TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

do you recall any instance where a wolf team (that did not involve you) performed a nightkill in order to frame someone, zenith?

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Sidenote: my work day is a bit rough so i'll be scarce till i'm home.

I'd like to jump on the ship of critiquing you for it but I feel I don't get to. For obvious reasons, and that contextually I understand your intention / would use it for lack of a more fronted term.

In hindsight I should've taken the extra minute to reread what I had typed before shipping it, but I was really just thinking too hard about why she died, and sunfan explained it well earlier but it's more than likely just a bad way to spend my time here

Also bear in mind again she was my #1 town and losing that d1 kinda blows.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

TL;DR for people who are skimming and miss my raeko iso:

Xel looks a little sus but also looks like a potential frame
Haku looks dummy sus

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

zenith I might need you to explain the misspeak (your wording) more clearly

#676 and #685 have very different lines of thought to me

like I guess I'm more curious at this point what the heck you were talking about
idk that I can reasonably conclude it is scummy, I just don't know what you mean, but in case I can conclude something from it (and because it'll bug me until you do)
please try to explain further

also if u could like
explain why u keep voting me beyond "vengeance"
that'd be rad

doesn't Nagito have a thing against vengeance? no one fact check this

I never meant to type PR in my post there, mentally as I was typing that I was racking my brain on why raeko would die there and I asked myself if I missed a soft somewhere and I want to say that's why I had PR on the mind.

In hindsight there's a gaping hole in my foot, but I'll take it in stride as it's not going to stop me from solving and continuing forward lol.

Vengeance is a fancy word for not knowing who to vote because all I did was basically focus on building a town circle last phase so I don't have any concrete wolf feelings (though, after Iso'ing Raeko I am now suspicious) and I still need my lick back for your play against me last game. Hold that vote homie
not anymore tho I need my vote

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

star I think something broke in your attempted formatting of #243
what are you trying to say on shado and hatred

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

So looking through Raeko's iso:

I secretly want to vote someone in the bottom 5 posters at EoD just because it would be so easy to coast this game and wait for town to self-destruct.

Don't like this post nope nope nope

Checked around a couple pages around these two posts and believe this is the only direct comment on what Haku said here, and rereading it, it's crazy it is the only comment about that post. It's beyond an anti-town mindset from the very beginning; an immediate outed distrust in town, and Raeko is the only one to have apparently noticed this (I didn't even notice this, clearly).

huh?? Am I missing something? AFAIK the only direct interaction I've had with Ben was at the beginning of the game talking about floats... where did I town read him?? And you want to see my flip because of this phantom interaction????

I really don't understand this post at all and tbh the vibes are off Xel plz explain yourself

This is Raeko's first vote, and it's because Xel stated he wanted to see either Ben or Raeko flip (awfully coincidental we now have both of these flips) for reasons he couldn't articulate at the time. Why I'm noting this particular quote here is because I'm actually confused about her game plan during this interaction. She was asked about committing to suspicion against Haku for the aformentioned quotes/posts, answered with she was in fact suspicious of him due to his posts, but did not vote him during the interim between both interactions. It feels a bit odd, but it also tells me that she thought what Xel said was worse than Haku's sabotaging thoughts. [Post-Edit] Seems like Star had commented on why Raeko didn't vote during the interim either and it's like I thought, she did think whatever Xel said and felt was way worse than Haku's earlier posts. Xel and Raeko also did later discuss this interaction a little and he was able to convey what he couldn't articulate earlier, but she still doesn't move her vote until later.

I just want to give bug more time to play, they've been busy and if they are a wolf it'll be their first time and I'm sure they will flounder at some point later during the game

Was an insane amount of trust to put into the game during d0. To me this puts a giant sign over bug's iso saying "READ ME".

I still don't feel great about Xel, even though he backtracked right away his accusation against me/ben seems like the sort of mistake a wolf would make when trying to connect players from the player list and grasping onto interactions. It's possible Xel truly misremembered but idk I gotta think about what is more likely and I think it's slightly more toward wolf

STILL didn't move vote at the point of this post, but it is good insight on where her mind was at and just like above with bug, it makes me feel like Xel's worth the iso time too. I also feel it's worth it for me to spend my energy continuing where Raeko left off; operating on my meta read she was my lock town in my circle and during this iso I'm actually seeing some of what she was seeing and feeling like her suspicions have some weight to them.

I would prefer Star over Ben and Botchi is still too neutral for me to make a decision on

Xel or Star would be my top 2 picks for today but it doesn't seem like anybody else is down for Xel

Okay so by this point, she's still voting for Xel, and now we know her lynch pool and her order of importance. I feel like by this point in the game, she's conceded the thought of Haku being suspicious and has explained it by Haku doing Haku and moved on from that.

I can kinda see what you're saying about Botchi's energy vs last game but I think last game was also a unique situation, he was replacing into a slank slot and had an incentive to revitalize the game. But I do see what you're saying there is a difference

my third pick is probably backpack but I think that's a bad idea in terms of flip/info and also it's mainly due to my paranoia. If Backpack was a different player but saying the exact same things I probably wouldn't want to kill him so that tells me probably don't do that (at least right now)

So it's between Xel/Star/DBP. This was just under an hour before EoD.

if nobody is down to go for Xel I will switch my vote to Star

I just don't feel the towniness that I would expect from Star, I got weird vibes from a few posts and I want to trust my initial feelings without overthinking things too hard

And this is where she finally swaps her Xel vote because at this point the vote is between Star and Benguin, but it seemed like she was taking her Xel suspicion to the grave so that's going to be an iso sesh. Firstly though, I will be iso'ing Haku first.

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

I'm isoing star
star probably genuinely predicted the entire phase in the last paragraph of post #43

if one of freezin/shado ends up being a wolf, I'm kind of in awe of how right star would have been for it.

our good times turned to bad, like

star
you weren't even here
how the fuck did you know
I'm genuinely mixed up over this

[XelNya]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Nah, I fully intended to mention a PR in a PR-less game.



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Clearly fucking misspoke the wrong term/word there.

Sidenote: my work day is a bit rough so i'll be scarce till i'm home.

I'd like to jump on the ship of critiquing you for it but I feel I don't get to. For obvious reasons, and that contextually I understand your intention / would use it for lack of a more fronted term.

Also I recall tunneling you a lot, and am trying to not.

Dbps reentry is jarringly bad, and I think sunfan is a tad lost in his feels over it

I cannot perscribe a reason as to why [dbp] specifically would find a reason to be that kind of theatrical, but im open to being wrong here

Star's long post is good, and am already having the similar vibe I got yesterday on it

Botchi self explaining playstyle is null but I get where they're coming from.

Am a bit iffy elsewhere, but my time's a bit limited so these are more flowing thoughts than solid ones

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

this is a shower thought
I wonder if the reason why this game has felt hard and more cloudy (not knowing who top town is) is because FFR hasn't had a 13 player game in a while

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

zenith I might need you to explain the misspeak (your wording) more clearly

#676 and #685 have very different lines of thought to me

like I guess I'm more curious at this point what the heck you were talking about
idk that I can reasonably conclude it is scummy, I just don't know what you mean, but in case I can conclude something from it (and because it'll bug me until you do)
please try to explain further

also if u could like
explain why u keep voting me beyond "vengeance"
that'd be rad

doesn't Nagito have a thing against vengeance? no one fact check this

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

i hate that im taking time to even say this. does it actually help anyone?

yes

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

explain this please sunfan, as well as anyone else who thinks this is right.

what does my flip do for you sunfan? given my amount of activity and my posts and my meta i guess

its literally the first phase, and i was far from super active, so..what gives?

and freezin, you belive in sunfan strongly enough from d0 to parrot his votes????

I know you don't mean to do this if you're a villager, but this is a loaded question, or one that has a supposition different from mine

I am not after information related to flips. I, frankly, think it is a very bad way to try and play the game, ESPECIALLY on d0. Wolves do whatever they can to stop information from making sense based on flips, especially on FFR

I wanted to kill you (and still kind of do) because I thought you were scummy, and that made me think you would flip red, and that's kind of the beginning and end of it.

This post and the one before it does help me, where you're talking to me specifically. That wasn't really present the way I wanted before. When you thought I had my vote on you last game when you replaced in, you were very clearly taken aback, and your reactions haven't been rising to that level this game, that was probably the biggest reason why

and inactivity is and probably always will be a reason *for* me to vote someone, not a reason against

if you're town, we can work on getting there
as I said before, you are not currently my top kill so
there is that

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

the sun fan

in the words of Matrix man, stop trying to hit me and hit me

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

so did you misspeak or not? what even is this

Nah, I fully intended to mention a PR in a PR-less game.



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Clearly fucking misspoke the wrong term/word there.

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Yo, still catching up on this most recent page of stuff, but I just wanted to say poor raeko man. It's so out of left field that I'm fairly confident someone thought they got a PR read and went for it so I'm sure we can find something like that in her iso. I know I forgot to breadcrumb a little before EoD so I'm interested to see if she left some form of legacy in her near-eod posts.

I'm sure people have already commented on this
what the fuck