Logical Fallacy and You!

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  • #61
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    DaBackpack
    • Mar 2014
    • 918

    Re: Logical Fallacy and You!

    Originally posted by Chrissi
    The ad hominem attack is the part where you call the person an idiot. The fallacy is connecting that idiocy to their ability to argue well.

    Or at least this is my understanding. I could be wrong.
    This is correct in the informal fallacy aspect, yeah. If I was arguing with like Ben Shapiro I'd probably pretty frequently be like "hahaha you're fucking stupid but that's not why you're wrong! You're wrong because of xyz..."

    However, in the field of rhetoric, it might be seen as a fallacy TOO. After all, the words "fucking stupid" DO have a connotation to them, one that could reasonably undermine the audience's perception about the argumentation of that person. The "fallacy" might be seen as present even if you don't make that explicit connection, since, like so many rhetorical strategies, the subtext and implicit meaning of that attack serve to undermine your opponent's ethos, which directly connects with their perceived correctness.

    EDIT: To be clear I'm in the "not a fallacy" camp since I've studied more as a logician than a debater, but the issue isn't always clear-cut depending on what angle a certain person comes from.
    Last edited by DaBackpack; 07-29-2020, 12:34 AM.


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    • #62
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      Funnygurl555
      • Dec 2010
      • 1999

      Re: Logical Fallacy and You!

      13 years later, dbp swoops in with the dope clarification
      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
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      Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
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      GET DUNKED FUNNY
      (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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      • #63
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        mellon_collie
        • May 2017
        • 156

        Re: Logical Fallacy and You!

        I miss Chrissi

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        • #64
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          MixMasterLar
          • Aug 2006
          • 5436

          Re: Logical Fallacy and You!

          DBP setting the record straight, decades be damned
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          • #65
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            choof
            • Nov 2013
            • 8596

            Re: Logical Fallacy and You!

            Originally posted by devonin
            Cum
            agreed

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            • #66
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              XelNya
              • Sep 2012
              • 3372

              Re: Logical Fallacy and You!

              I know a person or two who ought to read that list in the OP.

              Oh also, nice bump.

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              • #67
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                carterlukh
                • Mar 2025
                • 5

                Re: Logical Fallacy and You!

                Yeah, this is a solid breakdown of logical fallacies. Funny how often we see these in everyday arguments without even realizing. The "slippery slope" and "ad hominem" ones get thrown around a lot online. Good stuff!

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                • #68
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                  carterlukh
                  • Mar 2025
                  • 5

                  Re: Logical Fallacy and You!

                  Really solid breakdown! Logical fallacies trip up so many discussions, and half the time ppl don’t even realize they’re using them. Love how you explained each one with examples, makes it super easy to understand. Gonna bookmark this for sure!

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