New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

**TC_Halogen** · 09-19-2012, 01:15 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

Originally posted by qqwref

Let's just pick a difficulty range, like 67-76 or something, and give the token to everyone who AAAs a song in that range. Maintaining a list of songs is dumb and y'all know it.

Originally posted by Jake Ferguson

Since 66 is where the FMOs start, just say any song difficulty 66+ unlocks Oni

^^^

I said both of these things in profile chat last night. (I'm assuming that's why the thread came out, jprox?)

Initially, I said do 70+ because that's where the "Master" difficulty starts, but that's extremely unfair for those who didn't have the chance to get it yet.

Anyone that has a 66+ AAA should be awarded the Oni token - enough of the subjectivity about what songs do and don't qualify. Rather than trying to modify the list of songs that are eligible for the token (like in the past), we should be trying to give reasoning as to why specific files shouldn't be rated in the difficulty range that gives the token.

**jprox445** · 09-19-2012, 01:20 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

Originally posted by TC_Halogen

^^^

I said both of these things in profile chat last night. (I'm assuming that's why the thread came out, jprox?)

Initially, I said do 70+ because that's where the "Master" difficulty starts, but that's extremely unfair for those who didn't have the chance to get it yet.

Anyone that has a 66+ AAA should be awarded the Oni token - enough of the subjectivity about what songs do and don't qualify. Rather than trying to modify the list of songs that are eligible for the token (like in the past), we should be trying to give reasoning as to why specific files shouldn't be rated in the difficulty range that gives the token.

Yes I pretty much made this thread because of the chat :P

but I have been pushing for this change for a long time.
2 years now :l

**TC_Halogen** · 09-19-2012, 01:25 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

It's definitely something that should happen.

**igotrhythm** · 09-19-2012, 01:32 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

Originally posted by Charu

Pretty much any song between 66-99 (Excluding songs that already have token requirements within, ie: 3020 and Reality).

And yes, even in the FGO/FSO territory because why not? I'm sure someone who doesn't have it would have the incentive for some reason to AAA an FGO for some odd reason to get ONI.

If too much, then 66-74 region.

3020 is an oni get, though. :/

I'm with QQ in that it should be any song in a given range. As always, though, gets are probably not going to be retroactive. That is to say, if the range was made to be 66-76, my Makiba AAA back in April wouldn't count even though it's a 66.

**One Winged Angel** · 09-19-2012, 01:37 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

I don't see why oni gets can't be rewarded retroactively. It's probably just a small handful of users anyways. They rightfully deserve the token just as much as those who would obtain it after the new reqs are established.

66+ gets my vote. Although I have a feeling that an upper bound will be established. In which case I'd say 66-75, ten full points of difficulty where oni can be obtained.

**foxfire667** · 09-19-2012, 01:47 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

What I was going to say seems pretty much covered in this thread.

66 seems to be the lowest current difficulty that unlocks oni, so any song 66+ should be allowed to unlock Oni. I've always thought the list of specific songs was rather unnecessary anyway, considering it really shouldn't matter what FMO you AAA'd.

**Arbliterator** · 09-19-2012, 01:57 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

I voted anything 70+

**noname219** · 09-19-2012, 02:06 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

Here's the songs that are/could unlock oni :

**SK8R43** · 09-19-2012, 02:12 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

I dont understand why anyone would want 70+? I mean, their are a GREAT deal of songs that are 65-69 that are plenty hard enough to unlock Oni..... I dont even HAVE a 70+ song yet and i have 13 or 14 FMO AAAs so i dont really think that is fair at all. Anyone care to Elaborate for me?

**lumphoboextreme** · 09-19-2012, 02:15 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

voted for 65/66+ should do it

**Arbliterator** · 09-19-2012, 02:19 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

Originally posted by SK8R43

I dont understand why anyone would want 70+? I mean, their are a GREAT deal of songs that are 65-69 that are plenty hard enough to unlock Oni..... I dont even HAVE a 70+ song yet and i have 13 or 14 FMO AAAs so i dont really think that is fair at all. Anyone care to Elaborate for me?

That's exactly why, I think the majority of songs in the 66-69 range are becoming too easy (like when they removed songs such as VB and SC from the list) and I always thought oni should be a hard token/achievement to earn since it appears alot more people are getting oni as the skill level of the community as a whole grows higher. However that's just my thought/opinion on the matter and it doesn't really matter if it's 66+ or 70+ to me.

**SK8R43** · 09-19-2012, 02:22 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

Well Southern cross/Vertex Beta are definitely FMO's, imo at least. But okay, how exactly are they getting easier? Just because most of the higher ups in the community are getting better doesnt mean that we need to keep making the reqs higher and higher and making FMO songs very challenging. Its not really fair to the others. I mean i get what you are saying but it definitely should not be 70+ because thats just not fair.
My 2cents

Edit: Does it really matter if more people are getting Oni? I mean, if you are good enough to AAA an FMO then you deserve it and it shouldnt matter if its a high FMO or a low FMO, they are both worthy of the token because you EARNED it by practicing and getting good enough to get an FMO lol

**rushyrulz** · 09-19-2012, 02:23 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

66+
Agreed, sk8r I've been advocating for SC and VB to be FMOs for quite some time now.

**j-rodd123** · 09-19-2012, 02:25 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

Originally posted by Arbliterator

That's exactly why, I think the majority of songs in the 66-69 range are becoming too easy (like when they removed songs such as VB and SC from the list) and I always thought oni should be a hard token/achievement to earn since it appears alot more people are getting oni as the skill level of the community as a whole grows higher. However that's just my thought/opinion on the matter and it doesn't really matter if it's 66+ or 70+ to me.

VB and SC were removed because it was agreed upon that they weren't fmos and thus shouldn't unlock the token designed for aaaing an fmo lol.

66+ makes most sense now that i think about it

**SK8R43** · 09-19-2012, 02:26 PM

Re: New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

Exactly what i am thinking Mrpop. Making the reqs higher and higher as the years go on is just not right. People practice and get better, its just how it works.

EDIT: Right Rushy, I really have NO idea how Southern Cross is not FMO. I mean come on Jump stream for that long is not anything less. Same for Vertex Beta, Fast paced stream is not anything less, come on.

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