TWG V Postgame Analysis

[Squeek]

Tass, it couldn't just be that you accessed Whorli's PMs. That would have gained you nothing. Instead, it became obvious to you VERY quickly who was who on Day 4. Something must have happened and, from your post, it was obviously something to do with the PMs.

~Squeek

All dead people can (and do) talk to me. Since I don't play, it's a useful way to at least try to gain some insight as to what happened. I keep up with the thread all the time and know what's going on.

[Afrobean]

Evilbutterfly and Afro - both being n00bs to the game, they SSed their PMs and sent them to each other. shortly after, they realized from others that that was obviously wrong, and felt bad about it. they now know better.

Yes, I didn't know it was wrong, but how could I? It's not in any written rules, is it?

That's why I propose that someone writes up all these little things that we shouldn't be allowed to do. Also, we could make it so that that would be something that would have to be read before signing up for the next games.

Also, Tass, how'd you find out?

And about all this other sharing passwords jazz:
It's really not that big of a thing. My understanding is that Whorli trusted Tass enough to share their password. However, I do feel that this is one of the things that should be added to an official list of rules for things to not do in the future.

PS can you guys cut down on the late night posting? I have to go to bed at 10:00 and I can't stay up later. Also, the next time I get to come on is the next day after school. I came back to the forums with 5 pages of after game to go through.

[Kilgamayan]

Evilbutterfly and Afro - both being n00bs to the game, they SSed their PMs and sent them to each other. shortly after, they realized from others that that was obviously wrong, and felt bad about it. they now know better.

Yes, I didn't know it was wrong, but how could I? It's not in any written rules, is it?

Actually, it is.

Sadly Loog has since taken down his TWG Rules page, but if you want to go by the original rules, in the RL game the rules do say it's illegal to flip your role card before you die.

[Tasselfoot]

not our fault Afro....

and squeek... the reason everything came out all of a sudden on day 4 is because alain was killed on day 3. so, after he was found out, i went and re-read the entire thread... plus, there were 10 players. i was human, whorli was human, LD was human, EB and Afro were human, and roopert was the guardian. that left 4 people. guido, sleepless, cypher, snapps. and, after re-reading the entire thread, it was obvious that the 2 wolves were guido and sleepless.

so, yea... i knew whorli was human from her PM. the rest was some trust and some logic.


PS - afro, if she is trusting enough to sleep with me, live with me for 3 months, and now transfer schools and move 3000 miles to be closer to me... then yea, she trusts me with her password. same as she knows mine.

EDIT: from day 2 i had sleepless in my sights as a wolf... guido didn't come to me until after alain was pegged.

[Afrobean]

Evilbutterfly and Afro - both being n00bs to the game, they SSed their PMs and sent them to each other. shortly after, they realized from others that that was obviously wrong, and felt bad about it. they now know better.

Yes, I didn't know it was wrong, but how could I? It's not in any written rules, is it?

Actually, it is.

Sadly Loog has since taken down his TWG Rules page, but if you want to go by the original rules, in the RL game the rules do say it's illegal to flip your role card before you die.

I had no idea this was a real life thing. Is it like a board game or something?

PS I still think someone should type up a list of rules for the FFR forums. That way, what happened with me wouldn't happen again.

[Kilgamayan]

It's a very real thing.

http://www.eblong.com/zarf/werewolf.html

[evilbutterfly]

Well, along with the TWG sticky there should be a TWG Rules sticky. When I first thought of signing up, I had to dig through a few past TWG to figure out what each role did, and nowhere did it have any rules about cheating and the like.

[alainbryden]

Way to sneak in a brag that you had sex with your girlfriend there tass

[blahblah18]

that is the site for mafia... aka Werewolf
http://www.princeton.edu/~mafia/

tons of variations too

[Tasselfoot]

not really a brag alain... its a way of life.

[evilbutterfly]

It's a very real thing.

http://www.eblong.com/zarf/werewolf.html

It says in the real life version that when you die you flip over your card when you die. Perhaps if we got rid of the seer role and did that it would balance out?

[sleeplessdragn]

tass, i had no idea that any of this had occured. you must admit that there are certain unspoken rules that are generally accepted to be true. if there were not, then why didnt you or chardish simply IP ban suspected wolves and say that they had screwed up elsewhere in the forum, or threatened you over AIM and make up an AIM conversation? or edit everyone else's posts to make them say stuff as you wish?

EDIT: sp

[Tasselfoot]

um... because thats cheating... and, mods don't have the ability to ban. it would also be abusing my powers as a mod. which i haven't done in any fashion... i don't get where you feel that my being a mod factored on any of this at all.

[sleeplessdragn]

now wat is it that makes wat i said cheating to you now? you had whorli's pw, which is something more then anyone else in this game. as a mod you have more power then anyone else in this game (aside from other mods). as a mod you dont mod abuse, but you can because its in your power (kind of). you did not need to look at whorli's account, but you abused the knowledge anyways.

[whorlichan]

I will not defend Tass--I wasn't happy that he looked at my PM. In fact, I almost thought I hadn't gotten one at all because I couldn't find it (it was in my Savebox). I was upset about it, but I realized it really wasn't in the rules, and even though it wasn't in the spirit of the game, he couldn't do it to anyone else since he doesn't know anyone's password. He's not as good at hacking as he thinks. So it wasn't that big of a deal to me. (He offered to let me look at his, which I could have done at anytime since I know his passwords as well--I declined). I have since changed my password (for this site only--I know he would never dare to go into my email or anything important because he values his dangly bits where they are).

Besides all that--I think the wolves played this one really well until Alain screwed up with the fake seer bit. Guido had me going the entire time, and sleepless was just being sleepless, so no suspicions at all except what Tass kept nudging on.

Sidenote: Sex with me is apparently a way of life I think I deserve a gold star or something.