FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

[jimerax]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

Chrono = Square + Enix
FF7 = Square only

Chrono wins

[UtopiaXD]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

1. Chrono and FF7 had different design teams. Also, Chrono was released in March of 95.

2. FF6 was released in April 94. FF7 in Jan 97. Maybe three years to develop for 3D. Ok.

3. FF7 was the 7th in a series. Its battle system isn't as completely original as you think it is.

4. Aside from the battle system, your argument seems completely based on the graphics. Yes, they're great. And?

1. I'm not understanding this point at all... ok 2 different design teams proves what? I realize the same people didnt work on both games if thats what your getting at but that dosn't really say anything.

2.Why are you mentioning FF6 we are talking about chrono trigger here. Chrono trigger was released in 95' and FFVII in 97' so thats 2 years to develop 3D.

3.This point is completely retarted FF2=FF4, FF3=FF6 and FF1 are the only american FF's released prior to FFVII. So three games for the time all with completely different battle systems. Besides the basics like attack, magic but the systems are all different.

4. No my arguement is not all based on graphics, but "Yes, they're great. And? Well and graphics like that were never done before. So yea thats impressive. Especially in an RPG.

[Squeek]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

He mentioned the different design teams because Final Fantasy's creators are not the same as Chrono Trigger's creators. Thus, it WAS three+ years to develop.

Also, the Final Fantasy retrospective. After watching all of the released episodes, I can easily say I'm glad I didn't play FF1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7. Six actually looked like fun though. FF8 and 9 are set to be showcased next week, so hopefully I'll find out more about FF9 which, I hear, is the only other good Final Fantasy game outside of FF6.

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4831.html

These videos also showcase what's new to the RPG world. When they get to FF7, guess what's new? Not much! And they say very soon into the FF7 video that the development time was all about making 3D work. They also say it was in development since FF5's release in Japan.

[zidart]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

watch the retrospective in the collectors edition of final fantasy XII, i think is better and explains what's new in every final fantasy, and of course what is different.

all the final fantasy games are different, but you have to play them all to see by yourself

[CobaltWire]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

He mentioned the different design teams because Final Fantasy's creators are not the same as Chrono Trigger's creators. Thus, it WAS three+ years to develop.

Also, the Final Fantasy retrospective. After watching all of the released episodes, I can easily say I'm glad I didn't play FF1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7. Six actually looked like fun though. FF8 and 9 are set to be showcased next week, so hopefully I'll find out more about FF9 which, I hear, is the only other good Final Fantasy game outside of FF6.

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4831.html

These videos also showcase what's new to the RPG world. When they get to FF7, guess what's new? Not much! And they say very soon into the FF7 video that the development time was all about making 3D work. They also say it was in development since FF5's release in Japan.

I enjoyed FF9 though it felt shorter than the others in the series

[Buttoxin]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

Heh, Chrono Trigger is winning... for now.

[frank34443]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

Final fantasy 7 is the game that allowed America to truly experience the true RPG style. It was also amazing in graphics, sounds, etc back in that time period. Therefore, I believe it was FF7.

[Squeek]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

Uhh, no. Final Fantasy 1, 4, and 6 came out in America before FF7. And those are "fake" RPG styles?

[bluguerrilla]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

Uhh, no. Final Fantasy 1, 4, and 6 came out in America before FF7. And those are "fake" RPG styles?

Yeah seriously. I guess those weeks I spent when I was 7 trying to beat FF1 were all a dream. I never did beat Chaos...

I wish this poll wasn't "do you know what chrono trigger is" vs. "a game a lot of people like for some reason".

[zidart]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

even though 1, 4 and 6 were before 7. final fantasy 7 was the one that made a lot of people go into RPGs.

my first rpgs were final fantasy 7 and legend of dragoon. and they were good enough to make me (and some of my friends) RPG hardcore gamer.

[Squeek]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

That doesn't make it innovative or ground-breaking. It makes it pioneering.

I for one am proud to say I've never played more than an hour of Final Fantasy 7 before hating it enough to never care about it ever again.

I guarantee Pokemon brought more people into RPGs than Final Fantasy 7 did. I know that's what brought me into RPGs.

[zidart]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

well, whatever. still it was great

well i am proud that i killed every weapon and got the 100% of the game

well yeah but pokemon is a different type of RPG (well that means final fantasy 7 was my second RPG after all)

[Buttoxin]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

That doesn't make it innovative or ground-breaking. It makes it pioneering.

I for one am proud to say I've never played more than an hour of Final Fantasy 7 before hating it enough to never care about it ever again.

I guarantee Pokemon brought more people into RPGs than Final Fantasy 7 did. I know that's what brought me into RPGs.

Yep, enough said.

[UtopiaXD]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

He mentioned the different design teams because Final Fantasy's creators are not the same as Chrono Trigger's creators. Thus, it WAS three+ years to develop.

Also, the Final Fantasy retrospective. After watching all of the released episodes, I can easily say I'm glad I didn't play FF1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7. Six actually looked like fun though. FF8 and 9 are set to be showcased next week, so hopefully I'll find out more about FF9 which, I hear, is the only other good Final Fantasy game outside of FF6.

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/4831.html

These videos also showcase what's new to the RPG world. When they get to FF7, guess what's new? Not much! And they say very soon into the FF7 video that the development time was all about making 3D work. They also say it was in development since FF5's release in Japan.

FF9 is an awesome game, you should try it! The took along time to develop yes, and thats when it was released it was ground breaking. The graphics were really something else for its time. The game has alot of merit though as far as story coming up with ideas that they had never touched apon before.

[evilbutterfly]

Re: FF7 or Crono Trigger? Which was more ground breaking?

Making something have better graphics does not make it ground-breaking. Why can't people understand that?

Like I said before, if FF7 really did anything, it was get people into RPGs. And the only reason it accomplished that is because people are dumb enough to think that graphics make something a good game. There are plenty of 2d games that are more innovative than and that I like a lot more than most 3d games. =\