Final Fantasy XIV

[Archelos]

Re: Final Fantasy XIV

I care because I don't like Final Fantasy and I think other RPGs are better and I want to see them succeed.

You're basing success on a comparison. The Tales series has 10+ games now. The Disgaea series and its companion strategy RPGs now have something like 6 if you count the 3 Disgaea games, and then La Pucelle, Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom. Oh, and then the multiple handheld releases. You're throwing around a bunch of sales figures as if a game doesn't sell as much as Final Fantasy, it's not successful.

Other games are succeeding, Squeek. And they're doing so without you coming into threads where fans of a game like to talk about the game and blow it up in their faces about how you hate it. There's nothing wrong with voicing your opinion. Here's mine: I don't think Final Fantasy's very good either.

But tripling the post count of the actual fans accomplishes nothing. You need a single post to voice your opinion about something. A couple more if you want to discuss with someone why. What you're doing in the Final Fantasy threads is more than voicing your opinion. You're practically campaigning for the series to be shut down.

What if, in every Tales thread, somebody made heaps of posts about how horrible the series is? Wouldn't it get old to see all the negativity about something you like?

I'm not saying your opinion sucks; I SHARE IT. But that doesn't mean I need to be negative in a place where people want to actually talk about the game. You don't even talk about the actual topic game; you rant about the whole series in general. You're entitled to your opinion, but SO ARE OTHER PEOPLE. What I see is you in here trying to say that other people's opinions are a fraud because they just like the name, not the actual game.

Get over it.

EDIT:

Is that so selfish?

To want what you want for other RPGs, no. To derail other people's conversations about games to make your point, yes. Doing so is placing your opinion above the opinions of the people that like the game.

However, these people are too ignorant to even notice. They'll never watch anything other than Naruto and Bleach.

Excuse me? People are ignorant because they stick to certain series of anime? People are ignorant because they don't watch what YOU watch? People are ignorant because they don't share YOUR opinion?

You think people are OBLIGATED to watch the shows you think are good? If I watch one anime in my whole life, enjoy it, and never watch any others because I don't want to, does that make me ignorant? Because I chose I only wanted to watch one anime, and wanted to spend my time doing other things when not watching that particular anime? Am I ignorant now?

You have a lot to learn about people.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Re: Final Fantasy XIV

Popular does not mean right. Popular does not mean best. Popular means advertising was most effective.

This goes for the whole anime section as well, just with toys and commercials etc..

at least 1% of the people who bought a PS3 did so solely because FF13 would be released on the PS3 (and maybe KH3 too).

KH3 is a myth, that sh*t has been pushed backed like an entire year+

[MalReynolds]

Re: Final Fantasy XIV

I bought it for the Ratchet Series!

Which, so far, has been a let down

[Squeek]

Re: Final Fantasy XIV

Archelos are you angry with me for something? You're nitpicking every damn thing I write.

Lay off, man. Seriously.

That was my "I'm done" post. Go post about FF14 now, even though there's still no information on it to write about.

ps - I like how through all of that, nobody managed to tell me why they like Final Fantasy.

[SethSquall]

Re: Final Fantasy XIV

People do stick with Final Fantasy because it's "Final Fantasy", it's obvious. I stuck with Sonic games because they were Sonic. When a franchise proves they can make a good couple of games people stick with them, they grow a loyalty. Same goes for consoles, football teams, cars, whatever.

Also upon reading this thread, it's evident Squeeks pissing in the wind trying to tell you guys there are other RPG's. Even after all he brought to the table in this debate it's clearly proven once again, that Final Fantasy fanboys (speacially FFVII fanboys) are the worst kind of fanboys.

FF7 - Revolutionary

You're a FF7 fanboy. Enough said. Anyone who would openly say that game is revolutionary is clearly biased. What was revolutionary about it? It didn't change anything, only opened peoples minds to the RPG scene (and in doing so, holding a special place in their Sephiroth loving hearts forever) because it was popular. So many people are biased towards FF7 and the entire FF series because of these reasons. It did very well, which counts for a lot but it certainly didn't revolutionise anything.

Excuse me? People are ignorant because they stick to certain series of anime? People are ignorant because they don't watch what YOU watch? People are ignorant because they don't share YOUR opinion?

You think people are OBLIGATED to watch the shows you think are good? If I watch one anime in my whole life, enjoy it, and never watch any others because I don't want to, does that make me ignorant? Because I chose I only wanted to watch one anime, and wanted to spend my time doing other things when not watching that particular anime? Am I ignorant now?

You have a lot to learn about people.

Squeek didn't say you were obligated to do anything. He said people who stick to one show or series are being close minded. That's ignorance, brother. Saying "I don't want to watch other shows" is great. Good for you. But you're missing out, you're not seeing the bigger picture, you're narrowing your horizons, you're being ignorant.

[Tokzic]

Re: Final Fantasy XIV

To want what you want for other RPGs, no. To derail other people's conversations about games to make your point, yes. Doing so is placing your opinion above the opinions of the people that like the game.

...What conversation? There was no conversation occurring about FFXIV (because, y'know, all we have to talk about is the trailer) when Squeek came in. There was no derailing at all occurring.

In fact, there's nothing "selfish" about the way Squeek is discussing the topic. As far as you go, however, all you're doing is relentlessly attacking everything Squeek says for some reason and making terrible arguments against things that are very simple to understand (e.g. "since final fantasy sells insanely better than other rpgs, these players ignore other rpgs" "OH MY GOD HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT YOU HAVE NO BASIS OOOOOOOH STATISTICS MAY I SEE A LINK HUH WOW YOU ARE SO SELFISH").

I think you're the one who needs to "get over it".

ps - I like how through all of that, nobody managed to tell me why they like Final Fantasy.

qft

seriously why are you people having such a hard time explaining why you like something

it's not like "taste", you have words, you can use them to describe what you enjoy

You're a FF7 fanboy. Enough said.

qft 2: the two towers