Pulsen

[rushyrulz]

Re: Pulsen

This is getting ridiculous.

Find a community that is interested in Pulsen and maybe you'll get your questions answered. I probably sound like a huge dick at this point because this is frankly pissing me off with the double to quadruple posting and 2 month bump double post extravaganzas.

This community has shown a clear lack of interest with hardly any posts in this thread praising Pulsen, and the majority being skeptical posts. So to answer your questions from the standpoint of practically everyone in this community:

1. Do you want more official (made by us) songs to play in Pulsen?
No idea if you're talking about stepcharts or musical compositions here, but stepmania has more than enough of both, what makes yours any better? The professionally/officially made argument is crap, because there are unprofessional step artists in this community that could probably step circles around your experts. And I don't think rhythm game stepcharting is something you can go pro in.

2. Do you want currently-released packs for SM5 playable in Pulsen?
No thanks, I'm perfectly happy with playing SM5's packs in SM5 like they were intended.

3. Do you want the ability to play your own songs in Pulsen?
Withholding this aspect from Pulsen is the biggest mistake you could possibly make. A good chunk of StepMania users only use it for creating their own content. If that's not possible with Pulsen, StepMania is the clear winner.

4. Do you want to make and release your own packs for Pulsen?
Would these packs only be playable on Pulsen? If so, then absolutely not. The only way the answer to this question would be yes is if the stepping interface is easier than StepMania's and the finished product will work on all platforms.

[Staiain]

Re: Pulsen

Thanks for speaking on everybody's behalf, rushy!

[kaiten123]

Re: Pulsen

only watched the preview video so correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this just a weird looking stepmania build with less features?

[Saturn2888]

Re: Pulsen

cmon man even steppers like lurker can step a chart much better than what i've seen so far...... lol

To better gauge what you don't like, what have you seen so far?

Find a community that is interested in Pulsen and maybe you'll get your questions answered. This community has shown a clear lack of interest with hardly any posts in this thread praising Pulsen, and the majority being skeptical posts.

I believe FFR is interested in Pulsen; this is why people are posting their opinions about the game even if their opinions are completely degrading.

I enjoy finding out what people think and what we can do to make the game better. I’ve gotten so much input and changed so much in the game because of this thread that I keep coming back to ask more questions.

1. Do you want more official (made by us) songs to play in Pulsen?
No idea if you're talking about stepcharts or musical compositions here, but stepmania has more than enough of both, what makes yours any better? The professionally/officially made argument is crap, because there are unprofessional step artists in this community that could probably step circles around your experts. And I don't think rhythm game stepcharting is something you can go pro in.

I’m talking about charts.

What makes our charts better? That’s a good question. Well I can’t say what makes our charts better because I don’t know what I’m comparing them to, but I can tell you my opinion why I believe they’re better than what I’ve seen.

Pulsen has features for charts not in SM5 and any other game. We’re slowly adding more to this list, and we’ve even added these to any old charts that need ‘em.

Most of the songs are customized by musicians for Pulsen. This means the musicians get to play a part in how their song turns out in the game.

We also have a review process. If you’re done charting, it’s not done yet. The chart needs to be playtested and then fixed and playtested many more times until we can say it’s good enough for release. Sometimes effects have to be stripped out because they just didn’t work or didn’t fit the song. Sometimes we need to drop entire charts or just make new ones from scratch. Sometimes the difficulties aren’t balanced and things need to be re-thought to allow for this balance to happen.

I’m not saying the review process doesn’t happen in the community or that people don’t modify the code to add in their own custom features, but overall, this is why I believe our charts are better.

I also agree that saying professionals doesn’t mean higher-quality. All of our charts are made by folks like you and me in the community. These are people have made hundreds of charts already, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re familiar with their work outside of Pulsen.

3. Do you want the ability to play your own songs in Pulsen?
Withholding this aspect from Pulsen is the biggest mistake you could possibly make. A good chunk of StepMania users only use it for creating their own content. If that's not possible with Pulsen, StepMania is the clear winner.

Why do you feel that it’s the biggest mistake to leave out an editor?

4. Do you want to make and release your own packs for Pulsen?
Would these packs only be playable on Pulsen? If so, then absolutely not. The only way the answer to this question would be yes is if the stepping interface is easier than StepMania's and the finished product will work on all platforms.

Are you saying you want to make songs for Pulsen, but have them be backward-compatible with other versions of StepMania, DanceWithIntensity, and PyDance or are you saying you’d like them compatible with any operating system?

only watched the preview video so correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this just a weird looking stepmania build with less features?

Kinda depends on what you watched. I would have to disagree as there are more features in Pulsen than SM5.

This is my opinion since it depends on the features you are looking for. If you’re looking for loading SM files in Pulsen, then it won’t be true. If you’re looking for more available mods, noteskin features, charts with more capabilities, and other things like this, then it would be true.


Thanks for your responses! These have been very helpful, and I look forward to the next ones.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Re: Pulsen

Why do you feel that it’s the biggest mistake to leave out an editor?

No custom content.

Pulsen is dealing with a community that isn't limited when using programs like SM, so by limiting the players to only playing what you feel to provide, then players will just stick to SM where anything and everything is available.

Are you saying you want to make songs for Pulsen, but have them be backward-compatible with other versions of StepMania, DanceWithIntensity, and PyDance or are you saying you’d like them compatible with any operating system?

Other versions of SM most likely.

[00Razor00]

Re: Pulsen

lol

[ddr_f4n]

Re: Pulsen

You say that your charts are better like as if it's an objective statement, when in fact, it's entirely subjective.

Why do you feel that it’s the biggest mistake to leave out an editor?

He just...does this even NEED explaining?

[Saturn2888]

Re: Pulsen

You say that your charts are better like as if it's an objective statement, when in fact, it's entirely subjective.

I agree with you that it’s subjective and thought I stated that pretty clearly. How did you get this impression from what I said?

No custom content.

Pulsen is dealing with a community that isn't limited when using programs like SM, so by limiting the players to only playing what you feel to provide, then players will just stick to SM where anything and everything is available.

He just...does this even NEED explaining?

I wouldn’t be asking would I?

Are you saying that the provided experience isn’t good enough for you?
Or are you saying that even if it was good enough you’d still wanna make your own stuff?

[bmah]

Re: Pulsen

Custom content such as an editor increases the replayability of the game. People like to be creative. If they're limited to just the songs they've been provided, then a more finite line is drawn in terms of replayability.

[Kibblre]

Re: Pulsen

Ok, really. Nobody from FFR will buy Pulsen, plain and simple.

[i love you]

Re: Pulsen

I have to agree with Oni. Why should we bother to play a game like Pulsen (which limits players based on what the developers wants) when you could just download stepmania and basically do whatever you want for free without having to pay a dime for new packs or whatever else?

Just face it, this game is just not going anywhere when you have games like stepmania which is free of charge and has a community where anyone could freely create their own packs and do whatever they want. Pulsen is basically another SM but has a theme, a few new features (which could be easily added to the original SM code), and it costs money. I am sorry but this game is not very convincing and I doubt that anyone here would be dumb enough to buy anything from you guys unless if they wanted to support you guys.

[00Razor00]

Re: Pulsen

maybe they should sell Pulsen on eBay

[who_cares973]

Re: Pulsen

I have to agree with Oni. Why should we bother to play a game like Pulsen (which limits players based on what the developers wants) when you could just download stepmania and basically do whatever you want for free without having to pay a dime for new packs or whatever else?

Just face it, this game is just not going anywhere when you have games like stepmania which is free of charge and has a community where anyone could freely create their own packs and do whatever they want. Pulsen is basically another SM but has a theme, a few new features (which could be easily added to the original SM code), and it costs money. I am sorry but this game is not very convincing and I doubt that anyone here would be dumb enough to buy anything from you guys unless if they wanted to support you guys.

convenience my friend

people would pay for pulsen because everything is already done. no new person to stepmania would even know how to create their own theme. create their own noteskin, code their own new features, and make their own stepfiles. its the same reason people prefer windows or mac over linux. sure you could make with th right know how make linux however you wanted and customize it to fit your exact needs but most people dont know so they stick with windows or mac which has everything done already for them. sure it wont be exactly what you want but for the most part it has everything you need

[ddr_f4n]

Re: Pulsen

maybe they should sell pulsen on ebay

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[ranjiaolanjiao]

Re: Pulsen

To better gauge what you don't like, what have you seen so far?

Well, I'm a veteran Stepmania player. I've played SM for years as did many people here. I think we all have a good idea of what a good SM chart is like.


My references: #kbo


Plus, you guys don't even have solo or 7k, totally your loss man.

To top it off, the files here at FFR (lol) are even better than what I've seen. Don't tell me "professionally" made charts when I've seen people here who've done more than 100 charts and are considered GODS of stepping... i.e Kommisar, who_cares etc.


Can any of your stepartists step a 2 minute file in 20 minutes... with exceptional knowledge of where to place arrows at the right place? I don't think so.

Therefore, I rest my case, I don't consider any of your charts professional. Even though I sound biased as ****, it's only the truth.