TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

Speaking of which, in post #402, Ara posted an updated reads list. I think it pretty much reflects the current state of the game, but somehow put raeko with me in the bottom. I don't think they were particularly suspicious of her prior, just putting her in the middle, which echoes my feelings, mostly because she's just a very difficult player to read. I'm going to refrain from judging this directly because I was critical of bugkid from shifting the same way and it backfired, but it's interesting they would post this even after the flip. I just don't really know what to think of it, so Ara, can you elaborate? You said you liked her bug vote the least, and I can see why, but we were the two wagons and she specifically started liking my post more when I started responding directly. Is there anything else?

I dont know if I'm for this plan. I think there's merit to staying hidden

Merit i do not wish to discuss

SunFan you are going to have to really sell me on Leetic with like five Nat 20 rolls back to back on persuasion


Also @HnH: fucking lol

I honestly have to vote for Hakulyte as it stands. He's the one who brought up how dangerous it is to not vote and didn't want to park a vote on sunfan despite knowing he will be absent. What I think is going on here is that he thinks there's a chance we won't lynch him because of the fact that he hasn't a vote. He's also being a LOT more involved so far than he was the previous day (which was notoriously off for Haku), and he's many players' top town right now, so I think this comes from a place of safety. He did give the reasoning that sunfan already had a vote and would only vote if ara unvoted, but I don't buy it considering how weak the vote on sunfan actually was, and sunfan lived because of this very principle. All the wolves need to do is pull it off one more day and they probably lock in the game. I do think he's been playing a great, useful game for us. He's kept every single player in his line of suspicion and has only voted for Bugkid in d0. He is in a great position to leverage his trust capital in order to steer the game, and therefore, I think he's the primary lynch candidate for today. If you reread him in iso, it seems to me that there's a good chance he has spent the game farming sympathy and suspicion in equal measure. Knowing Haku very personally, I think that's his gameplan here. At least judging by mechanics and flips, I can't see anything else.

I also think Thesunfan is the other wolf. There's obviously nothing indicating this in the meta, other than the fact that Weiss completely ghosted the game and wolves apparently are demotivated when they roll it. Not only that, but the aforementionned haku plan and behavior works best for him if he's solo wolfing, which is what would have happened during d0 due to the absence of Weiss. I think the threat of parking the vote on sunfan itself is nothing but a soft bussing just in case something went wrong, and even then, he didn't even commit to it, and again, this makes a lot of sense if we look at this behavior like he was justifying it by requesting ara to unvote. The ONLY thing that I don't understand is why we are both alive. I don't know what the freikugel was thinking if both myself and sunfan are alive. It's ok for them to believe that I wasn't a target, but the people who weren't interested in killing me in d0 were definitely interested in killing weiss, due to inactivity and other dynamic. I don't understand how they could pick raeko or roundbox over me and weiss/sunfan, and I think this is much more likely to make sense if sunfan is the freikugel, as they themselves are not an option and it becomes me vs others. However, that also implies that weiss ghosted a game with such a fantastic omega cool role, and while everyone enjoys the game for their own reason, I decide that this isn't likely. I also don't know how sunfan picks either raeko or roundbox here, but sunfan is a galaxy brained player compared to me, so... yeah. I don't think there's a scenario where sunfan is a VT here, so let's proceed with caution, but for now, I think Haku is who I would like to go down.

I will now go eat and expand on things I didn't touch when I'm back, but like, plz don't accuse me of not giving a fuck, I'm trying rly hard to play right especially since I should prolly be doing homework lul

Holy wallpost, Batman

Reading now but skimming it, I think it's icky that HnH ises Haku defense of them to the tone of like three paragraphs and then votes him when he knows Haku can't defend himself

Very fucking icky

What are you saying dude?!

It doesn't matter who Haku's partner is. I thought it might be sunfan because I see this plan happening with haku solowolfing with afk weiss. But that doesn't matter because it's haku I'm talking about.

Haku KNOWS extremely well that we wouldn't vote him out mechanically if he's unvoted. That's why we didn't want to vote weiss out for you!

If he's wolfing, he's fucking winning because he's now unkillable because we have to live with the risk that a mislynch of him has a 1/3 chance to kill another town - it's not even a loose cannon but a guaranteed extra town death

I don't think town haku EVER leaves this game unvoted. I don't think there's a chance of that ever happening, because he knows if he somehow dies for whatever reason and isn't around to defend himself, and he's the vengeful spirit, he's guaranteed to result into another town death and town loses!

Ok I think I see what you're saying

We didn't not kill Weiss because he didn't have a vote out, we didn't not kill Weiss because he didn't make any content whatsoever

This doesn't apply to Haku, and Haku has played the game long enough to know FFR loves to lynch players who miss EOD so long as they have posts

There's no indication that Haku feels, or has ever felt in past games, that if he doesn't vote then we'll policy save him

Something leetic may have overlooked wrt claiming Freddy Kruger or not is the fact that wolves may have color seered the vengeful, and this could throw them off