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  • alainbryden
    Seen your member
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2003
    • 2873

    #16
    Yes I did, afrobean, and don't blame it on the devil role.

    I put more thought and effort into this game than any every before. I lived and breathed lies every minute I was on aim. I talked to eyespew consistently throughout the game, on and off topic, and I talked to Guido frequently after seeing him.

    I don't want to make this long, because people will not read it. No one has properly summarised the game, allthough no one but blah really knows everything that went on as well as I do. I had to lie to everyone I talked to at one point or another.

    ORDER OF EVENTS
    Stretchy (Mason) - Wolfed
    TPS (Wolf) - Lynched
    aperson (Mason) - Wolfed
    roopert (Mason) - Quit
    Evilbutterfly (Wolf) - Lynched
    HansSky (Psychich) - Wolfed
    Kilgamayan (Human) - Lynched
    Afrobean (Human) - Lynched
    Whorlichan (Guardian) - Wolfed
    Matthew4444(Human) - Instalynched
    GuidoHunter (Human) - Wolfed
    CypherToorima(Wolf) - Instalynched

    Winners: Mead1, Kefit, Eyespewgreekfire, JurseyRider
    Lost by default: alainbryden



    TPS - Your strategy was all too good. As the Devil, I had to try to identify the wolves, just like any other human, but then I had to save them. You are 100% right. What you did is something that a wolf would never do, and that's why I led the lynch on towards you. Because of the way you acted, I saw it at exactly the level you wanted everyone else to see it. I thought you were a human acting retarded, and couldn't possibly be a wolf, so I got you lynched. It I had been a human, I would have saved you for the same reasons I got you lynched as a wolf. So you had a great Idea, and I'm sorry that I bought into thinking you were human all too well.


    Evilbutterfy - It is a terrible shame you got lynched. All the right people were in the wrong place when the voting closed. My plan to make you look innocent, allthough seem disconnected from you should eyespew announce what he saw, would have worked fine. I had convinced eyespew that we should let EB live a day, while we gained trust from other humans so that they didn't think we were the wolves. Alas, EB got lynched when I hadn't intended him too. This was the first butchering of my game plan.


    Eyespew - I want to thankyou for your undying trust in me. I collected all the conversations when you said you trusted me 100%. I have 3 of them. The reason I didn't kill you the whole game was because you were so easy to convince to do what I needed, and having the seer, whom everybody trusts, trust you completely, is a huge boost. Ironically, you won the game because the wolves found you so useful. I think it's funny that even after Cypher admitted to being a wolf (kinda a mistake on his part) you still thought that I was human, and that he had infact tricked me :P. Don't worry about it man, you won, who cares how you got there, right? Even thought the past week I've used you shamelessly, I think we're better buds for it :P


    HansSky - You trusted me too. You never really got the chance to figure me out, but I'd like to think you wouldn't I'm glad cypher killed you, that's exactly what I wanted. Without you to confirm what eyespew said, I could use that for ammo later to try and get him lynched. That never got off the ground, but that's another story. Either way, I never felt comfortable with having two special roles in contact, it was either him or you, and since evilbutterfly died, it had to be you. If he had lived it would have been eyespew. I enjoyed talking with you while you were in the game and see you next time.


    JurseyRider - I have to mention you, just because I worked with you alot, and put alot of effort into defending you. If anyone is wondering why, well at first I thought Jursey might be a wolf, but even when knowing otherwise, I found her trustworth and thus useful, especially when I went for the unheard of instalynch 10 minutes into the day against Matthew. It's ironic that against the will of the majority of the humans, I as the devil kept you alive for the game win. Good game.


    Afrobean - I'm surprised how easily everyone went for you as well, but you did have a somewhat distant disposition in the game, which is what influenced me to make you my next target for a fake lynching. If I had been human, though, I would have had room to defend you. You didn't mess up as bad as people say.


    Whorlichan - You played the game great. Only reason we figured you out was because combined with my seeings, and the fact Guido told me that he was talking to the guardian, I made a list of all people and narrowed it down to you, mead, and matthew. Guido told me upfront he wasn't talking to mead. Matthew wasn't online. I told guido not to tell me who the guardian was, precisely so that when you died the following day, they wouldn't accuse me of being the one that leaked it to the wolves. It would have made it easier for me to lynch eyespew, had I had the time on the last day to do so.


    At this point, the game was getting more and more constricted. The choices for what I could do were getting more and more constricted. My favorite point in the whole game was when I convinced everyone to vote off matthew4444 all at once. It was beautiful having so much power. I had 5 people, who were watching the game come to me and say "WTF DID YOU JUST DO??!?!" It was simply amazing. I practically vigilanted him out of the game.


    GuidoHunter Oh man. It was a fun game eh? You know you had to die. I even hinted it to you in our conversations. You were next, you didn't have much hope. We had some good talkes, I had to save my ass after a few slip ups. I could sense you didn't have such complete faith in me as eyespew, so I was more careful, and really thought ahead of myself when talking to you. You played a good game, and if you had just been a little less quick to follow my lynch Matt idea, you could have figured cypher out and finished the game. My plan after you died was to setup eyespew, but I needed alot of time and thought to start this. Unfortunately, he gave himself away before I could set in motion my final masterplan for the win.


    CypherToorima - The last one to go. Goodness gracious it was tight. We almost pulled through but eyespew got you to admit that you were the wolf before you knew what was going on. It's a shame, It was going to come down to whether everyone beleived eyespew or me. I think I could have pulled it off, but he made the first move against you, because I wasn't around, and sadly that was out demise. I think you played well, you kept a good quiet position in the game, and let me work behind the scenes and manipulate the rest of the game. You're best accomplishment was looking human - you did very well there. You made my job much easier. It was a pleasure working with you, and I lookforward to you hosting the next TWG.



    The game is over. It was close. I should have been quicker to act, and then I might have pulled it off. Congradulations to this team for what I feel was the most interesting TWG ever. The devil idea was great (especially the idea to make me the devil) and we played the longest lasting TWG in FFR history so far. Good job to everyone, even those I didn't mention, and see you next game.
    ~NEIGH

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    • HansSky
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2003
      • 1925

      #17
      First of all, Afro, I after that chat episode, I was convinced that she was human. There is no such thing as a wolf that doesn't know what he's doing. Because they ALWAYS GET HELP. They will always get help from their fellow, elite teammates. She wasn't getting any help. That's what I was trying to beat into your heads.

      Oh, and there is a reason why I said nothing about my intuition this game. A few, actually. But the first is because my first and strongest intuition had nothing to do with a wolf. It was with a mason. I had an incredibly strong feeling that stretchy was a mason. The sense I try to make out of this, is that I needed to find some type of an alliance, because of my blue role. And when we were talking in the chat, "there must be at least one wolf in here, masons too, etc.". I had the strongest urge to IM her and say, "yeah, and I think one of the masons is you." But I didn't, and alas, she died. :-\

      So, again, +1 intuition.

      On a different subject, I think alain played amazingly well this game. He had me and eyespew duped from day 1. But he didn't really help himself by helping with the lynching of TWO WOLVES. I really was convinced he was human. Even when eyespew ended up pinning Cypher, ending the game, I told him alain was the devil. He was like WHAT?! Although, I think if somebody had an open mind about it, they would have been able to put the pieces together eventually. But regardless, fantastic playing, alain.


      I want to end this with a suggestion. I suggest that we make sure that NOBODY plays a TWG without playing a jTWG beforehand. See: Matt and mead. They really were the typical noobs that played and made stupid decisions. I think we should enforce this, because by now, we will always have enough people to play a TWG.
      hi

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      • CypherToorima
        Boss of all bosses
        • Jul 2003
        • 2452

        #18
        "Cypher admitted to being a wolf (kinda a mistake on his part)"
        It wasn't just kind of a mistake. It was a huge mistake. Oh well, eyespew got the better of me, and that's all that matters in the end. This was quite possibly one of the funnest games I've played.
        I'm a figantic gaggot

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        • Kilgamayan
          Super Scooter Happy
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Feb 2003
          • 6583

          #19
          WHO SAID ALAIN

          WHO SAID ALAIN

          YEAH THAT'S RIGHT

          WAY TO GO AFRO

          WAY TO GO WHORLI

          WAY TO GO GUIDO

          HA

          HA

          HA

          HA








          HA

          Okay, I'm done.
          I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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          • evilbutterfly
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2003
            • 5784

            #20
            People say I acted different, and I know I did. Like I said, I didn't really care about this game, which is odd because I looked forward to being a wolf. Now I just want 40 days to go by so Chardish can come back and we can do Infiltration.

            Oh and guys, please let me live past Day 2. Other than my 2 wins (I think it's 2...) and Infiltration, I have always died Day 2 or before. Why can't you guys let me stay alive? I don't do anything important when I'm around, so kill of the better people first :P.
            So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

            In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

            So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
            And I write the blog for their website.

            Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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            • blahblah18
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2004
              • 1662

              #21
              But on the other hand, aperson was awesome, as I knew he would be...
              Also, Alain, you left out Kefit, and I'd say he was the human's best resource. He basically saw throguh everything, was dead right on all his reads, and lead strong discussions on AIM...
              but for now... postCount++

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              • stretchypanda
                shock me shock me
                • Sep 2004
                • 4123

                #22
                Cypher, when I realized you were in the game, I remember telling myself to keep an eye on you (even though I was already dead), and then you dropped off the face of the TWG planet and I forgot you were in the game, so when EB told me you were the third wolf I was blown away.

                I'm not sure if that's a positive comment or not.

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                • alainbryden
                  Seen your member
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2873

                  #23
                  You're right blah, I'm surprised I never found opportunity to kill kefit earlier. KEfit, yhou should know that in all my plans, the first person that came to mind as figuring me out was always you. You're a very good player, you did great this game, and I'm sure that if you had gotten to be around any more, you would have tagged me or cypher.

                  Kilga, yeah, you figured it all out. That's why I had you killed :P
                  ~NEIGH

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                  • Kilgamayan
                    Super Scooter Happy
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6583

                    #24
                    My only regret in death is that mead survived to win the game.

                    There's very little justice in this world.
                    I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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                    • deltro300111
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1014

                      #25
                      Ok, off topic question,

                      Would anyone be opposed to me attempting to join the next TWG?

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                      • alainbryden
                        Seen your member
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2873

                        #26
                        I wouldn't mind Deltro joining. He's very much against ddrruler and that in and of itself is a strong display of intelligence.
                        ~NEIGH

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                        • Afrobean
                          Admiral in the Red Army
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 13262

                          #27
                          Just to clarify, I have nothing against Alain or Cypher. I see that it was their job to lynch humans, and they did a great job of it... after Day 2 at least. Now, when I say "those bastards lynched me" I don't mean Alain and Cypher. I mean those humans who felt the need to bandwagon onto me with very poor logic.

                          Also, about the devil thing: What I meant was that the wolves already have an advantage by killing someone every night. They don't need a seer type role working for them. Also, don't say that masons even it out, because masons are useless more than they are helpful. I'd rather have just 3 wolves, a seer, a guardian, and maybe a psychic, than any sort of game involving the devil.

                          Oh yea, we did something I was sure we wouldn't do. We got a wolf on day 1. Good one humans.

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                          • Tps222
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 6169

                            #28
                            Irony eh, I kept saying that we never get a wolf on day 1, and I, being a wolf, get lynched. Great played game by all, next week's should be fun.

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                            • Kilgamayan
                              Super Scooter Happy
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6583

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Afrobean
                              Just to clarify, I have nothing against Alain or Cypher. I see that it was their job to lynch humans, and they did a great job of it... after Day 2 at least. Now, when I say "those bastards lynched me" I don't mean Alain and Cypher. I mean those humans who felt the need to bandwagon onto me with very poor logic.
                              Karmic retribution, neigh?

                              lol bad pun
                              I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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                              • Tasselfoot
                                Retired BOSS
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 25185

                                #30
                                Question... why didn't y'all kill eyespew. There was 0% chance of the wolves winning with him alive. At the end, there was only Jurs and Cypher left unseered. So, seer one, if they are the wolf, gg. If they aren't the wolf, the other is, gg.

                                Now, I understand having to kill off Whorli on Night 5, as she was guarding eyespew. But, why take out Guido on Night 6 when you KNOW you can kill the seer?!? If you had killed eyespew night 6, you at least have SOME chance of winning, probably alot, as everyone trusted Alain (cept Guido). That is how I see it. Never pass up an opportunity to kill the most important person for the other team.

                                I can't wait for twg11.
                                RIP

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