TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

[MixMasterLar]

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Other then do a massive mutiquote post that I don't have the time for let me clear a few things up

@Shado: all of them? Like his entire progression on me.

I am scum reading Roundbox for much more then him missing the soft.

TownBox could push after seeing a soft if I'm his top wolf, but read progression of his post EoD. Also remember that he ADMITS that me pointing out the post is more of a hardclaim so from Townbox's Point of View there he is still doing with a pretty solid cop claim and choices to keep his vote until I just out right say it, in which it's too obviously antitownto push. I do not buy this world

I do not feel good about Yosh defending Roundbox in this manner.

I think Antori is probably wolf because I think wolfAntoriis still inexperience at the game to believe that he can vote an unCC'd Town there and not look like scum.

I do not think Antori was aware that there could be more then one cop, as he probably would have said so doing his case. His point of view: there is 1 cop and he is unCC'd

I don't think Haku claims here before serious massclaom pressure as wolf. He is the one claim I will believe in right now no further questions

you glanced over my post but didn't answer my "who are your wolf team suspects" question, dont blame me if i suspect you even more

No actually I will blame you. And trust me, you didn't want to see me answer that when I first read it.

Round/Antori/tbd after i see a few more reactions.
Before massclaim i would have said possibly Yosh but let's see some flips before I say that.

mml, can you run me through why you chose to peek xel again?

Because he would be the hardest to read for me, probably would have ghosted this entire phase if alive, and I was pretty confident he wouldn't be NK'd. Oops.

Everyone else would have been much easier to solve.

I broke my never soft rule because I think it's lame now
Here's my codified "I blocked him n1" post

You know, for someone who whined and whined about my soft being too hard to see (which features a fictional police officer, a video of said fictional police officer in a fucking Police Story parody, and invisible text saying that I have a lot in common with Lei, aside from the fact that we have nothing in common the more you think about it) you sure have presented me with a weak ass soft. Even reading that as a soft it doesn't have any new context then you just filling space.

In what game has anyone EVER softed a block anyway? Is there a precedent for that? If there isn't, why did you decide to break tradition and do so now? Why did you wait until a massclaim was underway instead of claiming and using your soft when I pressured you, instead of appeal to emotions?

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

yeah it's just how much do i mind the downside

if he flips town then shado and i know for sure that a cop is fake. it doesn't let me conclude anything about shado's alignment but it is what we both can do with the most mechanical confidence

at least in that case it's probably not lylo tomorrow because sk?

[Daikyi]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

if we're ruling out serial killer setups right now, antori is the best lynch lmao

otherwise with CC CC B(B) T we sit on an odd parity of Ts, which gives serial killers in the setups. Removing any of the other claims will still keep the # of Ts odd

[inDheart]

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and in TTTT it's antori, a cop and one of the vts

so lynching antori gives us odd/even, and if even, a pointer of what to do next

that doesn't seem too bad

thinking ahead to night actions rn, i don't think they're very plannable so they may not be worth talking about? i came up with a plan but it's only very useful for TT given what the wolves have

[inDheart]

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in CC{BB,CC}TTT

4) MixMasterLar full cop?
11) Hakulyte full cop?

2) roundbox full roleblocker?
10) Antori 1-shot roleblocker?

1) Daikyi vt seered green by haku?
5) Gradiant vt seered green by mml?
7) inDheart vt
12) mellonxcollie vt seered green by haku?
13) ShadoWolfe vt

TTT requires either both blockers or both cops to be real, so i think this is still technically possible

when i voted i was jumping maybe a little too far ahead on antori lynch just being a good diagnostic idea. for this setup it tells us whether this is CC or BB, and if it's BB then you know roundbox is good and you have to lynch a cop

in that scenario shado is not lock scum, just unpeeked, and there are 2 people with inv immunity anyway so it's kind of a crapshoot mechanically

ruling out TTTTT seems kinda safe but it'd be hilarious if that's what the game was and either there are 2 fake cops or one's real but every single antitown player fakeclaimed. in that setup they'd eventually have to deal with each other in the night anyway

in TT the wolves are antori, shado and one of the green checks always

[inDheart]

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unvote

i may have forgotten something

[inDheart]

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actually the setup cannot be single-T either, because there are literally not enough wolves left in the game, because shado and i are not both wolves

pretty sure that means antori always flips wolf and lolmeforever

the thought chain i'm going down is whether shado is required to be a wolf in all setups fmpov

[roundbox]

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antori!wolf = gradiant probably not godfather of team

[inDheart]

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i have a hard time seeing any of those three on a team with shado just based off memory, but they'd have the right role to bus

raeko nearly ran him up with me close to deadline so maybe not her

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

eh, there are a few reasons there would be a blocked kill in the setup actually even without stacks

SK is vested + 2 roleblocks happened

but on 2 nights?

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

2) roundbox full roleblocker
4) MixMasterLar full cop
10) Antori 1-shot roleblocker
11) Hakulyte full cop

1) Daikyi vt seered green by haku
5) Gradiant vt seered green by mml
7) inDheart vt
12) mellonxcollie vt seered green by haku
13) ShadoWolfe vt

setup seems unlikely single T but that's what the claims would indicate
it is never 0T and so the godfather has likely claimed vt

antori being fake is the only chance for a TT setup, so in a no SK world he is the lynch, and then shado is lock wolf fmpov and the last is the green checked godfather

a cop being fake means SK exists and is hidden unless antori is also fake

is there a chance of 2 fake claims?

[roundbox]

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I haven't read thread but I think I vote antori here because of setup bs

[roundbox]

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.and this is why I have a mental block on gradiant. I haven't seen too much contributions from him today, and it's putting him in the NULL FOR DAYS slot. I need to resolve this

I broke my never soft rule because I think it's lame now
Here's my codified "I blocked him n1" post

[Gradiant]

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neat

[roundbox]

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Oh
I'm full roleblocker

Blocked gradiant n1, daikyi n2