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  • MalDON
    Retired Staff
    • Feb 2004
    • 619

    #46
    Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

    You can get urls for flash ads. Download firebug for firefox, then use the inspect tool, hover over the ad and it will show you the html where the ad is. You should be able to get the swf that way.

    Edit: Tokzic's posts (and one of mine) were deleted because now is not the time to argue over how the site is being run.
    Last edited by MalDON; 12-25-2008, 02:52 PM.

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    • pokelda
      ⁽ ´ཀ`⁾
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jun 2006
      • 3876

      #47
      Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

      no i meant GET RID OF THEM

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      • Patricoo
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2003
        • 432

        #48
        Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

        I will say this about ads on this site. They are terrible. (I haven't read the "argument" between tokzic's posts and MalDONs because apparently the whole things was deleted before I could read it, if you guys went over this I'm sorry.)

        Why are the ads terrible? Because they don't target the audience here at all.

        The only ad I've seen on FFR related to the playerbase was one for a samurai warrior game, (of which I played for two days to great disappointment. Yes, I clicked on it multiple times.) Ads do work on here, but there are things on this site trying to direct a base of mostly 14-17 year olds to buying wallets, financing, AOL.com, getting degrees online, buying cars, and even pottery barn. I don't know what FFR uses to gather it's advertising cash, but I'm willing to guess that it's a generic "automatic" system where a computer decides based on bidding and statistics, and not a "billboard for hire" system where an actual human discerns what is the best material to advertise.

        Someone with a brain should be deciding who advertises when. Right now I hardly see anything here that tries to appeal to my demographic.

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        • MalDON
          Retired Staff
          • Feb 2004
          • 619

          #49
          Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

          Originally posted by Patricoo
          I will say this about ads on this site. They are terrible. (I haven't read the "argument" between tokzic's posts and MalDONs because apparently the whole things was deleted before I could read it, if you guys went over this I'm sorry.)

          Why are the ads terrible? Because they don't target the audience here at all.

          The only ad I've seen on FFR related to the playerbase was one for a samurai warrior game, (of which I played for two days to great disappointment. Yes, I clicked on it multiple times.) Ads do work on here, but there are things on this site trying to direct a base of mostly 14-17 year olds to buying wallets, financing, AOL.com, getting degrees online, buying cars, and even pottery barn. I don't know what FFR uses to gather it's advertising cash, but I'm willing to guess that it's a generic "automatic" system where a computer decides based on bidding and statistics, and not a "billboard for hire" system where an actual human discerns what is the best material to advertise.

          Someone with a brain should be deciding who advertises when. Right now I hardly see anything here that tries to appeal to my demographic.
          That's almost entirely up to the advertisement companies. Many of those ads are fillers when there are no targetable ads available.

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          • marth1992
            FFR Player
            • May 2005
            • 144

            #50
            Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

            yea ive started seeing these adds too (this time its male enhancement =/ ), and i always thought google adds were related to the content on the site, i remember a while back, every single ad was for servers due to that post at the bottom of ffr

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            • Patricoo
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2003
              • 432

              #51
              Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

              Originally posted by MalDON
              That's almost entirely up to the advertisement companies. Many of those ads are fillers when there are no targetable ads available.
              Advertising companies? FFR is owned by one of the admins here right? (Synth?) Not a domain hoster I thought. The owner/person in charge of adspace should be approving the ads that run here or actively searching for places that would pay good cash to reach a 15-17 group that can score thousands of hits an hour.

              Like I said, why are we using an ad service program? It just doesn't make any sense, especially considering how specific of a demographic we are. It sounds like someone thought this would be easy, but is losing potential cash because "easy" turned into "lazy."

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              • sumzup
                (+ (- (/ (* 1 2) 3) 4) 5)
                • Nov 2005
                • 1398

                #52
                Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

                It's much easier to contract to an advertiser that deals with hundreds of companies instead of making arrangements with those companies on a one-on-one basis.

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                • Patricoo
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 432

                  #53
                  Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

                  Of course. But at the cost of effort is the cost of cash. I have AOL at the top of my screen. A few reloads ago there was one for women's dieting and dating tips.

                  Seriously? You think that contractor dished out top dollar to FFR for that?

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                  • MalDON
                    Retired Staff
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 619

                    #54
                    Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

                    Everyone uses advertisement management services. Unfortunately, the one we use decided to turn bad. Myspace uses the same service we use. And there's reports of myspace getting ad redirects as well.

                    Let me re-iterate this:

                    None of the ads shown are moderated by FFR. It is the responsibility of the ad providing service to ensure that the ads are clean and malicious code free.

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                    • Kiyofoxx
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2008
                      • 28

                      #55
                      Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

                      As I said when i posted this; I just feel it's wrong with the kinds of ads, and how they are popping up. It started about 5 days ago and its really driving me crazy.
                      They just do it randomly too; I was writing a PM to a friend and I had typed about 5 and a half lengthy paragraphs, and then the page redirected me to this "blinxy" site which has cartoon dolls with heads the size of toilets. I had to write it again. Apart from the annoyance of writing it out again, it just shouldnt happen.

                      Theres about four kinds of advertisements I keep getting which seem to be Male enlargement, adult fun, blinxy (or whatever it is), and a video of a nerd on about some random dyson.

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                      • Kiyofoxx
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2008
                        • 28

                        #56
                        Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

                        Something to add on;
                        After just posting that last reply I was redirected to it. again.

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                        • MalDON
                          Retired Staff
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 619

                          #57
                          Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

                          Originally posted by Kiyofoxx
                          Something to add on;
                          After just posting that last reply I was redirected to it. again.
                          Ans why don't I have a pm with the address it redirected you to? We can't fix this unless you guys help out. I can't sit here logged out refreshing the page until I get one. I simply don't have the time. Much easier to have you guys pm me when it happens.

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                          • Kiyofoxx
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2008
                            • 28

                            #58
                            Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx



                            There you go.
                            The URL keeps changing. The numbers change.

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                            • Shadowcliff
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 695

                              #59
                              Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

                              Now here is an example of an ad with relevance; one that better targets FFR's audience.

                              I got this one when I refreshed, at the bottom of this very page.
                              I think they would get more clicks than, say, chubby gay dating.

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                              • xingyguy
                                Bagel
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 266

                                #60
                                Re: Ffr rant. Banners. Advertisements. Wtf. Dx

                                Use noscript.
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                                Coward Killing Time: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...p?songid=38838

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