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  • One Winged Angel
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    • Mar 2007
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    #31
    Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

    4th year Honours Commerce student here, haven't been enjoying what I'm learning as of late so my grades have taken a bit of a dip (nothing too drastic though). Originally I wanted to take the music route and begin playing piano professionally, but my parents urged me to get at least an undergrad in some sort of non-music as a backup.

    In high school, I was a massive keener (93+ in everything, 100 in a few math courses lol). Now most of my grades are high 70s/low 80s, which is still fairly high considering the averages of some of my courses. To be honest, getting good grades in school isn't nearly as important as ultimately getting the certification, as most employers aren't going to be looking at your transcripts. As long as you obtain some sort of degree related to the career field you wish to work in, you'll most likely be safe in securing a type of job you want.

    Obviously if you lack a degree in the field of work you're interested in, those that have one may have the upper hand during the initial job search. But once you land your first 'real' job, future employers will focus much less on post-secondary education and much more on your work experience as credentials for the job.

    tl;dr - feel free to slack off in school unless your future job requires ridic high grades for entry level positions. If you know what you want to do with your life and you think you'd be good at doing it, you're probably good to go.


    Originally posted by ilikexd
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    • UnkownMan
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      • Apr 2007
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      #32
      Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

      I'm too cool for the school.
      Originally posted by Choofers
      2/10 smoke weed every other day, what up den
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      • Hazelle
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        • Mar 2007
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        #33
        Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

        Originally posted by One Winged Angel
        4th year Honours Commerce student here, haven't been enjoying what I'm learning as of late so my grades have taken a bit of a dip (nothing too drastic though). Originally I wanted to take the music route and begin playing piano professionally, but my parents urged me to get at least an undergrad in some sort of non-music as a backup.

        In high school, I was a massive keener (93+ in everything, 100 in a few math courses lol). Now most of my grades are high 70s/low 80s, which is still fairly high considering the averages of some of my courses. To be honest, getting good grades in school isn't nearly as important as ultimately getting the certification, as most employers aren't going to be looking at your transcripts. As long as you obtain some sort of degree related to the career field you wish to work in, you'll most likely be safe in securing a type of job you want.

        Obviously if you lack a degree in the field of work you're interested in, those that have one may have the upper hand during the initial job search. But once you land your first 'real' job, future employers will focus much less on post-secondary education and much more on your work experience as credentials for the job.

        tl;dr - feel free to slack off in school unless your future job requires ridic high grades for entry level positions. If you know what you want to do with your life and you think you'd be good at doing it, you're probably good to go.
        Idk if giving the advice of "slacking off" is a good idea. Students should put full effort into every class they take, and try to take an interest in it. Sure, you will have to cut out 4 hours or whatever of your free time outside of school a day, but it's totally worth it to get those good grades. It feels SO GOOD to get an A or B, and to find out after all that hard work, you got on the dean's list! Don't waste your student loans and time just to scrape by your college years, put those years to use!
        Even if the classes aren't exactly toward what your major is in, you should still try your best. Electives and filler classes make you a more intelligent person, and hey, you may discover a class or subject that you're even more interested than what you're majoring toward! Who knows.
        Besides, to get good grades mean you understand the material well and are competent enough to get hired with full confidence in the workforce!
        TL;DR: Don't slack - it feels so good to get good grades. Put effort in the time and $$ you use to get in school.

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        • pmonibuv1
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          • Aug 2007
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          #34
          Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

          Hmmm. I'm the kind of student that puts enough work in school to get an average grade. I don't do all the extra work to get the high 90's that i'm "supposed" to be getting so I always end up with mid 70's to mis 80's as final grades. I'd say i'm not too good at school but more of the average student. But anyway, i'm predicting a tough time in my later years @__@
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          • Poison-
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            • Nov 2010
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            #35
            Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

            I hate school, but I know that to have the kind of life I want to have in the future, I have to go to University, and to get into University I need to have good grades. I slacked off in my earlier high school years and I'm paying for it now. But my grades at the moment are amazing and I plan on keeping them that way.

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            • One Winged Angel
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              #36
              Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

              Originally posted by Hazelle
              Idk if giving the advice of "slacking off" is a good idea.
              I never advised anyone to slack off, nor did I suggest or insinuate that slacking off will put you in some sort of advantageous position in the future. I said "feel free to", as again, most employers aren't going to be looking at your transcripts after providing your degree or certification. Unless you're in the top 0.1% (or perhaps an even smaller percentage), chances are you're not going to be headhunted by some company during post-secondary education, which puts everyone graduating with an average anywhere between 60-80% (maybe even closer to 90% on the upper bound) on an almost level playing field post-graduation.

              If you have the intelligence and diligence to set aside enough time to graduate with top marks at a reputable post-secondary institution, all the power to you and congrats. Otherwise, put in the effort to do reasonably well and don't stress out. Better to enjoy yourself during these years than waste them trying to increase your grades by 5-10% when there's a very likely chance that the increase in grade percentage will have absolutely no effect on your future.


              Originally posted by ilikexd
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              • Poison-
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                • Nov 2010
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                #37
                Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                I agree with you for the most part OWA, but those 5-10% on your grades could be the difference of a great deal of money in terms of scholarships.

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                • Reincarnate
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #38
                  Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                  Incoming brutal truths:

                  The world is unfair and oftentimes skewed in favor of the haves over the have-nots.

                  I went to an Ivy League uni and I can tell you from experience that most of my peers came from very well-off families. It's easier to get ahead when your family is loaded, and if you're not loaded, you need supportive/intelligent parents. If you're like me and had neither, then you probably know how hard it is to focus on your studies when you simply don't have a good support network. I grew up with a lot of physical/emotional abuse, tons of unfair rules, no school help, nobody to confide in, nobody to get encouragement from, no financial support, etc -- couldn't get my parents to drive me to EC activities. Had to apply to my colleges in secret. Most kids in my situation don't end up as lucky as I am right now. The type of school you go to is usually very heavily correlated with the education/intelligence level of your parents, and that's not something any of us have control over.

                  So I don't see community college as a bad thing. You don't need an upper-tier education or gobs of money to be happy, although there is something to be said for having financial security. Having security is not the same as being rich -- it's about being responsible with money. When you earn a paycheck, do you blow 90% of it on stupid shit or do you save it? Do you live below your means or are you living from paycheck to paycheck? You'd be surprised at how much more money you have at your disposal when you take the time to really list out your expenses and work out an optimization scheme. What *will* make you miserable is being broke.

                  What will matter more than anything is intellectual drive, skills, responsible decision-making, and attitude.

                  OWA: Telling people it's OK to slack off is horrible advice lmfao.
                  Last edited by Reincarnate; 03-3-2012, 08:20 PM.

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                  • One Winged Angel
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                    #39
                    Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                    Originally posted by Reincarnate
                    What will matter more than anything is intellectual drive, skills, responsible decision-making, and attitude.

                    OWA: Telling people it's OK to slack off is horrible advice lmfao.
                    Assuming you possess what's bolded, I don't see what's wrong with what I said. A by-product of getting better grades is an increase in the skills above. I'm talking solely about what your grades are gonna do for you in the future.

                    There's a bunch of kids in my program that eat, sleep, and breathe their studies. Hey, they're engaged, good for them. But they have absolutely no social lives whatsoever. Most of these keeners are averaging low-mid 80s, and quite a few of them have never held a job outside of school (which teaches you a fuckload about time management and responsibility, looks better on a resume, and preps you for your future career). I could understand them if they needed to be putting in 5-6 hours a day to pull their marks and if they didn't, they'd dip to below 60. But that's not the case.

                    Put in a solid hour or two a day and you should be good to go. Maybe you guys are overestimating the grade gap or something. If your best work potential is an 88 with 4-5 hours of work a day and you're currently pulling 75-80 with 1-2 hours of work a day, that's fine imho. Don't slack off to the point of going from a potential 88 to sub 60s. That's not slacking off, that's doing nothing.
                    Last edited by One Winged Angel; 03-3-2012, 08:24 PM.


                    Originally posted by ilikexd
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                    • Reincarnate
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #40
                      Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                      Grades open doors. Not having the grades mean you have to compensate elsewhere.

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                      • One Winged Angel
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                        #41
                        Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                        I didn't disregard the fact that having top grades opens doors (being headhunted, etc.) I even said in my first post that if you're capable of achieving that, go for it. This is assuming you're not going to be 95+ no matter how much effort you put in.


                        Originally posted by ilikexd
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                        • Reincarnate
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #42
                          Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                          Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                          To be honest, getting good grades in school isn't nearly as important as ultimately getting the certification, as most employers aren't going to be looking at your transcripts. As long as you obtain some sort of degree related to the career field you wish to work in, you'll most likely be safe in securing a type of job you want.
                          It's true that after your first job, your grades don't really matter to employers. But various jobs give different types of experience/lead-ins to other jobs and opportunities, etc. It can be hard to jump from one field to another without taking a hit or being blocked out due to lack of education or experience. It's all a huge chain.

                          The general point here is that nothing's impossible, but the longer you wait, the more barriers you have to overcome. Some gaps become exponentially wider as time progresses.

                          Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                          Put in a solid hour or two a day and you should be good to go. Maybe you guys are overestimating the grade gap or something. If your best work potential is an 88 with 4-5 hours of work a day and you're currently pulling 75-80 with 1-2 hours of work a day, that's fine imho. Don't slack off to the point of going from a potential 88 to sub 60s. That's not slacking off, that's doing nothing.
                          I would argue that if you can get an 88, go for the 88. If it takes you 4-5 hours, so be it. Sometimes a lot of hard work is required to get ahead, and I think it does people a disservice to settle.
                          Last edited by Reincarnate; 03-3-2012, 09:15 PM.

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                          • dAnceguy117
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                            #43
                            Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                            Originally posted by Vanilla Mnm
                            I feel like everyone on this site is amazing at school and does so good. I do terrible >.> and I'm going to a community college next year as well.
                            High school forces people to juggle a ton of different subjects. Are there any areas in which you excel? College could be a great opportunity for a grade boost if you really work for it. You can pick a preferred major, take fewer classes at one time, cut some of the BS and study with a tighter focus.

                            Also, +1 to the notion that attending a community college is a completely viable path to success, and that people who assume otherwise are str8 ignant.

                            Originally posted by Bynary Fission
                            Plus, it guaranteed admission to my local university (University of Central Florida, or UCF), where I am currently achieving identical grades as I work towards my 4-year. I plan on graduating by the end of the year.
                            whoa duuuuude we are totally at the same school. We oughtta grab a bite to eat in the union sometime. How you liking the Poli Sci program? And you said you're gonna graduate at 18 or 19? That is fast track as hell, haha. Way to go

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                            • BethanyBangs
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                              #44
                              Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                              Eh, I'm one of those people that slack off, a lot. So yes, I can be bad sometimes. But even slacking off still results in A's and B's which is good enough for me.. Asian parents flip if you get a C or under LOL. Also, I'm gonna be going to a technical/vocational college after high school in a few months.
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                              • Bynary Fission
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                                #45
                                Re: Is anyone here not good at school?

                                Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                                whoa duuuuude we are totally at the same school. We oughtta grab a bite to eat in the union sometime. How you liking the Poli Sci program? And you said you're gonna graduate at 18 or 19? That is fast track as hell, haha. Way to go
                                Yo! That's awesome - we really SHOULD meet. Message me on my profile or by PM and I can give you more details (I don't want to derail this thread, haha).
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