TWG CXXXI - Game of Champions

[choof]

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v if you don't say that blind's post doesn't feel fake you're probably most likely very fucking literally retarded

blind

[blindreper1179]

Re: TWG 131 - Game of Champions

Lynching me is literally going against town, but I understand why you guys would vote me. I'm going to have to go ham tomorrow when I wake up.

[Vendetta21]

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[blindreper1179]

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I'm loving that gif.

[FictionJunction]

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My gut still says manti, followed by V and perhaps jrodd. That's lumping too many -good players- together, though. Will have to reread Zenith's posts to see if there's anything I feel those players may have caught on too that others wouldn't have. Can't assume the seer dying was random unless it doesn't seem Zenith raised blue flags high enough to get killed.

[FictionJunction]

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I'm also looking to jrodd to explain his thoughts on voting patterns last phase now that DBP is dead. We both agreed that DBP dying would help throw some light into who might be suspicious.

DBP was a pretty good anchor but I didn't feel confident he was red so I didn't vote for him. Everyone else did.

[FictionJunction]

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Wow, gg wolves. I didn't even notice the drops zenith was doing.

I'm mad as well, we needed him to not die last night, that is literally the worst case scenario for us.

I guess I tried to hard to pretend to be the blue, and the bait wasn't taking. bad vt game is bad, sorry guys. =/

I don't know if blind thought that was an actual smart move to make as a green but what's cool about a green trying to distract the reds from killing the real blue by pretending to be blue himself is that it sounds great in theory but is hard to defend after the blue dies because it's a such a convenient position for a red to be in.

Reds are in a better position to BS this because there's 0% chance of getting killed at night if the 'distractions are working,' presumably a green throwing fake blue flags will get the reds' attention. Of course, the only draw back is that a seer that is seeing this playing out should recognize that the fake blue flag person should be the first person he seers.

Now that the blue is actually dead, blind is in a convenient red player position - but I don't know that he would've figured out that Zenith was throwing out flags himself. I actually don't know the answer to this question, either. Not yet.

Since wolves can talk at night, it's likely that a smarter red made the call on Zenith and saw a sort of double opportunity in blind:

1) There's the potential narrative that blind is a green trying to help the blue. Now that the seer is dead, this will be hard to push forward but it's unlikely Zenith would have seered blind anyway.

2) If this narrative doesn't go through and blind dies tonight and he is red, this gives reds an opportunity to separate themselves from blind.

[FictionJunction]

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blind dies by the end of the weekend* wow freudian slip, I am red

[blindreper1179]

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Yo, fiction. based on Zenith's post, Manti was his random green check. I wish I noticed that, I would pushed on another target.

As for my hard blue front, I learned in one of my first games that vt should protect the blue(thanks manti) So, I was putting up a front for a bait night kill. I'd rather get NK and not play over the possibility that the blue would die. I tried taking one for the team, and it failed miserably.

[FictionJunction]

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yeah but a green is only useful to the team alive and one cannot expect a green to sac himself if he doesn't know who the blue is first. This game cannot have alliances so I take issue with your selflessness angle because it's more detrimental, especially now that the blue is dead - too convenient.

[FictionJunction]

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I'm willing to assume that if blind is red so is a more veteran player.

[FictionJunction]

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who likely called it on Zenith.

ofc, Zenith may have also been random so

[blindreper1179]

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Yeah, sure, I agree that a green is only useful alive. I don't play normal game expectations. Me sacking myself is probable from me. You're right I didn't know who the blue was, and all I could do was hope they didn't counter claim my bullshit revealing themselves. Regardless of that, I don't care WHO it was, I just knew it wasn't me. In my opinion kills are best RED>GREEN>BLUE so I don't care if I got NK over the blue. I was moreso trying to be a "bodyguard" without actually being a bodyguard.

[FictionJunction]

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don't you understand that 1. there wasn't ever going to be a counterclaim 2. claiming for real on d1 isn't useful to anyone 3. soft-claiming is only good if the seer seers you, which you'd never have a guarantee for and is now not possible because he's dead and 4. chances of you getting killed at night were low, especially now that your own soft-claim was ignored over Zenith's.

And I still haven't gone through Zenith's posts so I don't know if he even soft-claimed properly enough to garner attention. We're just assuming he did in order to consider the possibility that him dying wasn't a random choice.

[FictionJunction]

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you should just stop talking because if you say 'I was trying to help the greens by sacrificing myself (' one more time I am going to lose my mind