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  • foxfire667
    The FFRchiver
    FFR Music Producer
    • Jun 2009
    • 2170

    #121
    Re: Skill Token Suggestion

    Originally posted by qqwref
    Dude, the whole point of interesting skill token requirements is that they do NOT require huge amounts of skill. If you'd have no chance of ever unlocking something unless you're better than I am, you'll have 100 people who go "I could unlock it but boy will it be annoying if I mess up" and 100,000 people who go "this is stupid, I'll never be that good". For the vast majority of people it's not fun or motivating to have a requirement that seems basically unachievable.
    True. Just because it is doable by a few people doesn't mean that it should be suggested for a skill token. Passing is a good idea because it takes minimal skill to PASS the songs in itself...BUT the actual chalenge is the amount of time you are devoting to get the token, like EternuS. Passing Blue noah, Blue Army, Blue Violet, Big Blue, and Blue Rose is 2:06 + 6:36 + 5:35 + 6:00 + 1:50 or 22:07 of straight game play. Would be a good challenge skill token for beginners, and might be alright for the pros as playing those songs aern't exactly boring so it might be fair game for both sides of the coin. Would be REALLY sexy if somehow it was set up so that you HAD to play the songs immediately after eachother...like it loaded those levels one after another and just skipped the stats screens.

    ...maybe options in the engine set up for mods regarding tokens for that...?


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    • MrMagic5239
      FFR Veteran
      • Feb 2007
      • 4096

      #122
      Re: Skill Token Suggestion

      The only problem I see with that time frame is the time it takes to exit back to the song selection screen, pick the song, and for some people, how long it loads.
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      • Elite Ninja
        Kawaii Desu
        Event Staff
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2007
        • 4828

        #123
        Re: Skill Token Suggestion

        Well now that the credit cap is up to 60 we can do a skill token that requires you to get 60 credits on a song . Not a difficult one at all.
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        • Vanilla Mnm
          cavs
          • Dec 2007
          • 3258

          #124
          Re: Skill Token Suggestion

          i think the people that really care about the skill tokens are the people that are everyday players, or players that are somewhat active. most of the people that have signed up for this site barely play, or ever, and couldn't care less about skill tokens.. i don't think we should really worry so much about if only 100 people could get a token or not.

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          • rushyrulz
            Digital Dancing!
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2006
            • 12985

            #125
            Re: Skill Token Suggestion

            Maybe one for 50 too.


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            • Elite Ninja
              Kawaii Desu
              Event Staff
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2007
              • 4828

              #126
              Re: Skill Token Suggestion

              Originally posted by Vanilla Mnm
              i think the people that really care about the skill tokens are the people that are everyday players, or players that are somewhat active. most of the people that have signed up for this site barely play, or ever, and couldn't care less about skill tokens.. i don't think we should really worry so much about if only 100 people could get a token or not.
              False. I wasnt involved in the community at all when I joined like 3 years ago but I was a token lover ever since I first joined. I dont even know how I got involved in the community. First thread I ever posted in was a tournament hosted by Izzy and I got my first AAA on Sonic 1 Final Zone or something. A My friends and my brother also go for them but they are not as good.
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              Best SDG = Fushigi Usagi Milk Tei 8-0-0-3 (101)
              Best Score = do i smile? 3-0-0-3 (100)

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              • iironiic
                D6 FFR Legacy Player
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2009
                • 4342

                #127
                Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                HUR HUR HUR AAA 300 300 times for 3020 v3020

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                • Elite Ninja
                  Kawaii Desu
                  Event Staff
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4828

                  #128
                  Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                  Originally posted by iironiic
                  HUR HUR HUR AAA 300 300 times for 3020 v3020
                  1 person with that unlock right der XD and maybe less.
                  Best AAA = Aballava(?) + Serious Shit (97)
                  Best SDG = Fushigi Usagi Milk Tei 8-0-0-3 (101)
                  Best Score = do i smile? 3-0-0-3 (100)

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                  • Vanilla Mnm
                    cavs
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3258

                    #129
                    Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                    Originally posted by Elite Ninja
                    False. I wasnt involved in the community at all when I joined like 3 years ago but I was a token lover ever since I first joined. I dont even know how I got involved in the community. First thread I ever posted in was a tournament hosted by Izzy and I got my first AAA on Sonic 1 Final Zone or something. A My friends and my brother also go for them but they are not as good.
                    I'm guessing you played a lot though? Or you were at least active, which is what I was saying. I could just about guarantee 95-98% of this site isn't active whatsoever. and about 90% of it never was.

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                    • qqwref
                      stepmania archaeologist
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 4092

                      #130
                      Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                      Originally posted by foxfire667
                      Would be REALLY sexy if somehow it was set up so that you HAD to play the songs immediately after eachother...like it loaded those levels one after another and just skipped the stats screens.
                      This would be really cool. I don't know how it could work, but I'd love to have it in place for certain tokens.

                      I had an idea (hope I didn't post this yet) that would prevent cheating on "do this, then this, etc" type requirements. Basically, whenever you start a song, the engine would tell the site. If you finish the song the replay would look normal, but if you don't finish (you hit refresh, for instance) you'll get a replay that presses nothing and fails when it gets 10 misses. So this way, once you start one of the later songs, you have to go through with it, because refreshing will make the game treat that gameplay as a miss out.
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                      • Elite Ninja
                        Kawaii Desu
                        Event Staff
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 4828

                        #131
                        Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                        Originally posted by Vanilla Mnm
                        I'm guessing you played a lot though? Or you were at least active, which is what I was saying. I could just about guarantee 95-98% of this site isn't active whatsoever. and about 90% of it never was.

                        If anything atleast have some for both categories though. Dont make them all really hard to get. You need to include everyone.
                        Best AAA = Aballava(?) + Serious Shit (97)
                        Best SDG = Fushigi Usagi Milk Tei 8-0-0-3 (101)
                        Best Score = do i smile? 3-0-0-3 (100)

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                        • Vanilla Mnm
                          cavs
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3258

                          #132
                          Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                          Originally posted by Elite Ninja
                          If anything atleast have some for both categories though. Dont make them all really hard to get. You need to include everyone.
                          Well, yeah, I know. All I'm saying is, nobody should be so worried about whether or not only 100 people could get it. If there's a creative idea, just use it. Don't worry about it.

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                          • master q60
                            Aka Shinboro
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 895

                            #133
                            Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                            Originally posted by qqwref
                            This would be really cool. I don't know how it could work, but I'd love to have it in place for certain tokens.

                            I had an idea (hope I didn't post this yet) that would prevent cheating on "do this, then this, etc" type requirements. Basically, whenever you start a song, the engine would tell the site. If you finish the song the replay would look normal, but if you don't finish (you hit refresh, for instance) you'll get a replay that presses nothing and fails when it gets 10 misses. So this way, once you start one of the later songs, you have to go through with it, because refreshing will make the game treat that gameplay as a miss out.
                            This Is how many people got melonmans op and the one with the Ronda alla torca

                            EDIT with how many new people can't aaa excite bike, that should be a skill token requirement
                            Last edited by master q60; 12-22-2010, 09:33 PM.
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                            • nois-or-e
                              SponCon Aficionado
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 3250

                              #134
                              Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                              Originally posted by iironiic
                              HUR HUR HUR AAA 300 300 times for 3020 v3020
                              I asked LD in prochat a while ago about adding a stat for amount of times aaa'd

                              Was told it is a stat that they don't keep a track of :/

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                              • qqwref
                                stepmania archaeologist
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 4092

                                #135
                                Re: Skill Token Suggestion

                                Originally posted by nois-or-e
                                I asked LD in prochat a while ago about adding a stat for amount of times aaa'd

                                Was told it is a stat that they don't keep a track of :/
                                Guess you'd just have to AAA 300 300 times in a row then
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