UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

[Nullifidian]

Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

You're right, there probably isn't a teapot orbiting between Earth and Mars. But perhaps there is something.

Ok?.. but that wasn't what was being asked now was it? Why does the FSM argument fail? What makes creationism not an arbitrary story?

[Reincarnate]

Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

stop... I... can't...

I have to go, or else I'm going to get sucked in

[MinaciousGrace]

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is this the point where i just start posting gay porn in the thread and get banned for a week

[Nullifidian]

Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

stop... I... can't...

I have to go, or else I'm going to get sucked in

Is this you right now?

[benguino]

Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

Ok.. but that wasn't what was being asked now was it? Why does the FSM argument fail? What makes creationism not an arbitrary story?

A story for creationism is only arbitrary if you choose an arbitrary story. Consider all the possible stories one could possibly come up with. Each one probably has an extremely low probability of holding true especially if it's filled with arbitrarily chosen details (e.g. like our creator is a pink fluffy unicorn who stuffs its face with candy and poops out rainbows). But I'm not considering any one particular story. I'm considering the set of all possible stories for creationism because I don't care about the details.

Here is a terrible example: Suppose I ask you to think of a prime number and for you not to tell me. And I ask you, "is it odd?" Now did I choose to ask if it was odd arbitrarily? No, I chose that because I know that all but one of the prime numbers are odd. Now consider each prime number that is also odd. If I had asked you, "Is it 17?" or "Is it 23" those would seem like arbitrary choices but considering all the odd numbers as a whole is not. However, it may actually be the case that the number chosen was in fact 17 or 23.

Similarly, the story of the FSM is pretty arbitrary. However, the set of all possible stories for creationism isn't trivially arbitrary.

PS I'm done...I don't want to waste more of my day stuck in this thread.

[Reincarnate]

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oh thank god I almost didn't make it

[Nullifidian]

Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

A story for creationism is only arbitrary if you choose an arbitrary story. Consider all the possible stories one could possibly come up with. Each one probably has an extremely low probability of holding true especially if it's filled with arbitrarily chosen details (e.g. like our creator is a pink fluffy unicorn who stuffs its face with candy and poops out rainbows). But I'm not considering any one particular story. I'm considering the set of all possible stories for creationism because I don't care about the details.

Here is a terrible example: Suppose I ask you to think of a prime number and for you not to tell me. And I ask you, "is it odd?" Now did I choose to ask if it was odd arbitrarily? No, I chose that because I know that all but one of the prime numbers are odd. Now consider each prime number that is also odd. If I had asked you, "Is it 17?" or "Is it 23" those would seem like arbitrary choices but considering all the odd numbers as a whole is not. However, it may actually be the case that the number chosen was in fact 17 or 23.

Similarly, the story of the FSM is pretty arbitrary. However, the set of all possible stories for creationism isn't trivially arbitrary.

PS I'm done...I don't want to waste more of my day stuck in this thread.

If the initial premise of all those stories is arbitrary (i.e. universe needs a creator), the combination of all those stories doesn't magically turn into something not arbitrary or something likely.

You're right though, that is a terrible example.

It's funny how you complained about argument by analogy and then you use argument by analogy.

[benguino]

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Can we lock this thread before I change my mind?

Edit: my bad, there might be some people that actually want to talk about the OP. Carry on.

[Pseudo Enigma]

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but what is reality, and how did it begin riddle me that FOOL

is this the real life?

[igotrhythm]

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Is this just fantasy?

[Nullifidian]

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[qqwref]

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Sick but yet they can teach evaluation Which has no scientific backing as well. They are both just theory s if you want to look at it from a "scientific" point of veiw.

I hope everyone who posts stuff like this is joking because

wow

[devonin]

Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

Rubix, stay strong. I know you can do it.

[iCeCuBEz v2]

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lol that this is even like........... a debate

what is there to even teach creationism.........

chapter 1: god did it
chapter 2: .......

[benguino]

Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

FSM did it.