.

                    like this is unacceptable play and as much as you tell me you know I'm capable of focusing on other things, I know that you are capable of providing an answer that you could even bullshit so like

                    you're just doing this to piss me off or some shit

                    I don't know what else to say

                    I've even gone and fucking done other shit while interacting with you; I proved an assumption lar made about Arp wrong (or at least done so to the best of my abilities, it is possible I missed something)

                    if anyone else wants to play the game of werewolf with me, like we signed up to do, I'd love to do that with them
                    TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                    FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                    • Arp!
                      The Toaster Poster
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2022
                      • 264

                      #670
                      Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                      finally finished the assignment i was working on but this is all taking much longer than expected and i'm starting to panic a bit. just now caught up with the thread

                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      sigh

                      I will admit I am incorrect in my assertion that Arp was lynched for being this way

                      I really feel like it's happened though. Arp, don't you remember it happening before?
                      it's been quite a while but i can't recall ever being lynched, only killed through other means. i wouldn't be surprised if i've gotten close, though

                      it/its

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                      • MixMasterLar
                        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 5401

                        #671
                        Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                        I would be pretty upset at SunFan for voting for someone he still in his heart thinks is a villager more then a wolf just for some really shitty, low tier argument over a really bad read on D0 but like, I kind of think Leetic is a good vote for several reasons and I don't wanna lose the support

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                        • the sun fan
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 656

                          #672
                          Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                          I would be pretty upset at SunFan for voting for someone he still in his heart thinks is a villager more then a wolf just for some really shitty, low tier argument over a really bad read on D0 but like, I kind of think Leetic is a good vote for several reasons and I don't wanna lose the support
                          leetic probably never does this as a wolf (but I think his cajones are larger than average, so maybe), but if someone isn't going to answer a question as simple as this one, they're telling me they're not going to work with me in such a manner

                          why should I try to win the game while working against them?

                          I don't like his read on Nakah, I've never liked his read on Nakah (aside from the short window of time when I thought he might be blue-reading him), he refuses to elaborate in the slightest beyond "it reminded me of my game with him on NSM" and it would be COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY different if there were masons or if there were n0 green checks, but there aren't, and I don't know what the fuck he's talking about him not needing to spell it out for me

                          there's not even a role-related answer I can think of, as shitty as that is for me to say

                          I'm gonna read an ISO of Arp from their first or second game and compare arp's lack of joy and hope to this one and maybe feel good about directing other people to vote there or so
                          TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                          FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                          • the sun fan
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 656

                            #673
                            Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                            leetic, I need you to claim if this is role-related for this to ever be repaired, I think

                            frankly, I think there's a chance you're likely to die as is anyways

                            a problem for later, but that's where it stands

                            Arp is literally two different people between this previous game and now
                            idk that Lu Meng would even disagree with me that it just feels like Arp is a deflated wolf (sorry Arp)
                            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                            • the sun fan
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 656

                              #674
                              Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                              genuinely if this is role-related, it is on you for not attempting to bullshit an answer and for setting up something that you would struggle to provide cover for at the SLIGHTEST BREEZE later

                              that's the last of it, I promise
                              TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                              FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                              • Arp!
                                The Toaster Poster
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Mar 2022
                                • 264

                                #675
                                Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                                Fatigue is a super common feeling felt by players both alignments so it's an easy/convenient cop out to use. I got similar vibes when reading Arp's posts and was hopeful they would come back and help me clarify if it was town fatigue or not... hoping they still do
                                i'm not sure how to help clarify this without bringing up stuff about mental health, which (among other reasons) i feel just wouldn't be in the spirit of the game
                                as much as really want to just get my crap together and put my mind to this, i'm kind of struggling right now, and i've reached the point where i think i just need to admit that this wasn't the best time for me to join a werewolf game and i should've thought a bit more carefully about it
                                kinda sucks cuz next week is my spring break and that would've been significantly better

                                anyway, brief thoughts while i'm here (i still have stuff to do unfortunately):
                                -> cold take at this point but leetic is suspicious as hell. besides the refusal to answer sunfan's questions i feel like the random jabs at other players are only making meaningful discussion more difficult. could be a wolf tactic but it's uncool even as a townie
                                -> nothing concerning sticks out to me about botchi's read list but i'm curious what they think of leetic now
                                -> hecking,,, still need to ISO roundbox and maybe raeko, but i noticed some comments from other players that are making me question how i feel about them. not wolfreads by any means but i am definitively More Unsure

                                it/its

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