TWG XVI Postgame

[Tasselfoot]

Exactly Talisman... you said things very well. To LD: By the time you figured out Flypie (which, yes... was SO obvious from her post, just like TPS), it didn't matter.

Also, I suspected that is why I didn't die. In the past... you thought the guardian was dead. This game, you had no idea. And yes, I was guarded every single night (I believe).

The wolves played well. Nobody is putting that fact down. The rest of us sucked.

*sigh* I am kicking myself for not following through with my logic, especially on Blah, who I had pegged solid.

[flypie743]

By the time you figured out Flypie (which, yes... was SO obvious from her post, just like TPS), it didn't matter.

Exactly. I knew I was being obvious, but I dunno..it's like the game wasn't getting anywhere so I figured what the hell and posted. I had a strong feeling 2 wolves were left, and it was pretty much over from there.

[HansSky]

You guys are a bunch of jerks. I knew that I had a high risk of dying on night 1, but apparently nobody else did. As for the TWG apocalypse....later. Too tired.

[JurseyRider734]

That sucks. If I wasn't banned, I probably would have brought some kind of interesting stupidity to the game. If you guys picked me as a host, you all would have had fun playing my Lotr style game. Now you guys ruined your chances on me being an awesome host because all my files are gone.

[Tps222]

Or if we played my totally unbalanced towards the humans type game............

I really don't want to see TWG go, but it seems as less and less people are caring about it at all, I agree with Blah, we need some mroe variations, people are getting sick of being green game after game. You pretty much are outside the loop if so. We need a big turnaround to revive this. Sorry if I am sounding pessimistic, but look at this game, most people either didn't care, self voted, 2 posts a day, phantomed, acting dumb, or giving self away in post(me).

Sucks that credit is getting taken away from LD and Blah though, good job.

[Kilgamayan]

There's always going to be greens. People just have to deal with it. aperson was a green and that didn't stop him from trying.

The point of this game was for the greens to use intuition and logic to deduce who the wolves were, not rely on blues. And look at what it showed. You guys caught one wolf, and only because he got seered. Sad state of affairs when so many people stop thinking for themselves and start relying on information from others.

[Tps222]

How about we play manhunt next?

That way we can develop logic and voting patterns.

[stretchypanda]

This is a pretty new occurrence, though. I mean, aside from the obvious fact that there was much less activity. Usually the humans figure the wolves out through their own powers of deduction -- even in games where one wolf (or more) has died but the wolves win anyway -- the first wolf to die (Afro in my game, Jursey in Hans' game, any others?) was pegged through logic.

I'm always very proud of wolves who win even after some of their team falls -- the urge to panic multiplies every time someone mentions your name (or maybe that's just me).

Blah, I should have had you after you apologized for voting for me. Way to catch me off guard. Well played. ; )

[HansSky]

I just want to ask something...

Can I get guarded next time?

[blahblah18]

being a green has nothing to do with not being active in a game. I'm usually a green, and I used to be the forerunner in attacking and searching ad exposing. I just didn't have to do that this game considerin I WAS the wolf. But I mean, all you pansies have to stop looking for exscuses as to why you odn't do jack shit

[JurseyRider734]

Blah, I know you've been busy lately, but you're sounding very hypocritical. The last, what, three games you've been almost completely silent? At least let someone who was posting a lot repremand everyone else on their inactivity. :\

[hydrojakep]

After reading this thread, i hope this isnt the end of twg. I just got done with jtwg and after realising how stupid it was i wanted to move up. Hell i pretty much won jtwgVI alone :\. Jtwg doesnt need to be erased completely, just changed... a lot. The hosts dont really know what they're doing (i'm serious) and the players are really inactive. The raffle idea sounded good at first, but now i'm thinking, how will we get regulars? Instead of abolishing jtwg, just add another twg. Sign ups would be 32 people, and the game is split according to "skill" and all that. That would be a good way to even games out.

[PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR]

ok, my thoughts is not to get rid of jTWG because first timers and beginners (like myself) need a place to learn. Instead, you should make the group smaller like -10 or something just to get a feel of the game.

[HansSky]

I agree with hydro. If you want to abolish jTWG, go ahead. But in replacement, make it a, uh, non-discriminatory game. TWG: Double Trouble, or whatever the hell you want to call it. I wouldn't say split the game according to skill, because that will certainly make the game more interesting.

Raffle idea: I don't like it. The people that are most dedicated to play the game are the people that make the 30 second sign up windows. It would NOT be a good idea to randomly pick, because you'll end up pulling people in who signed up for the hell of it, and won't be great at this whole activity thing.

-Two games at a time, no jTWG.
-Keep the timed sign ups.
-Maybe add in an All Star game every now and then, to maybe make a game to what it usually would be.

Also, I agree with talisman. Chardish, I think you may be overreacting a bit. One game of inactivity does not mean the end of TWG as we know it. Everything was circumstantial, the players that were killed, the way Tass was acting, etc. I think TWG needs a bit of renovation, but nothing major.

[evilbutterfly]

None of the blame for this can be put on me. I still play this game the same laid back way I've always played. I post a whole bunch to defend myself and point out obvious stuff people might have missed and depend on other people to figure it out, because I can't analyze people worth shit. Even if I had survived to the end, I'd probably just be pissed because I was the only one posting. But I never survive to the end, because I won't shut the hell up so the wolves shut me up for them. Assholes.

And I still believe the solution is an AIM TWG. It was attempted before but failed due to nobody being around to play it. I would love to sit on the computer for an hour or two and play a chat-based TWG, especially now that summer is here and I have plenty of time. The only limiting factor is whether or not the wireless will be a complete bitch and let me play or not, and I can always just ask to use mom's computer for a few hours, since it doesn't have as bad a wireless card and is closer to the router.

But really, people are most interested at the beginning of the game, especially when there's little time left in the day to vote. If you had 10-15 minute days where quick decisions had to be made and thoughts thrown out quickly to be analyzed and voted on, it would be a lot more fun. It'd be as close to real life Mafia we could get, given that we're all so far apart. If we could do AIM TWGs often enough, it would be a good arena to try new ideas quickly to see if they're worth doing a drawn-out TWG with.

But may be we do need a short break from TWG. I, personally, hardly ever play TWG anymore since I die all the time. Argh.

Oh, and another suggestion: every once in a while, play in a jTWG, and let jTWG people play in TWG. Being one of the smartest people in a game makes it more exciting, and gives you more of a chance to try out crazy stuff. It also helps the jTWG newbs learn some from the more experienced players (and even more if they get to be in TWG itself). Mixing it up like this will help jTWG people "graduate" to TWG faster, meaning we'll have more people and more interest. It will also spark more interest in the TWGers doing jTWG because they'll be at the top, where only a few of us have been before, and able to manipulate people. You get a whole new perspective on the game when you're in the different playing brackets (top player, middle player, terrible player). We've all been in the bad player phase, pretty much, but getting the experience as middle and top level players in a game makes it more interesting.