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  • StoicRoivaS
    FFR Player
    • May 2006
    • 548

    #31
    Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

    I'd prefer more of a non-traditional twist; something new, but that's just me. Nija's idea towards the end of page 1 sounds fine by me though.
    Like the moon over
    the day, my genius and brawn are
    wasted on these fools. ~Haiku
    -Bowser

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    • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2005
      • 1206

      #32
      Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

      Originally posted by jwcgator
      GAME 1:

      I really want to see a game with more blues in it (with actual powers)

      18 person game

      4 wolves(1 master), 1 wolfsbane, 1 vigilante, 1 seer, 11 humans.

      Wolfsbane cannot protect from vigilante
      If vigilante comes out before he kills someone then he is automatically killed.
      Once the Vigilante kills someone, he turns into a regular human. He is also Seer'd green as the Vigilante.

      Open to suggestions. Also, if this one is picked(revised or not) can someone else host it? I really want to play again lol.
      Which wolfsbane, the one that cannot be wolfed, or the one that guards a non self target from wolfings, and if picks correctly kills a random wolf?


      EDIT:

      I JUST thought of this, and I'm assuming it needs balancing, but look at this:

      16 players
      2 *UNNAMED ROLES* - X for now.
      2 Seers
      4 Wolves

      X - If this player is night killed, a random wolf will also be killed.

      ~

      Balance away.

      Edit again:

      I think if the wolves got one wolf seer or something that would see "Seer" "X" and "Human" (respectively) it would be more balanced.

      Also, this makes for an interesting "is this player X or a seer?" 'Should we kill them?'
      Last edited by DiscoBobbyPARANOiA; 01-21-2007, 10:18 PM.


      Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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      • jwcgator
        RIP ffrtokens
        • May 2005
        • 2221

        #33
        Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

        Originally posted by DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
        Which wolfsbane, the one that cannot be wolfed, or the one that guards a non self target from wolfings, and if picks correctly kills a random wolf?
        Kind that can guard a non self and if picks correctly wolf dies

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        • StoicRoivaS
          FFR Player
          • May 2006
          • 548

          #34
          Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

          Originally posted by DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
          game idea
          2 kamikazes plus 2 seers with a 1:4 wolf ratio? Seems a bit hard for the wolves. I'd go with 1 wolf seer and think that through like suggested (with detailed vision results). I'd like to play this game.
          Like the moon over
          the day, my genius and brawn are
          wasted on these fools. ~Haiku
          -Bowser

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          • Kilgamayan
            Super Scooter Happy
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2003
            • 6583

            #35
            Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

            Originally posted by nijatwo
            What's the superhuman game? I'm not familiar, but I'd be up for hosting it.
            What we just did except the serial killer is actually allied with the humans and wins when they win/loses when they lose.

            The superhuman wouldn't count toward the human population in determining when the wolves can kill him either.
            I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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            • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2005
              • 1206

              #36
              Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

              @kilga: I'd be willing to play the same game we just did, but not without a game intermission at least.

              Edit: I'd play it, I'd just rather not. (sorry if that sounded... asshole-ish)


              Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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              • Kilgamayan
                Super Scooter Happy
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2003
                • 6583

                #37
                Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                I'm not saying we shuld play the same game, I'm saying we should modify it a bit to reflect the happenings after a couple of nights (one wolf + both guardians gone) with the serial killer actually being a human role.
                I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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                • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1206

                  #38
                  Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                  Well, yes, I understand. My concern is that we just played the game you spelled out. Be it what we planned on playing or not. I'd rather play something else and go back to it afterwards.

                  About the game I proposed, I talked to stoic about balancing issues, and here are a couple of ideas:

                  16 players
                  2 Kamikazes
                  2 Seers
                  1 Wolf
                  1 Wolf seer
                  2 Wolf Vigilantes

                  Kamikaze: if night killed will kill a random wolf
                  Wolf seer: Will check one person per night for role, not color. Results come back AFTER the kill for the night has been decided, and in the form of "human" "seer" and "kamikaze"
                  Wolf Vigilante: once per game (during the night phase) can choose to kill one person. If they hit a kamikaze, no wolves are lost in the process and the kamikaze is killed as normal.

                  I think the way I had it was mad slanted towards the humans, so this should balance it out a bit.

                  Another possibility would be to have the seer see "green" "blue" and "red", or take that one step further and see "human" "wolf" "seer" and "kamikaze" Or even one more step and have the seer see exact role.

                  Anything is possible, and I would like to see the game be as balanced as people think possible.

                  On a side note, false reveals will be highly possible in this game, and if two people die in one night it can mean either a vigi or a kamikaze kill.

                  Originally posted by Kilgamayan
                  shuld
                  Brace for impact.


                  Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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                  • iggymatrixcounter
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 1924

                    #39
                    Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                    Ok guys, everyone who keeps putting game ideas out there need to pick one and run with it so people can vote.

                    So far I'm voting for disco 38 (latest game of many roles.)

                    However I would say -1 seer and let the wolf seer get his result the same night he sends it in. But I see how having 4 blues is crucial so I would throw in a fake blue or 2 (person doesn't know he's this role) so wolves won't know if they actually got a real blue or not. It worked pretty good when we were wolves with a similar setup.
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                    • FoJaR
                      The Worst
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2816

                      #40
                      Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                      yeah i like DBP's but i say if you have two seers have one or two red millers. (humans that come up red if seered)

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                      • StoicRoivaS
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2006
                        • 548

                        #41
                        Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                        DBP 38 plus two blue millers (seen by wolf seer) plus two red millers (seen by human seer). Sounds a bit more balanced to me. I think DBP was more interested in playing and Nija in hosting if I recall. He (DBP) had mentioned the possibility of Nija hosting his game idea if Nija was interested. Comment away DBP and Nija so we cam get this game rolling.
                        Like the moon over
                        the day, my genius and brawn are
                        wasted on these fools. ~Haiku
                        -Bowser

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                        • jwcgator
                          RIP ffrtokens
                          • May 2005
                          • 2221

                          #42
                          Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                          DBP 38 with recently stated suggestions

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                          • iggymatrixcounter
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 1924

                            #43
                            Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                            I like the addition of blue and red millers to balance two seers as opposed to just 1 seer and blue millers. (I don't know how many reds there would be but I figure for every true red or blue, you should have an equal or greater number of millers to balance.)

                            But I still want to make sure that the wolf seer gets his result before the kill is sent in.
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                            • talisman
                              Resident Penguin
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • May 2003
                              • 4598

                              #44
                              Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                              ew that would make nights last forever.

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                              • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
                                FFR Player
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 1206

                                #45
                                Re: TWG XLI Hosting Singups

                                I'll host if nija doesn't want to. I don't really care at this point. Hosting right now would be easier than playing, with school and whatnot.


                                Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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