A new beginning for our SM community.

[Shikari]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

Yup, stepmania.com. I think it fits quite well, beucase the site is huge, but only has guests browsing their forums. Besides, I think the SSC dev team supports the idea of making the forums more "user-friendly", so I see no problem. :/

[MixMasterLar]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

oh man stepmania.com

It's been awhile....

[Charlo]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

Makes sense, since people looking for a website about Stepmania will probably try "stepmania.com" first.

[ddr_f4n]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

I'm okay with it because one of the admins or something used to have a Reimu avatar. Dunno if he still has it though.

[nyra]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

Wow, this project looks intense! And, I find it really exciting.

However, I also have a lot of questions. First, when rating the difficulty of songs the first post game a standard for 100 but what about a 1, would a 1 be a Konami beginner difficulty song? I feel that this needs to be elaborated on. MY next question is, would the community re-release all of the packs with the new difficulty system, or would it simply be up to the player to change the rating on their own? I personally think re-releasing would be the better option also recording the average difficulty for every song in the pack. This would make choosing a pack much easier for newer players.

New paragraph to make my post easier to read, sue me. And with a new paragraph a new question: the default Stepmania theme(I use 3.9) does not show difficulties above 12 very well, would we be creating a new theme to go with our new system? A new theme could alienate several users who are looking for a more plug and play experience. However, since we, or rather the people who started this endeavor, are talking to the folks at stepmania.com there is a possibility of having out theme integrated with the default theme. This leads me to another Idea, if we are still using the difficulty setting that determines feet I could see either way to many things being shoe horned at 1 or stuff going above 10 that were previously around 7. A newer player who was familiar with DDR might not want to play anything above 10 feet. So I think it would be easier if our system was separate from the feet but our theme would exclusively use our setting without ruining the sims for players who don't have our theme.

Even tho I just made an argument using them as examples, would this system extend out to the official Konami sims? If not by the time someone responds to this post I will have lost a lot of time because I'm going to go play them, that is if it is alright for me to join in on this project?

My reason for wanting to do this is because in a way I agree with what MizMasterLar said that if we go all the way to 100 now someone is going to come out with a 101. Because, since there is no limit on how fast the song can go there is no limit on how many notes can be put inside a single second, and therefore no limit on how hard a song can be. However, past a certain point the song is impossible. I think that by building our way up in difficulty we can get more respectable ratings. Also I think that if we start with only a baseline of 100 there will be a large gap in difficulty between the 30 to 50 range.

So now, I'm going to go try to come up with a base line for 1. And, just because I love the sound of my typing.

I'm going to proceed along the path of finding the baseline 1 difficulty while assuming a song must be fail-able, on a life difficulty of 4, to receive a rating of 1. I will consider any song that cannot be failed to have no difficulty.

[PlayTrumpet]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

Surprised I didn't see this thread earlier. So... People are rating the difficulties of tons files from tons of pack right now, and stepmania.com is where things are happening?

[nyra]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

Well, after playing through most of my library of Konami songs I think the beginner chart of "Ordinary World" would be a good candidate for the 1 difficulty rating baseline. The chart for this song draws its difficulty from the four short half note bursts throughout the song that get progressively longer, the final burst being a whopping five notes long.

I would like to suggest naming the difficulty we plan to use on sims something other than feet. But, I guess that isn't so important right now.

After reading some more post in this thread, I saw that a few people were talking about separate ratings for pad, keyboard, and solo players. I think we should keep the pad and keyboard file ratings together, after all there are keyboard players who can't beat max 300 and pad players who can clear air. Also, 6 and 8 arrow modes should be rated by people who play them on pad and keyboard.

[Charlo]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

Sorry if I missed this earlier in the thread, but how will the song ratings be organized? Will we just have a separate thread for every simfile ever made, or is there going to be some kind of website where people vote?

*Posting because this thread seems ready to die*

[phe0nixblade]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

Wouldn't hurt to try

ouch it hurts

[MetzgerSM]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

bump might be useful here

[JackDrinksJack]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

so i guess this entire thing is off then?

[aj187]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

I'd hope not, but I haven't been hearing anything about this.

Status report?

(aside from us continuing to work on StepMania 5...)

[00Razor00]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

From what I've heard, the creators of this thread have moderator status on the Stepmania.com forums and are renovating the place for this idea. IMO, they should've made an entirely new forum instead of piggybacking on SM's site which is nearly dead. But oh well.

[macgravel]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

I like this idea. Only thing I don't like is using stepmania.com instead of a new site...

[Jousway]

Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

whats wrong about using stepmania.com instead of a new site