Rap is technically music

[Gravity Kitten]

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[ilikexd]

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See what gets me is, huge swats of Rap is specifically targeted to Black Culture but when someone not that demographic doesn't understand the appeal it's becausethey don't know black people apparently.

Maybe it's just that people don't get what is specifically not made for them instead?

Although, the fact that mainstream rap makes this claim while traditionally having problematic issues with womanizing, gang violence and toxic tribe mentality probably doesn't help their case? Like if I was black I would probably be pissed that the genre made for my culture casually drops lines about picking up hoes and killing fuckers I don't agree with as the norm.


This doesn't represent the entirety of the genre (because of course not, I'm not stupid to think any musical genre is completely one note) but damn if it feels like that's what a good majority of it is and it's off putting to anyone who doesn't want to internalize that kind of content. No amount of positive examples you can link me could outnumber me giving you sever problematic ones that probably got more airtime (although if you want to be petty and play that out, it's gonna have to be later in the week)

[Not devonin]

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See what gets me is, huge swats of Rap is specifically targeted to Black Culture but when someone not that demographic doesn't understand the appeal it's because they don't know black people apparently.

I didn't ask whether he knew any black people because he didn't get the appeal of rap, I asked whether he knew any black people because he said rap music was "70s gang slang and street sounds"

[ilikexd]

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i want to hear a hip hop instrumental made out of street sounds

[Not devonin]

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i want to hear a hip hop instrumental made out of street sounds

Not hip-hop but apparently this is how all rap is made according to krispy, but imagine calling this "not music"

[gold stinger]

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Not hip-hop but apparently this is how all rap is made according to krispy, but imagine calling this "not music"

HerBIE

*breakcore doots intensify*

[Funnygurl555]

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Er...no I didn't forget anything from that direct quote from existing song lyrics.

im dumb

[s1rnight]

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DISCLAIMER: i only listen to about five piano composers from the 19th and 20th century

imo the pitch aspect of rap is by far the most interesting thing about it, using speech as ur melody gives u access to INHARMONIC PITCH RELATIONS which is so esoteric that it took white (and jewish) people until world war 1 to discover it. (ok, not really) i would even wager (i have never listened to a rap song in my life) that many of these pitch relations are used intelligently, such as "making the pitch go higher when u are more excited", "using a similar pitch area or exact pitch when you are repeating a word, or a rhyming schema", or "general expressivity of tone (for many definitions of tone)". if you listen to lots of twelve-tone or modern classical composers your brain starts to hear *everything* melodically and everything as connected through harmony so there's no issue with me on that front. just hearing somebody who has an interesting way of talking feels like an iridescent bird flying through space!!!! kind of like reading a weird person post on a forum. hoo. ok

[s1rnight]

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(i got linked to this thread through discord, hello everyone)

[ilikexd]

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what if rap had TOO much pitch? like obviously most rap has not enough pitch to be music. but what if a rap song had like >14 pitches, then could it actually be so much pitch that it cancels out and becomes non-music again?

[s1rnight]

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rap has at least 13,700 discrete pitches!!!!

[ilikexd]

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also a common mistake many listeners of hip hop make is they think that all the rappers are singing about "bitches" and that it's misogynistic or to quote MixMasterLar "problematic issues with womanizing" but actually they are saying "pitches" because they know that if there aren't enough pitches in the song it won't technically be music and they won't be able to record it and share it with people

[Not devonin]

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You know what CT needs? A local mod :P

[MixMasterLar]

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You know what CT needs? A local mod :P

To be fair this is like the most action any of these forums get now.

Kinda just enjoying the activity at this point.

[Funnygurl555]

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this was truly a great thread