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The Patriots had there time in the spot lite, you gotta hand it to them for there dynasty, they were simply unstoppable. The Steelers on the other hand, 6 rings is a very significant accomplishment. Also they are always a contender to be in the playoffs every year.
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How can you even class the Patriots with Dallas and Pittsburgh? Sure they had that one really good year but both Dallas and Pittsburgh had dynasties(note the plural use of the word). As much as I may differ in opinion with Pittsburgh fans I will not class New England with teams that have proven themselves great time and time again.Comment
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Honestly bandwagon plays a huge part in fan-base. This year being either Indi or NO.sigpicComment
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CJ, super kid is pointing out that you did say 10 Super Bowls, when in reality it was 10 championship games; 8 of which were Super Bowls.
HOWEVER, the point still remains that with their 8 SUPER BOWL appearances, they still have more than the Steelers.
Now I'm not a fan of either, but I would have to pick the Cowboys over the Steelers. HOWEVER, Dallas is not my choice and here's my reasoning behind my choice, and why not the other 3.
Let's face it. True Pittsburgh has 6 Super Bowls: one of which they had about 17 horseshoes crammed up each players' butt AND barely made the playoffs by the skin of their teeth, and the latest, off of a spectacular catch, but yet another lucksack. While they may have the most Super Bowl victories, won the most AFL/AFC championship games, and hosted more conference championship matches (with 10) than any other franchise, and have missed the playoffs only 13 times since 1972 (for all those not fluent in math, 23 appearances compared to 13), but this could be because of the division the Steelers play(ed) in. They have been in the AFC North since 2001 winning the division title 4 out of the 7 times. Their previous division, the AFC Central back when there were up to 6 teams in the division, had only one real source of competition in the Baltimore Ravens as Tennessee, Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Jacksonville aren't exactly stellar football material. Compare that to someone like the Cowboys who have to deal with AT LEAST one other playoff contender each year. The Giants, and Eagles are always a lock for a playoff spot every year along with the Cowboys, occasionally having all 3 make the playoffs. Their 4th division mate, the Redskins, may not be playoff material, but they have a decent team that can possibly make a run for it.
New England is only on that list thanks to one name: Tom Brady. And as of lately, Randy Moss. Had Drew Bledsoe not gotten injured in Week 2 of the 2001 campaign, we may never would have heard that name. Also, they have only been good since the beginning of the decade, as (with the exceptions of making it to Super Bowl XX where they lost to the Bears 46-10, as well as Super Bowl XXXI versus Green Bay which NE lost 35-21) they have had mediocre seasons at best. Not too mention, coach Belichek must've reached the bottom of his barrel of crack because some of the choices he's made this year have been questionable to the point of insanity.
Green Bay is a good choice to choose because of the dedicated fans and their cheeseheads, as well as having one of the most storied franchises (winners of the first 2 Super Bowls thanks to coach Vince Lombardi's genius) as well as having the most league championships with 12 (3 of them being Super Bowls) and with the exception of 2005's 4-12 record, they had a winning record every year since 1991. While that did stop in 2008 with a 6-10 record, 7 of those games were lost by 4 points or less. While this year may also be a disappointment, keep in mind that this is because their QB is getting no protection. However, this is not about now, this is about history as well. And while most of that history has been well documented in the past 20 years, namely because of a certain number 4 wearing, impossible-to-pronounce last name bearing individual, that does not undermine the fact that the green and yellow clad warriors of Lambeau Field have probably the longest and most storied history of any professional football franchise and for good reason.
Dallas has had their good years, most notably the 90's where they made the playoffs all but 2 years, and won 3 Super Bowls. The late 60's to early 80's were also notable as they missed the playoffs only once from 1966 to 1983, however only yielded 2 Super Bowl wins. The late 80's was the, how I say, downfall of the Cowboys, as from 1984-1990, only once did they make the playoffs (1985 when they won the division with a 10-6 record) and their best record in that timespan was 9-7 in '84 as they continued on with records of 7-9, 7-9, 3-13, 1-15, and 7-9 respectively. While they have picked it up since the turn of the millennium, they have not been outstanding with the exception of 2007's 13-3 record.
tl;dr version: If you go by Super Bowls: Pitt
Championships: Green Bay
History: Green Bay
Fanbase: Dallas
Don't even know why it's on the list: New England.
G. Bay is my pick.
PS. OSHI- almost lost this.
PPS. This essay brought to you by someone who's 3-4 hours away from the nearest NFL stadium AND across the border to the north. Yeah that's right, y'all just got upstaged by a Canadian.Last edited by T-Force; 12-6-2009, 11:38 PM.Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?Comment
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I would say that the best would be either Dallas or Pittsburgh as they have had the most success through many, many years, and have won many titles under different coaches. With the recent success of the Steelers I'd probably place them above the Cowboys.There is a 50% chance your pillow will eat you while you are sleeping.Comment
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I believe you misunderstood my overall idea by stating that, but in a sense you're are right. I meant that the recent success of the Steelers has reeled them more super bowl wins than the Cowboys in their franchises history, thus I would place the franchise overall (throughout all their years) as the greatest franchise. I am not basing it solely on their success today as if their past success meant nothing, that would be a dumbass thing to do.There is a 50% chance your pillow will eat you while you are sleeping.Comment
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I want to point something out to you people about New England, even though i am a Patriots fan, I believe we have only won an super bowls in the Brady Era, we never won one before that
Big Time Boston Fan, Bruins, Celtics, Red Sox, and Patriots, beat that line-up
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I wonder why the Lions are still in the leagueComment
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Dude, all this NFL crap is utter nonsense. Stop watching such mindless American dribble and support a sport the world actually plays. We wrongly call it Soccer. The world cup is coming up and none of you can really appreciate it. This American football is exactly the kind of chest-thumping that makes other countries think we're ignorant and intolerant and we should be supporting soccer instead.
Naw that sh*ts gay. Go Eagles!
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